Tenders, RFA's, and Benjamins: The 2016 Free Agency Thread

koufax32

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Dwayne Allen back to IND in a roflcopter

Osemele to Raiders

Malik Jackson to Jacksonville

Tamba Hali staying in KC



Time to plug in the Soxhop and Singer bots.
 
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E5 Yaz

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So, you want a new thread to discuss what's being discussed elsewhere?
 

koufax32

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The one labeled pre-FA? I assume that would give way to a new FA thread. Since deals are leaking here ya go.
Mods, if we're multipurposing off season threads please shut this one down.
 

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I hope Denver's enjoying this SB victory because Oakland and Kansas City are no joke. Combined with Denver's FA losses, the AFC West may be in serious transition.
 

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I hope Denver's enjoying this SB victory because Oakland and Kansas City are no joke. Combined with Denver's FA losses, the AFC West may be in serious transition.
Kansas City outplayed Denver for 7 of the 8 quarters they played last year and Oakland won in Denver. Still a lot of moves to be made, clearly, but Denver probably won't be the favorite come September.
 

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Wow, the Raiders swooped in and are signing Bruce Irvin.
He was the defensive player I wanted the most, though I am not sure I am going to like the price, since they had to outbid the Jags.

This probably means they chose to overpay Irvin now rather than wait and pay for Aldon Smith. With no Justin Tuck around to keep Aldon in line, this is the better path. A 3rd down pass rush of Khalil Mack, Denico Autry, Mario Edwards Jr and Irvin sounds quite nice.
 

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He was the defensive player I wanted the most, though I am not sure I am going to like the price, since they had to outbid the Jags.

This probably means they chose to overpay Irvin now rather than wait and pay for Aldon Smith. With no Justin Tuck around to keep Aldon in line, this is the better path. A 3rd down pass rush of Khalil Mack, Denico Autry, Mario Edwards Jr and Irvin sounds quite nice.
don't the Raiders still have Richard Seymour?
 

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He was the defensive player I wanted the most, though I am not sure I am going to like the price, since they had to outbid the Jags.

This probably means they chose to overpay Irvin now rather than wait and pay for Aldon Smith. With no Justin Tuck around to keep Aldon in line, this is the better path. A 3rd down pass rush of Khalil Mack, Denico Autry, Mario Edwards Jr and Irvin sounds quite nice.
Would have been really nice for Jacksonville to grab him up. It's just been assumed they would get Jackson, Irvin, and Vernon. Maybe they move on to Trevathan now?
 

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It is interesting how three of the four teams with the most cap room and need - Oakland, Jacksonville and Chicago, all have coaching staffs that have significant Denver or Seattle roots and many of the quality FAs out there come from either Denver or Seattle. As a Raider fan, I am pretty confident that what ever stopping point they had in the Malik Jackson bidding was well informed by Del Rio's opinion. Conversely, I hope that Ken Norton Jr knows something Gus Bradley doesn't about Irvin.

To that point, I think Trevathian is very likely to wind up in Chicago with John Fox.
 

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It is interesting how three of the four teams with the most cap room and need - Oakland, Jacksonville and Chicago, all have coaching staffs that have significant Denver or Seattle roots and many of the quality FAs out there come from either Denver or Seattle. As a Raider fan, I am pretty confident that what ever stopping point they had in the Malik Jackson bidding was well informed by Del Rio's opinion. Conversely, I hope that Ken Norton Jr knows something Gus Bradley doesn't about Irvin.

To that point, I think Trevathian is very likely to wind up in Chicago with John Fox.
This seems to reinforce your thought:

 

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Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 1m1 minute ago
The #Dolphins deal with pass-rusher Mario Williams should come today, sources says, and it's expected to land him $8M per year.
Houston drafted him so he had no choice there but then he chose buffalo for a ton of money and now Miami. I know the game it torture on their bodies and blah blah blah. But you'd think at some point a guy who had already made significant coin would at least factor the chance to actually win games into his decision? I totally get it for guys that have one and only one chance to cash in, but Mario Williams is not that guy.
 

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It is interesting how three of the four teams with the most cap room and need - Oakland, Jacksonville and Chicago, all have coaching staffs that have significant Denver or Seattle roots and many of the quality FAs out there come from either Denver or Seattle. As a Raider fan, I am pretty confident that what ever stopping point they had in the Malik Jackson bidding was well informed by Del Rio's opinion. Conversely, I hope that Ken Norton Jr knows something Gus Bradley doesn't about Irvin.

To that point, I think Trevathian is very likely to wind up in Chicago with John Fox.
I wonder if what the Jaguars and Raiders did represents a new method of team building. In the early years, spend minimally on free agents, and build through the draft so that you have talented but cheap players, hire a coaching staff to develop those players, hit on a starting QB, but maintain the frugal approach to team building, carrying excess cap space forward each year, and then in about the fourth year, use the built up cap space to extend your in house players early to extend the savings, and go all in on free agency to address holes in your roster.

Some of that requires hitting on a young QB but it also requires discipline to stay away from free agents during the acquisition stage, as spending on free agents too early improves your team in the short term, and this both lowers your chances of getting a high draft pick while also preventing you from carrying salary cap space forward into future years.
 

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The Steelers have resigned Ramon Foster (3 years $ unknown) and William Gay (3years rumored $7.5 total) in the last two days. Rumor is there is potential for a 1 year deal for Beachum. We'll see.
 

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Did TJ Yeldon die? I know you need more than 1 guy back there, but that seems like a place they could have spent a bit less money.
One of their favorite plays last year was to run Toby Gerhart at the goal line instead of Yeldon, even though he was predictably stuffed all the time. Makes me wonder if they don't love Yeldon, or maybe they love him but aren't in love with him.

Either way, the reported apparent $6 mil price tag strikes me as unequivocally insane.