Super Bowl LIII - We’re on to Los Angeles (again)

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Want to know the best part about the pats winning these last 3 Super Bowls. It has made me not even give a shit about them losing the undefeated season. Who even cares at this point? Good for Eli, maybe finish above .500 in your career at this point so we don’t feel bad for you.
 

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Refs were really inconsistent with calling holding, but the Pats really got bailed out by that holding penalty by Sullivan when the Rams were on the 43 and rolling a little. 1st and 10 turned to 1st and 20 and then a punt.
 

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Can we bring back the "Cut Gilmore" messages from early last year. I was in that group and I was wrong. Gilmore is money. Period.
I hate this stuff. we signed him for huge money and in the first few weeks he was getting torched.

He's All-Pro now, but going back almost 2 years to 'shame' posters is lame.
 

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Refs were really inconsistent with calling holding, but the Pats really got bailed out by that holding penalty by Sullivan when the Rams were on the 43 and rolling a little. 1st and 10 turned to 1st and 20 and then a punt.
I knew the Rams were in big trouble on the play before on the 3rd Down penalty when Goff walked to the sideline completely oblivious to the holding penalty on Gilmore. When do you ever see that from the QB at this level?
 

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Refs were really inconsistent with calling holding, but the Pats really got bailed out by that holding penalty by Sullivan when the Rams were on the 43 and rolling a little. 1st and 10 turned to 1st and 20 and then a punt.
After a pretty blatant hold missed on the LT on the Gilmore holding play that extended the drive. I’ll sleep fine.
 

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Refs were really inconsistent with calling holding, but the Pats really got bailed out by that holding penalty by Sullivan when the Rams were on the 43 and rolling a little. 1st and 10 turned to 1st and 20 and then a punt.
Then again they missed a textbook roughing the passer call on Donald in the first quarter on a 3rd down incompletion that could have given the Patriots a first down at the Rams 25.
 

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That statement is fact. Jmac ran 30 yards and broke that up. Need one of those " how fast was he" measurements data things
JMac starts on the 27-8 yard line when the ball was snapped, per NextGen. We'll say 27.5 for clarity. Game clock is at 3:41 at snap. Game clock stops at 3:35. He goes about 8 yards deep in the endzone. So that's 6 seconds to go 35.5 yards, or 12.1 MPH. That said, that's the bare minimum speed, because this assumes a straight, direct route to get the ball away from Cooks, which it wasn't.

I'll check if I can get more exact numbers with the distance traveled to get a more precise answer.
 

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I hate this stuff. we signed him for huge money and in the first few weeks he was getting torched.

He's All-Pro now, but going back almost 2 years to 'shame' posters is lame.
Since I implicated myself didn't mean as serious go shame anyone. We all do it. BB and SG proved us wrong (happily). Just a happy memory of SoSH. You were there bud. #6
 

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JMac starts on the 27-8 yard line when the ball was snapped, per NextGen. We'll say 27.5 for clarity. Game clock is at 3:41 at snap. Game clock stops at 3:35. He goes about 8 yards deep in the endzone. So that's 6 seconds to go 35.5 yards, or 12.1 MPH. That said, that's the bare minimum speed, because this assumes a straight, direct route to get the ball away from Cooks, which it wasn't.

I'll check if I can get more exact numbers with the distance traveled to get a more precise answer.
That is fucking awesome. Im thinking in my mind the the Dmac return 'top speed' stat from earlier. Was a huge play in the SB and speed kills
 

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Feels like Gurley got all his superpower drained from him - if he is healthy like everyone claims, has there been a worse post season performance by a RB with such a good regular season?
 

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JMac starts on the 27-8 yard line when the ball was snapped, per NextGen. We'll say 27.5 for clarity. Game clock is at 3:41 at snap. Game clock stops at 3:35. He goes about 8 yards deep in the endzone. So that's 6 seconds to go 35.5 yards, or 12.1 MPH. That said, that's the bare minimum speed, because this assumes a straight, direct route to get the ball away from Cooks, which it wasn't.

I'll check if I can get more exact numbers with the distance traveled to get a more precise answer.
I need an all-22 of this play
 

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Feels like Gurley got all his superpower drained from him - if he is healthy like everyone claims, has there been a worse post season performance by a RB with such a good regular season?
LDT? They can compare stationary bike observations, at any rate. Weird. I think his knee is medically sound but he doesn't trust it and he's lost a full step and some critical dynamism. Nobody wants to say it's all in his head, but I think it's all in his head.
 

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Can we call him Jared Gofful yet? Because holy shit was he bad.
I prefer to think that he was an inexperienced quarterback who was confused by great coaching and play by the Pats. Then I can feel like we beat a good team. Whatever, a win is a win. Kind of anxious to see how Goff plays next season. Jimmy G too.
 

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Me and OFT have been texting after this game and I'll be honest.

He's been SO vulgar and so offensive with his language. He's so happy and angry and vulgar......

I'll take it.

WHEW.
 

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What a sweet, wonderful, satisfying win. From Clive Rush to Julius Adams to Steve Grogan to the Kenneth Sims Bowl to Matt Cavanaugh to this. What a sweet satisfying VIctory.
 

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Somebody has to say something about Slater. Big reason for a couple of bad starting positions for LA in a field position game.
 

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He was great, but Allen made his job really easy on a couple of those punts.
No doubt. Those 9-iron punts were amazing. But I think that "gunner eludes double team to be alone with bouncing ball" is an underrated aspect of ST play.
 

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I have no data to back this up, but it seems as though this was Allen's best game ever. I don't recall him dropping punts on the 2 yard line that would bounce backwards but not very much. I thought that the Rams would have the advantage in the punting game, but they really didn't, even though they had lots of opportunities!
 

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For the life of me I don’t understand why the Rams ran that slow down offense.
It seems like Goff having that extra time at the line with McVay in his headset would have been far more valuable than whatever advantage they thought they were getting from hiding their formations from the Pats.
Especially since the Rams run a lot of basic personal sets to begin with.

Obviously this is a Pats forum, so if it was dumb, sure you guys don’t really care, but as a fan of neither team, that’s one of the things that’s really stuck with me after last night.
 

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The fact that everyone is saying this SuperBowl is the worst ever I feel like is a disservice to both Wade Phillips and the NE Def staff. Those are some amazing defensive minds out there. Also, everyone hates the narrative change from the pinball offense but great to see power running and defensive take center stage.
 

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Worst SB ever?

People have been spoiled by the gems the Pats usually get involved in.

This game was very compettive, really hard-hitting, and D-dominated (both sides) which led to some sloppy/tentative offensive football.

Brady recovered and did enough, JaGoff didn't. (seems he came too soon)

But just off the top of my head Seattle's gutting the Broncos just a few years ago 43-8 was near unwatchable.
 

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The fact that everyone is saying this SuperBowl is the worst ever I feel like is a disservice to both Wade Phillips and the NE Def staff. Those are some amazing defensive minds out there. Also, everyone hates the narrative change from the pinball offense but great to see power running and defensive take center stage.
People here at the office seem to unanimously think it was boring and “nothing happened” all game.

I though it was high tension throughout and pretty awesome sports but I guess there’s good reason the NFL has worked the rules to make it a QB/scoring league. I like pitchers duels more than offensive slugfests too though...