Super Bowl LVI: Bengals vs Rams

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Yes, you're right, I wasn't serious. But I don't think Broods was, either. Just wondering whether they'll beat the turnout for the town hockey team.
It’s legitimate question. You’d expect them to given NFL’s popularity vs NHL but the Kings have more hardcore fans so could go either way.
 

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Apparently, although a Liverpudlian, Ringo is not a supporter of either of the Merseyside sides, but is surprisingly a Gooner.

Maybe he's in the same social orbit as Stan Kroenke -- I guess Arsenal and the Rams are sort of sibling clubs in that sense. So not surprised he's a Rams fan. Or maybe it's just the L.A. thing.
 

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Bengals seem like a good candidate to take the Super Bowl loser 'step back' next season. Thank you for eliminating the Chiefs.
Agree completely.

2nd and 1 from the 49 with 54 seconds left, two time outs and a kicker who is good from what, 55 yards?

Inexcusable, a pass to nowhere down the sideline, a running play giving the ball to the wrong guy, then in the shotgun on 4th and 1.

Had they won the SB, now as a Patriots fan, you've got to contend with the Bills in your own division, the Chiefs and now the new luck Bengals, finally getting that 900 pound gorilla off their back.

Instead; Bengals gonna Bengal.

It's got to be an Ohio thing.
 

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They have a bona fide QB and the best young WR in the game, but I can't help but feel that we won't see the Bengals in another SB in a long time, either.
 

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I once heard Ringo on Sirius XM talking about the making one of his more recent albums. He said he had a guest house that he had turned into a recording studio so as to avoid having it available for guests. He was putting together a song and decided it needed a guitar solo “so I called up my brother-in-law and asked him to throw something in there”

In other words - however you score it - Ringo has won life.
 

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They have a bona fide QB and the best young WR in the game, but I can't help but feel that we won't see the Bengals in another SB in a long time, either.
A ton of things broke right for them this year - they played a last place schedule (even though they went 1-2 in those games), were among the healthiest teams in the league and got to play a WC team that wasn't very good and then a weak 1-seed. However, they've got a ton of money to throw at their biggest problem, they're willing to spend it as they rebuilt the defense the last two years mostly through FA and a draft that appears to be very deep there. I think they're clearly behind the Bills and Chiefs (despite beating them twice) but if they can fix the OL, I think that combined with the natural progression of a young team can offset a lot of the other stuff. Of course, the list of SB losers following it up the last 20 years is not particularly promising.
 
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There were significantly less fireworks going off in my neighborhood than when the Dodgers and Lakers recently won.
Same in my neck of the woods. We did go on the porch to check out fireworks and saw a bunch...but they looked like an official display at a big watch-party location. Maybe the State Historic Park?

Beyond that, mostly just whoops and hollers, but not a lot of flash-bang. That said...

In a city with a metro population of 13M, I'll be interested to see how many attend the parade. Any guesses?

Looks like the Kings had 300K attend their 2014 parade. Who takes the over for the Rams? https://www.dailynews.com/2014/06/16/tens-of-thousands-cheer-on-la-kings-crowned-royalty-of-ice/
...I did see chatter on Reddit and Twitter that people were excited to go to the parade to celebrate the Dodgers and Lakers trophies as well as the Rams victory, since there weren't parades for the former two. So maybe the numbers will be higher than expected. There's enough concern that my department's offices are closing for the day, since traffic around USC will be a nightmare.
 

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Now that it is a couple days out, it dawns on me that this is likely to be an especially forgettable Super Bowl. Maybe if one of these two teams were to start a five year run of real dominance it would be memorable in that narrative, but otherwise this was sort of a 'meh' game for the biggest stage.
 

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I think it was a “meh” Super Bowl for Pats fans because we had zero investment in it whatsoever. No rivals, no Pats, no Brady - when was the last time we had that? I was cheering for the Bengals but not sad when they lost. We must remember, however, that most people felt the same way when the Pats beat the Rams a few years ago, and I thought the defensive struggle was immensely nerve wracking.

Kyle Brandt just dropped an F bomb on live tv on Good Morning, Football. His reaction was more entertaining than the game.
 

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There wasn’t a missed XP, do you mean the failed 2 point conversion?

(I was in a prop bet pool, and we had to get the official ruling on this)
I was referring to the play where the Rams were lined up for an extra point, the ball was snapped to the holder, who subsequently dropped the ball, so that the kicker, who was lined up to kick the extra point, could not in fact, kick the extra point.
 

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I once heard Ringo on Sirius XM talking about the making one of his more recent albums. He said he had a guest house that he had turned into a recording studio so as to avoid having it available for guests. He was putting together a song and decided it needed a guitar solo “so I called up my brother-in-law and asked him to throw something in there”

In other words - however you score it - Ringo has won life.
He's a vegetarian and a health-and-exercise fanatic. He looks better than many 50 year olds (checks mirror, ducks)
 

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I was referring to the play where the Rams were lined up for an extra point, the ball was snapped to the holder, who subsequently dropped the ball, so that the kicker, who was lined up to kick the extra point, could not in fact, kick the extra point.
Ahh, I can see where the confusion started now.

what you witnessed was a classic dummy XP, so clandestine that even the kicker wasn’t in on it. The history of success of this has come from its complete misdirection, and it only failed as the right side of the line got blown up.
 

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I think it was a “meh” Super Bowl for Pats fans because we had zero investment in it whatsoever. No rivals, no Pats, no Brady - when was the last time we had that? I was cheering for the Bengals but not sad when they lost. We must remember, however, that most people felt the same way when the Pats beat the Rams a few years ago, and I thought the defensive struggle was immensely nerve wracking.
I think this is accurate. If I had to compare it to a previous Pats Super Bowl I'd probably go with 39 against the Eagles. It was a 3 point game so it was close, but it wasn't particularly compelling.

Part of this is due to the Pats not playing or there not being a villain, but part of this is also due to there being a lot of really good to great Super Bowls over the past 20 ish years. We got so accustomed to blowouts for a long period of time that any close Super Bowl was deemed good for a while (like Denver-GB, or Rams-Titans). Now that we've had some of these epic recent Super Bowls, just playing a close game doesn't necessarily make it a good or great Super Bowl.

We've had 56 of them at this point. This one wouldn't rank in the bottom 10 or 20, but it also wouldn't rank in the top 10 or 20. Probably somewhere in the 25-35 range?
 

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He's a vegetarian and a health-and-exercise fanatic. He looks better than many 50 year olds (checks mirror, ducks)
Kind of crazy how well he's done considering all his health problems as a child, which also led to some serious issues back in his fifties IIRC.
 

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I think this is accurate. If I had to compare it to a previous Pats Super Bowl I'd probably go with 39 against the Eagles. It was a 3 point game so it was close, but it wasn't particularly compelling.
The thing about this Rams/Bengals Super Bowl is that there was a lead change with less than 2 minutes left, which no matter what else happens in the Super Bowl to me elevates the game. The '04 Pats/Eagles SB didn't have a 4th quarter lead change, and the Pats were up by 2 scores for most of it. Actually, in terms of a Pats Super Bowl, the closest comparison might be (shudder) 2011 vs. the Giants, where the Pats led for most of the 2nd half and missed a chance to put the game away, then the Giants put together a methodical 4th quarter scoring drive with some weirdness down by the goal line (Bradshaw falling into the end zone).

Another similar SB to me was the Bengals/49ers Super Bowl in '88, Montana's "Isn't that John Candy?" moment where he led a methodical scoring drive to win what to that point was a relatively low scoring, not massively memorable Super Bowl (tied 3-3 at halftime).

Sorry for the loss. No way to sugarcoat it, that was a nut punch L and I really thought Cincy would pull away after the 2nd Stafford INT. I really hope the owners go all in on this team. Burrow and Chase are cheap for a few more years and this is the real window.

On the bright side, you have such a fun young core so you’ll be getting to watch exciting football for years to come.

It’s tough to forecast getting back to the SB. We know how that goes, especially with prime Allen and Mahomes in the way, but there should be a long stretch of playoff contention for this team. And now a young team and coach got a taste of what it takes, which definitely does matter.
Agree with all of this, as well as sympathizing with @Rudy's Curve. The pain of 1996, 2007, 2011, 2017 never really go away, but I tried to consider it the cost of rooting for one of the top teams and QBs: higher highs and lower lows. Even after losing to the Favre Packers in '96 I was just so amazed that the lowly Patriots had one of the end zones painted with their logos in the Super Bowl.

I know it's cold comfort now, but as BSF says Burrow and the Bengals appear as well positioned as anyone in the next few seasons to get back to the Super Bowl, while the Rams went all in for 2021 and face some veteran departures, draft pick losses, and salary cap issues.
 

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I was referring to the play where the Rams were lined up for an extra point, the ball was snapped to the holder, who subsequently dropped the ball, so that the kicker, who was lined up to kick the extra point, could not in fact, kick the extra point.
Other tongue-in-cheek responses notwithstanding, wilked's point was that officially that was not a missed XP. So if your square somehow caused a missed XP there to cost you $600, and you paid out, then you should go get the stats in hand and get your money back.

(But I'm guessing maybe you actually lost the money because no XP was made in that situation, not because one was missed?)
 

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The thing about this Rams/Bengals Super Bowl is that there was a lead change with less than 2 minutes left, which no matter what else happens in the Super Bowl to me elevates the game. The '04 Pats/Eagles SB didn't have a 4th quarter lead change, and the Pats were up by 2 scores for most of it. Actually, in terms of a Pats Super Bowl, the closest comparison might be (shudder) 2011 vs. the Giants, where the Pats led for most of the 2nd half and missed a chance to put the game away, then the Giants put together a methodical 4th quarter scoring drive with some weirdness down by the goal line (Bradshaw falling into the end zone).

Another similar SB to me was the Bengals/49ers Super Bowl in '88, Montana's "Isn't that John Candy?" moment where he led a methodical scoring drive to win what to that point was a relatively low scoring, not massively memorable Super Bowl (tied 3-3 at halftime).



Agree with all of this, as well as sympathizing with @Rudy's Curve. The pain of 1996, 2007, 2011, 2017 never really go away, but I tried to consider it the cost of rooting for one of the top teams and QBs: higher highs and lower lows. Even after losing to the Favre Packers in '96 I was just so amazed that the lowly Patriots had one of the end zones painted with their logos in the Super Bowl.

I know it's cold comfort now, but as BSF says Burrow and the Bengals appear as well positioned as anyone in the next few seasons to get back to the Super Bowl, while the Rams went all in for 2021 and face some veteran departures, draft pick losses, and salary cap issues.
Agree with all this.

Main difference between 2011 and this year, of course, was that America was rooting against a villain in 2011, so it was more compelling from that perspective.
 

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Other tongue-in-cheek responses notwithstanding, wilked's point was that officially that was not a missed XP. So if your square somehow caused a missed XP there to cost you $600, and you paid out, then you should go get the stats in hand and get your money back.

(But I'm guessing maybe you actually lost the money because no XP was made in that situation, not because one was missed?)
I think you're reading it wrong.

The missed XP(failed 2 point conversion) caused Bow to miss out on winning in the Super Bowl box. Either the number hits or you don't, at the end of each quarter. It wasn't a prop bet, so no matter how the play was officially classified, the fact that the kick didn't go through for that 1 point caused another box to win.
 

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Other tongue-in-cheek responses notwithstanding, wilked's point was that officially that was not a missed XP. So if your square somehow caused a missed XP there to cost you $600, and you paid out, then you should go get the stats in hand and get your money back.

(But I'm guessing maybe you actually lost the money because no XP was made in that situation, not because one was missed?)
I think you're reading it wrong.

The missed XP(failed 2 point conversion) caused Bow to miss out on winning in the Super Bowl box. Either the number hits or you don't, at the end of each quarter. It wasn't a prop bet, so no matter how the play was officially classified, the fact that the kick didn't go through for that 1 point caused another box to win.
md2020 has bingo. My square for end of 3Q was NFC-7; AFC-0. The missed point resulted in NFC-6; AFC-0
 

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Turns out I watched the game with - among others - Manny Ramirez’ son and nephew. I’m glad I didn’t know till after they left, I might’ve awkwardly gushed.
 

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Turns out I watched the game with - among others - Manny Ramirez’ son and nephew. I’m glad I didn’t know till after they left, I might’ve awkwardly gushed.
When I first read that I was mortified by our incestuous icon.

Also, Manny should be in the HOF.
 

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Now that it is a couple days out, it dawns on me that this is likely to be an especially forgettable Super Bowl. Maybe if one of these two teams were to start a five year run of real dominance it would be memorable in that narrative, but otherwise this was sort of a 'meh' game for the biggest stage.
The first half absolutely flew by in this game. The 2nd half made it an interesting watch.

The first one I watched was Cowboys-Bills Part 1. So I would rank this one somewhere in the middle among those.