Taylor Hall back in Boston: 4 years, $6 million AAV

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Between this and getting to see video of Chris Sale pitching in AA this morning, my dad's birthday is off to a great start.
 

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Awesome signing. Now let’s lose Krejci, trade Debrusk, and sign another superstar.
 

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They don't really have the cap space for a huge signing. Dougie and Landeskog will be like $9 million AAV.
 

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They don't really have the cap space for a huge signing. Dougie and Landeskog will be like $9 million AAV.
Debateable.

All depends on what Rask and Krejci decide to do. As it stands right now they have just over 19mil in cap space. They're going to lose someone today - if it's Lauzon or Cliffton that puts them over 20 mil in cap space.

They'll need to sign at least one dman, a goalie (if Rask isn't back - a cheap veteran to spell Swayman), and a center to replace Krejci (if he decides to leave).

Krejci may accept a discount though. If he accepts what Hall got - that leaves 14 million for a goalie and a dman. That's some room for a bigger contract.
 

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Debateable.

All depends on what Rask and Krejci decide to do. As it stands right now they have just over 19mil in cap space. They're going to lose someone today - if it's Lauzon or Cliffton that puts them over 20 mil in cap space.

They'll need to sign at least one dman, a goalie (if Rask isn't back - a cheap veteran to spell Swayman), and a center to replace Krejci (if he decides to leave).

Krejci may accept a discount though. If he accepts what Hall got - that leaves 14 million for a goalie and a dman. That's some room for a bigger contract.
The problem is, they'll basically be running the same team out there again next year without any real improvement. I'm not sold on the current roster being a contender and there's limited help coming from the prospect pool.

There really aren't many other options, but Sweeney has tied his own hands.
 

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The problem is, they'll basically be running the same team out there again next year without any real improvement. I'm not sold on the current roster being a contender and there's limited help coming from the prospect pool.

There really aren't many other options, but Sweeney has tied his own hands.
Not if they use that money to sign a good D and pray for health?

A healthy Coyle, a healthy Carlo, or Grzelyck, a goalie not playing on a fucked up hip (Rask or Swayman)....I mean, last years team was devestated with injuries come playoff time.
 

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Stoked to have Hall back and makes me think Krejci has to be coming back as well. I still think there’s more turnover needed in the bottom 2 lines and on D, but this is a place where I wanted continuity.
 

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Pretty sure this has been in the can a while, and they just needed to wait until after the expansion draft to avoid having to protect him. Very good news, and great value. I am very happy with it.
 

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Not if they use that money to sign a good D and pray for health?

A healthy Coyle, a healthy Carlo, or Grzelyck, a goalie not playing on a fucked up hip (Rask or Swayman)....I mean, last years team was devestated with injuries come playoff time.
"pray for health" yep, basically nailed last years team.
 

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The problem is, they'll basically be running the same team out there again next year without any real improvement. I'm not sold on the current roster being a contender and there's limited help coming from the prospect pool.

There really aren't many other options, but Sweeney has tied his own hands.
I mean they were basically the best team in the NHL after the Hall trade in the regular season until injuries bit them vs. the NYI which everyone expected them to beat handily. The problem is injuries bite them almost every playoffs. Is it fluky or something that can be fixed is the question. Also Studnicka could be an X factor next season if he has indeed put on the strength needed to compete at the NHL level. He was an elite defensive forward in juniors and has plenty of speed to be an impact bottom 6 forward.
 

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Crazy to think if he stays with the B’s for the entire contract he’ll have a longer Bruins tenure than Seguin. Imagine if someone told you Hall would have a longer career with the Bruins than Seguin about 10 years ago.
 

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Crazy to think if he stays with the B’s for the entire contract he’ll have a longer Bruins tenure than Seguin. Imagine if someone told you Hall would have a longer career with the Bruins than Seguin about 10 years ago.
My expensive replica Seguin jersey that languishes in my closet weeps.
 

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Does the signing bonus count towards the cap?
Yes. There is almost no difference in how salary and signing bonuses are handled cap wise, with 2 notable exceptions:

1.) The full bonus is still paid even if the player's contract is bought out. Which means if a team signs a player with a small salary but large signing bonus, they do not get much cap relief if they were to buy out the player's contract.

2.) The signing bonus is paid even if there is a work stoppage due to a lockout. Salary is not paid.

Neither really applies here. If they were to trade Hall in 2024-25 season, the contract would be slightly more attractive to the receiving team. But there is supposedly some NTC clauses in the contract, so unclear how much it will matter. But accountants got to accountant.
 

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Yes. There is almost no difference in how salary and signing bonuses are handled cap wise, with 2 notable exceptions:

1.) The full bonus is still paid even if the player's contract is bought out. Which means if a team signs a player with a small salary but large signing bonus, they do not get much cap relief if they were to buy out the player's contract.

2.) The signing bonus is paid even if there is a work stoppage due to a lockout. Salary is not paid.

Neither really applies here. If they were to trade Hall in 2024-25 season, the contract would be slightly more attractive to the receiving team. But there is supposedly some NTC clauses in the contract, so unclear how much it will matter. But accountants got to accountant.
Gotcha, thanks.

I assume the contract is a little lighter on the last year in case they want to move him.

Anything else useful about the extra cap this year and in year 4? Does it align with any other key free agents we need to keep?
 

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Gotcha, thanks.

I assume the contract is a little lighter on the last year in case they want to move him.

Anything else useful about the extra cap this year and in year 4? Does it align with any other key free agents we need to keep?
There's no real extra cap room, as the cap is calculated by taking the total value of the contract ($24M) divided by the years (4), or $6M/yr in this case. The cap hit is the same for each of the 4 years.

The lower salary in 2021-22 can be beneficial to Hall, as the league does hold back some of the salary for escrow, of which only a fraction is usually paid back to the players. The escrow holdback is predicted to be around 18% in 2021-22, then going down to 10%, and then 6%. Subject to change, but as escrow is calculated based on that season's salary, there is benefit to Hall to defer some salary to later years. The Bruins benefit by allowing them to manage the cash flow a bit, given the revenue uncertainty in the upcoming season.

The lower salary in the final year does make a trade somewhat easier, as the receiving team would have less cash to pay out.
 

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There's no real extra cap room, as the cap is calculated by taking the total value of the contract ($24M) divided by the years (4), or $6M/yr in this case. The cap hit is the same for each of the 4 years.

The lower salary in 2021-22 can be beneficial to Hall, as the league does hold back some of the salary for escrow, of which only a fraction is usually paid back to the players. The escrow holdback is predicted to be around 18% in 2021-22, then going down to 10%, and then 6%. Subject to change, but as escrow is calculated based on that season's salary, there is benefit to Hall to defer some salary to later years. The Bruins benefit by allowing them to manage the cash flow a bit, given the revenue uncertainty in the upcoming season.

The lower salary in the final year does make a trade somewhat easier, as the receiving team would have less cash to pay out.
Awesome. I remember about the average salary per year, now that you said it. Thabks!
 

Kenny F'ing Powers

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There's no real extra cap room, as the cap is calculated by taking the total value of the contract ($24M) divided by the years (4), or $6M/yr in this case. The cap hit is the same for each of the 4 years.

The lower salary in 2021-22 can be beneficial to Hall, as the league does hold back some of the salary for escrow, of which only a fraction is usually paid back to the players. The escrow holdback is predicted to be around 18% in 2021-22, then going down to 10%, and then 6%. Subject to change, but as escrow is calculated based on that season's salary, there is benefit to Hall to defer some salary to later years. The Bruins benefit by allowing them to manage the cash flow a bit, given the revenue uncertainty in the upcoming season.

The lower salary in the final year does make a trade somewhat easier, as the receiving team would have less cash to pay out.
Awesome. I remember about the average salary per year, now that you said it. Thanks!