Super Bowl XLVIII Seahawks vs Broncos
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Since there's two weeks before the SB, which usually means the media often has to find random things to write about, I predict some nonsense articles playing up the Colorado vs Washington drug-legalization angle.
I have a feeling it's going to be more: Peyton Manning, Peyton manning, Peyton Manning, and then Peyton Manning86spike said:
I was thinking more Warner vs Brady, which this matchup reminds me a lot of. The type of gameplan the Pats executed that day is what Seattle will have to do to have a chance in this game. Put pressure on Manning, create turnovers and points on defense, play mistake free on offense.
I don't think Denver is putting up 30 points on this defense. If Wilson can get anything going I think Seattle wins relatively easily. Harvin would be an absolutely huge game changed if he's active.
Will be interesting to see if the Hawks deviate from ET playing a single deep safety and have him closer to THE LOS in order to help neutralize Julius Thomas. Seahawks are one of the few teams with enough secondary depth (and skill) to not be burned by the Broncos' receivers.
Not to be cliche, but turnovers will be key. High turnover game favors Seattle, low turnover game favors Denver IMHO. I don't see Knighton repeating his performance against Beast Mode though. Tough one to predict.
Bad weather also favors Seattle IMHO.
Not to be cliche, but turnovers will be key. High turnover game favors Seattle, low turnover game favors Denver IMHO. I don't see Knighton repeating his performance against Beast Mode though. Tough one to predict.
Bad weather also favors Seattle IMHO.
Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
I always thought it was Rex Grossman vs Peyton Manning.
86spike said:
It's already pretty clear that the narrative is "Peyton Manning represents the old-school pocket passing QBs, while Russell Wilson represents the QB of the new NFL."
SemperFidelisSox said:
Joe Theismann vs David Woodley (Super Bowl 17) and Terry Bradshaw vs Vince Ferragamo (Super Bowl 14) were pretty lopsided as well.
Mystic Merlin said:
Agreed. Seattle will be extremely physical with the Denver's receivers. They have shutdown players in the secondary and guys that can make big plays and the DLine can get to Manning.
The narrative will be:Eli won in Peyton's place, can Peyton win in Eli's.
I hope the weather and Seattle wins.
I hope the weather and Seattle wins.
Dan to Theo to Ben said:
They'll stick with Cancellor and/or KJ Wright on their TEs. They've faced Davis 3x, Graham 2x and Tony Gonzalez. They know how to handle top TEs. The big matchup is going to be Thurmond on Welker or Decker.
Mystic Merlin said:
True, but Seattle hasn't faced an offense remotely as good as Denvers. Denver manhandled the Patriots today on both sides of the ball, pressured Brady on defense, Manning wasn't touched on offense and he torched them.
Goes without saying that unless Seattle can put pressure on Manning and also force some turnovers, I don't see Russell Wilson and the Seattle offense being able to keep pace with Denvers.
Either it's Manning/Welker or Carroll/Sherman who end up with a ring, which is a huge shit sandwich no matter what the final outcome is.
And as far as the poll, the "I could give shit less" option was left out of both questions.
54thMA said:
Granted it was preseason, but the Seahawks hosted the Broncos in the 2nd preseason week. Both teams played starters for the entire first half and it was Seattle up 33-7 at half on the way to a 40-10 win. It'll be interesting to see if there's anything to be learned from both teams in that game.
Let's remember that Denver won't be playing in 60 degree weather in NY in 2 weeks. The weather is likely not going to be a Denver ally.
I want Peyton to have to play in just one bad weather game this year. Dude looks like he can't throw it further than 30 yards in the air when it's 50 degrees.
I'm rooting against Denver for the obvious reasons, but man, Seattle (especially you, Mr. Sherman) are going out of there way to be as dislikeable as possible. Seattle has great fans and they deserve a championship, but man there team, outside of Russell Wilson, seems to embrace being hated.
It's not so much the possible cold as the possible wind and/or snow and sleet that will affect Manning. If it's a crappy weather game, I like Seattle. If it's nice, I think it can go either way. Seattle will be more physical with the Denver receivers than anyone has been, and the rub routes that Denver runs on almost every play won't be as effective against Seattle's D.
The key is Wilson. I don't know what to expect from him. He doesn't have to be perfect, just good to give Seattle a chance. But it is quite possible he makes the kind of mistakes that hand the game to Manning and Denver.
The key is Wilson. I don't know what to expect from him. He doesn't have to be perfect, just good to give Seattle a chance. But it is quite possible he makes the kind of mistakes that hand the game to Manning and Denver.
Peyton Manning in his prime once defeated Rex Grossman in a Super Bowl, so to say this is a bigger mismatch is quite a claim to make.
Mark Rypien and Jeff Hostetler also defeated hall-of-famer Jim Kelly.
Mark Rypien and Jeff Hostetler also defeated hall-of-famer Jim Kelly.
Are we talking about October Russell Wilson or Russell Wilson right now? Dude has struggled big time the past few weeks in pretty much all phases. 3rd down conversion rate is u-g-l-y, he has been sacked seven times in two playoff games, and his longest run is 8 yards.
And why is Wilson so immune to potentially bad weather, but it would be Mannings undoing? An accurate pocket passer like Manning is exactly what you want in bad conditions. Wilson is struggling to even make basic throws right now.
And why is Wilson so immune to potentially bad weather, but it would be Mannings undoing? An accurate pocket passer like Manning is exactly what you want in bad conditions. Wilson is struggling to even make basic throws right now.
I'm somewhat underwhelmed by the "quarterback mismatch" narrative. Putting aside that a lot more than Brady cost us our game; Peyton had great weather, homefield advantage, and was facing the Legion of Wounded defense. Yet he put up 26 points, not 50. He was beatable today, he's beatable in the less-than-deal conditions he'll face in the Weed Bowl.
Think Talib will send flowers?Judge Mental13 said:
I'm somewhat underwhelmed by the "quarterback mismatch" narrative. Putting aside that a lot more than Brady cost us our game; Peyton had great weather, homefield advantage, and was facing the Legion of Wounded defense. Yet he put up 26 points, not 50. He was beatable today, he's beatable in the less-than-deal conditions he'll face in the Weed Bowl.
Think Talib will send flowers?
The Broncos scored 26 points on just 7 possessions where they were trying to score. That's very efficient. The final score of yesterday's game, like the 2011 Super Bowl, overrates the defenses and underrates the offenses because there were so few possessions.
Think Talib will send flowers?
The Broncos scored 26 points on just 7 possessions where they were trying to score. That's very efficient. The final score of yesterday's game, like the 2011 Super Bowl, overrates the defenses and underrates the offenses because there were so few possessions.
If he hadnt dropped a routine pass he'd have a ring already. And he injured Talib on a dirty hit yesterday. He can fuck right off.Stitch01 said:
Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
BB makes it pretty clear where he stands.
@MikeReiss 1m
Bill Belichick calls hit on Talib a deliberate hit by receiver. "One of the worst plays I've seen."
Hmmm, it's possible Welker did some improvisation himself.drleather2001 said:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/broncos/2014/01/19/wes-welker-patriots-super-bowl/4654123/
"I spent all day Saturday putting stuff together," he said, "watching a little film and different things like that, on how I think the game needed to be played."
I have zero problem with that hit other than it should have been offensive PI. Will still be very happy for Welker if he gets a ring. I hope he performs well in the Super Bowl. Pats have had way too much success for me to be bitter about good players going elsewhere and succeeding.DrewDawg said:
Wilson has certainly had his fair share of struggles recently, but it seems like he always comes up with a big play when they need it. I think Beast Mode and that defense are enough to make up for the talent difference between the two QBs. Plus Harvin will probably be back, which should help out Wilson.
Peyton sure as hell won't have a clean pocket or uniform during the Super Bowl. Seattle has a vicious D, and Sherman can take D. Thomas all by himself and make him disappear. He is a dickhead but he is an awesome corner.
Russell Wilson is a dynamic player, don't get all the Grossman/Delhomme comparisons. Get ready for large doses of the Manning face as they pick him off 3 times.
Russell Wilson is a dynamic player, don't get all the Grossman/Delhomme comparisons. Get ready for large doses of the Manning face as they pick him off 3 times.
SBs tend to be low-flag affairs, but not only is Seattle going to be well-versed in Denver's pick-plays, thanks to BB so will everyone else.
Seattle has a lot more ways to win this game than the Broncos do. DEN has to hope for little wind and their receivers winning battles off the LOS, which is easier said than done since DEN hasn't faced a secondary like this all year.
If SEA can disrupt the timing even a little bit, Manning is going to have pressure in his face all day, and he doesn't fare well in a messy pocket.
I think Lynch has a huge day and the game is SEA's to lose.
If SEA can disrupt the timing even a little bit, Manning is going to have pressure in his face all day, and he doesn't fare well in a messy pocket.
I think Lynch has a huge day and the game is SEA's to lose.
One thing Denver has going for them is unbelievable depth of receivers. Manning can easily just ignore Sherman's area of the field and still have 3-5 other potential targets on the field who are all good at getting open and getting YAC. As we saw with the 07 and 11 Pats teams, the only way you can really stop a team with that many receiving threats is to kick the hell out of them at the LOS and consistently get to the QB with a 4 man rush.
People will try to make this story of Peyton's magical season, but the real story of this season was the emergence of the NFC West was far and away the best division in football. The worst team in the Seahawks' division went 6-4 outside the NFC West and destroyed two playoff teams in the second part of the season. Unless the Seahawks get a worse whistle than they got the last time they made the Super Bowl, they are going to shatter the Broncos. Even if both teams play as well as they're capable of playing, I still see this having the makings of one of those 80's era NFC blowouts in which the high-scoring AFC team can't handle the physicality of the NFC power. This game is going to be a "Remember the 80's" flashback for John Elway, with Peyton "starring" in a role he once made famous--the overmatched QB of a team being dismantled by a superior opponent. I hope the Broncos all bring thick coats and thicker skins because it is going to be a long, cold four plus hours for them on Super Bowl Sunday.
Remagellan said:
I believe the Broncos had the easiest schedule in terms of opponents strength this year, and for a first-place schedule in a division that sent three teams to the playoffs, it is kind of amazing how easy their schedule was.