Super Bowl LIII - We’re on to Los Angeles (again)

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I know we have some issues with Hightower over the course of a season, but dude makes big plays in Super Bowls.

Context: Replay on--he just sacked Goff, leading to the long FG.
 

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I know we have some issues with Hightower over the course of a season, but dude makes big plays in Super Bowls.

Context: Replay on--he just sacked Goff, leading to the long FG.
I was just thinking the same thing, and asking myself where he falls on the top 10 list in the other thread. He's right there in the Vrabel/Bruschi category for me... so many huge championship plays.

ALSO

NFL Network is playing all six Super Bowl wins back-to-back-to-etc Saturday starting at 10 AM.
 

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I'm on my tenth rewatch of highlights and that Gronk catch down to the 2 still shocks me at how loud the stadium got. It might have been louder than the TD.
 

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Huge respect for CJ Anderson, whom you can see congratulating Brady and Edelman in the sea of cameras after the game. He also had some really great things to say in his short interview after the game.

Less so for Suh, who sprinted into the locker room as soon as Brady took the final snap, without so much as a handshake for his competition.
 

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Watching the game again in condensed form, its even more clear to me that the Rams were extremely fortunate to be in this game late in the second half.

There were at least three instances where the Rams offense almost committed a catastrophic turnover deep in their own half: The Hightower drop (which he would have taken to at least the 20-25, possible the house), the fumble that went out of bounds around the 15, and play at the beginning of the second quarter when Goff made a terrible throw that was going directly to McCourty around the 20 (who was playing a sort of robber role and clearly wasn't seen) but it got tipped at the line and broken up. Then you have the missed FG and the failed fourth down conversion in FG range. Both of those drives are producing points the vast majority of the time.

Even with Brady playing well below his usual level and the Rams defense playing extremely well, a few bounces go differently and this is a 23-3 or 19-3 game. You can't really say the opposite. The Rams left a couple plays on the table on offense but otherwise not much happened in terms of luck or special teams vagary that might have won the game for them on another night. They could have recovered the Brady fumble around midfield but gaining another 20 yards to get into FG range was a tough task for their offense all night.
 
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Watching the game again in condensed form, its even more clear to me that the Rams were extremely fortunate to be in this game late in the second half.

There were at least three instances where the Rams offense almost committed a catastrophic turnover deep in their own half: The Hightower drop (which he would have taken to at least the 20-25, possible the house), the fumble that went out of bounds around the 15, and play at the beginning of the second quarter when Goff made a terrible throw that was going directly to McCourty around the 20 (who was playing a sort of robber role and clearly wasn't seen) but it got tipped at the line and broken up. Then you have the missed FG and the failed fourth down conversion in FG range. Both of those drives are producing points the vast majority of the time.

Even with Brady playing well below his usual level and the Rams defense playing extremely well, a few bounces go differently and this is a 23-3 or 19-3 game. You can't really say the opposite. The Rams left a couple plays on the table on offense but otherwise not much happened in terms of luck or special teams vagary that might have won the game for them on another night.
It was actually very similar to the 2016 regular season game. Pats D dominated, Gost kicked a bunch of field goals, only real major difference (outside of it being the Super Bowl and these Rams being good) was that the Pats put up an early TD in that game and tacked on from there. The TD actually came on a long LGBT run on a 4th and 1 play that he busted. But pretty similar in terms of how Pats controlled the game. Only real difference was Gost missed a kick this time and the Pats offense didn't cash in early last night.
 

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It was actually very similar to the 2016 regular season game. Pats D dominated, Gost kicked a bunch of field goals, only real major difference (outside of it being the Super Bowl and these Rams being good) was that the Pats put up an early TD in that game and tacked on from there. The TD actually came on a long LGBT run on a 4th and 1 play that he busted. But pretty similar in terms of how Pats controlled the game. Only real difference was Gost missed a kick this time and the Pats offense didn't cash in early last night.
Good comparison. 99% of this game could have been the same and we'd have ended up talking about how the Patriots just coasted to a pretty easy victory. Usually in a close game both teams have some claim to thinking about what could have been with a few better bounces but its not really true in this case.
 

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Good comparison. 99% of this game could have been the same and we'd have ended up talking about how the Patriots just coasted to a pretty easy victory. Usually in a close game both teams have some claim to thinking about what could have been with a few better bounces but its not really true in this case.
Totally agree. I mean it literally could have been a carbon copy of that 26-10 win which was never in doubt starting mid-second quarter.
 

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Two unrelated points.

One, I continue to get immense pleasure from the fact that neither Kraft nor Edelman as much as even slightly acknowledged Goodell when getting handed the Lombardi or MVP trophy. Had DG not happened, both would say "Thank you Mr. Commish" or some such thing. Goodell looks flummoxed each time at the total blow off and it's just delicious. And I know that off camera Kraft is probably buddy buddy with Ole Rog. It's still hilarious to me.

Two, I don't give two shits about non-Pats fans or casual fans not being entertained last night. I was locked in the whole game and I'm sure the overwhelming majority of dedicated fans were. And lovers of good defensive football, regardless of their rooting interests. But it's doubly insane to me coming off last year's SB, when the Pats couldn't get a single bloody stop. Here it was one after the other, and as between watching Tom put up 505 with no defense and Tom have a sub par game with great D, I'll take the latter, easily. Sometimes we get lucky and get a Chargers like performancehen both sides are clicking, until garbage time at least. But it took great D to win that game and even OK D would have won last year's abortion. Making the whining about the entertainment value as foolish as it was expected.
 

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Just felt like typing it out. A pretty good run:

2002 NFL champions: Patriots
2004 NFL champions: Patriots
2004 MLB champions: Red Sox
2005 NFL champions: Patriots
2007 MLB champions: Red Sox
2008 NBA champions: Celtics
2010-11 NHL champions: Bruins
2013 MLB champions: Red Sox
2015 NFL champions: Patriots
2017 NFL champions: Patriots
2018 MLB champions: Red Sox
2019 NFL champions: Patriots
 

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In case it hasn't been mentioned, NFLN running all six Patriots wins back to back to back, etc, on Saturday
 

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Just felt like typing it out. A pretty good run:

2002 NFL champions: Patriots
2004 NFL champions: Patriots
2004 MLB champions: Red Sox
2005 NFL champions: Patriots
2007 MLB champions: Red Sox
2008 NBA champions: Celtics
2010-11 NHL champions: Bruins
2013 MLB champions: Red Sox
2015 NFL champions: Patriots
2017 NFL champions: Patriots
2018 MLB champions: Red Sox
2019 NFL champions: Patriots
For Christmas two years ago my kids gave me a framed picture of all of the SI covers for all of the Boston championships since 2001. Since I received that gift it is now out of date to the tune of two Super Bowls and one World Series. Incredible.
 

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I found out yesterday morning that I was going to get to go last night. I live in ATL and my little sister flew down from college in Richmond bright and early and we went and got to witness it in person. Memories that I will cherish for the rest of my life and it's still difficult to put into words. My whole life it's been a bucket list item to see a team of mine win a championship in person. I'm only 25 and it already happened. I know how god damn spoiled I am.

This team is incredible.

Thank you all for a fun fucking ride this season.
 

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Just felt like typing it out. A pretty good run:

2002 NFL champions: Patriots
2004 NFL champions: Patriots
2004 MLB champions: Red Sox
2005 NFL champions: Patriots
2007 MLB champions: Red Sox
2008 NBA champions: Celtics
2010-11 NHL champions: Bruins
2013 MLB champions: Red Sox
2015 NFL champions: Patriots
2017 NFL champions: Patriots
2018 MLB champions: Red Sox
2019 NFL champions: Patriots
Fucking Revolution...
 

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Did the Pats go 3 and out once? Amazing they scored as little as they did.

Edit - Twice apparently
 
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All day long at work people said congratulations and then bitched about the game being boring. I told them that last years loss to the Eagles was super exciting; which one did I prefer? That landed. And the gal from KC who I bet on the AFCCG against finally wore the teddy Johnson Jersey. So it was a good day.
 

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All day long at work people said congratulations and then bitched about the game being boring. I told them that last years loss to the Eagles was super exciting; which one did I prefer? That landed. And the gal from KC who I bet on the AFCCG against finally wore the teddy Johnson Jersey. So it was a good day.
Nice
 

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This genuinely is my favorite picture from all of the Lombardis. There is so, so much to love about what is going on here, from so many perspectives, not to mention the psychology of it all. Just can't stop looking at it.

 

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Indeed, we are all Blinded by the Lombardies. Damn it is great.
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Man, watching the replay on NFL Network and I have no idea how Sony didn't make that first down at the end of the game. Has a crease but he trips/stumbles. If he keeps his footing, it's an easy first. I was so caught up in the moment during the game that I didn't even notice how open that play was.

Should have ended the game. Thank god it didn't end up mattering.
 

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How close was that Goff hit in the end zone to intentional grounding/a safety?

Looks like the ball doesn’t get back to the LOS?? Is it because his arm is hit, they don’t make the call?
 

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But isn’t there a receiver in vicinity? I recall play but not details but I know I didn’t think it was grounding when I watched.
 

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Man, watching the replay on NFL Network and I have no idea how Sony didn't make that first down at the end of the game. Has a crease but he trips/stumbles. If he keeps his footing, it's an easy first. I was so caught up in the moment during the game that I didn't even notice how open that play was.

Should have ended the game. Thank god it didn't end up mattering.
IIRC, Develin had his right foot stretched out way behind his body as he was engaged in blocking a defender. Sony (understandably) couldn't see the foot in his peripheral vision and tripped over it.
 

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Yeah, just re-watched it... the Ram receiver was plenty close.
You can see the official point to the Rams receiver who was in the general area. The ball didn't come all that close, but it looked like his arm was hit, so I thought it was a pretty reasonable call.
 

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Just felt like typing it out. A pretty good run:

2002 NFL champions: Patriots
2004 NFL champions: Patriots
2004 MLB champions: Red Sox
2005 NFL champions: Patriots
2007 MLB champions: Red Sox
2008 NBA champions: Celtics
2010-11 NHL champions: Bruins
2013 MLB champions: Red Sox
2015 NFL champions: Patriots
2017 NFL champions: Patriots
2018 MLB champions: Red Sox
2019 NFL champions: Patriots
Boston schools have also had a damn fine run in the Beanpot!
 

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Guys I'm not going to lie, and, y'know, fucking yell at me if I'm wrong, but I've been saying this since the night of the AFCCG: I feel like this is a Pats win by or more than 8 points. The Rams without Cupp don't look great, and the Pats have looked so good since the Steelers game.

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- We got takeout pizza for the Colts/Saints Super Bowl thanks for Snowpocalypse hitting DC (same house as the place where I made the meatballs). I also ordered pizza for the AFCCG.
Edit: I also know that by kickoff I'll be thinking the Rams will win by 20.
Well, ordering pizza worked out. And my prediction wasn't wrong.
 

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How close was that Goff hit in the end zone to intentional grounding/a safety?

Looks like the ball doesn’t get back to the LOS?? Is it because his arm is hit, they don’t make the call?
He was in the pocket, so the line of scrimmage is irrelevant. The only question is whether there was a receiver in the area, and it was iffy, but I guess enough for the NFL standards.