Steven Jackson signs with Pats

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If he's been out of the league why would he randomly be subjecting himself to the NFL's drug testing policy?

And what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
We hope he took advantage of his time off?
 

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There is some precedent for being available to test while away from football if you want to come back. Wasn't someone suspended initially for not making himself available even though he was out of the NFL?

It was a guy on the Seahawks out of the CFL.
 

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There is some precedent for being available to test while away from football if you want to come back. Wasn't someone suspended initially for not making himself available even though he was out of the NFL?

It was a guy on the Seahawks out of the CFL.
wasn't this browner?

i think the issue was that he was already in the NFL drug program and missed a screening while he was out of the league. his was for pot. since jackson has had no drug issues so far, he wouldn't have been in the program after being cut.
 

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Hoo-hoo-hoo hoosier land.
If he's been out of the league why would he randomly be subjecting himself to the NFL's drug testing policy?

And what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
Unsigned free agents are still subject to random testing. Since he didn't retire, he could have been told to report for random testing. Of course he could have told them to get bent, but that may have caused him problems when and if he decided to come back. Failing to show up for a test, is, of course, a violation of the policy.
 

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1) BB has loved this guy forever, as did a lot of SoSH. I'm sure we can dig up some of the old threads where we discussed trading for him in his younger days.
2) He was known as a very versatile back in his day. Running, catching, pass blocking. Given the Oline performance over the last several games, perhaps they see him as a better choice on early downs to provide the option to either run or help with the blocking that we seem to be lacking right now. White has shown flashes, but seems to be more a pass catching back. Bolden has done well but they likely want him back on ST more (punt returner?!). I think SJax's versatility allows for a more dynamic offense on 1st and 2nd downs going forward. He may be a step or 3 slower than a few years ago, but that shouldn't necessarily affect his reads for blitz pickups and the like and will keep the defense from completely selling out on the pass.
 

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They came after Chris Borland with a pee cup, even after he'd retired. This is a must-read article for anyone that is interested in the NFL:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13463272/how-former-san-francisco-49ers-chris-borland-retirement-change-nfl-forever

ONE DAY IN April, the NFL asked Chris Borland to take a random drug test. The timing of this request was, in a word, bizarre, since Borland, a San Francisco 49ers linebacker, had retired a month earlier after a remarkable rookie season. He said he feared getting brain damage if he continued to play.
Borland, wisely, doesn't trust the NFL.
 

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I'm really surprised it doesn't happen more in baseball--Clemens kind of mastered the theory, but nobody else has followed in his footsteps.

Shaq is the guy I think of. He was playing pretty well for a while when he was a Celtic, but he just couldn't make it a full season. Maybe he should have had training camp in November and suited up for the first time in late January.
 

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Unsigned free agents are still subject to random testing. Since he didn't retire, he could have been told to report for random testing. Of course he could have told them to get bent, but that may have caused him problems when and if he decided to come back. Failing to show up for a test, is, of course, a violation of the policy.
Thanks. I appreciate the explanation
 

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I don't think of Dillon when I think about this signing, I think about Junior Seau. Particularly his 2008 season when he signed on for the last four games of the season and started twice. All the Pats need from Jackson is a similarly necessitated veteran presence.

I would be ecstatic with that kind of performance, to be honest.
 

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I don't understand the meaning of a "one-year contract" signed so late in the season. Is this standard terminology for a contract covering the remainder of the season, or is he signed into December of 2106?
 

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I don't understand the meaning of a "one-year contract" signed so late in the season. Is this standard terminology for a contract covering the remainder of the season, or is he signed into December of 2106?
It's a prorated one year contract.
 

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I don't understand the meaning of a "one-year contract" signed so late in the season. Is this standard terminology for a contract covering the remainder of the season, or is he signed into December of 2106?
He signed a contract for ONE HUNDRED YEARS!!!!
 

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Older guys sitting out 3 months and then cherry picking a situation is a model I thought would have caught on more by now.
Not that I am worried about it on this team, but showing up in Week 15/Week 16 can cause some tension in the locker room if you don't walk the line correctly and produce on the field when given the opportunity.

If you are a young player on your first contract trying to earn that second contract, how are you going to feel when a washed up guy who used to be really good comes into the building in December and takes snaps away from you?
 

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Not that I am worried about it on this team, but showing up in Week 15/Week 16 can cause some tension in the locker room if you don't walk the line correctly and produce on the field when given the opportunity.

If you are a young player on your first contract trying to earn that second contract, how are you going to feel when a washed up guy who used to be really good comes into the building in December and takes snaps away from you?
Well, probably better if that guy is named Jackson than you would be if he was named Ball
 

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If you are a young player on your first contract trying to earn that second contract, how are you going to feel when a washed up guy who used to be really good comes into the building in December and takes snaps away from you?
This post is the antithesis of every mindset on any team I've ever been on or around, so for that you should be singled out and congratulated.

Bravo.
 

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So you'll be happy with 5 ypc? High bar, no?
Well I was thinking 10 for 40 = 4.0 and 12 for 50 = 4.17, didn't think that is some crazy expectation. And I would be quite happy with 4.0 given Bolden's 3.6 and White's 2.8 on the year.

I get that Jackson is good in the passing game but IMO we need him much more on 1st and 2nd down than third
 

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One of my frustrations With Blount was in games when the run wasn't working he'd constantly be limited to those 0 or 1 yard carries when they were trying to establish the run, to help keep *some* heat off of Brady.
 

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Not that I am worried about it on this team, but showing up in Week 15/Week 16 can cause some tension in the locker room if you don't walk the line correctly and produce on the field when given the opportunity.

If you are a young player on your first contract trying to earn that second contract, how are you going to feel when a washed up guy who used to be really good comes into the building in December and takes snaps away from you?
I think your first line is the key---if someone had that approach they probably wouldn't be long for the Patriots anyway, though they'd be able to get a nice condo in Buffalo these days.
 

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This:
Older guys sitting out 3 months and then cherry picking a situation is a model I thought would have caught on more by now.
This:
I don't think of Dillon when I think about this signing, I think about Junior Seau. Particularly his 2008 season when he signed on for the last four games of the season and started twice. All the Pats need from Jackson is a similarly necessitated veteran presence.

I would be ecstatic with that kind of performance, to be honest.
But then this:
 

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One of my frustrations With Blount was in games when the run wasn't working he'd constantly be limited to those 0 or 1 yard carries when they were trying to establish the run, to help keep *some* heat off of Brady.
 

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One of my frustrations With Blount was in games when the run wasn't working he'd constantly be limited to those 0 or 1 yard carries when they were trying to establish the run, to help keep *some* heat off of Brady.
Your doppelganger got there first.

Happy holidays to all.
 

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That's a pretty awesome commercial. I love when he's going down the checkout line in slowmo.
 

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check out "Steven Jackson: The Genesis"

He comes across as a really good fit mentally for this team. He seems like a pro's pro.
 
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That's a pretty awesome commercial. I love when he's going down the checkout line in slowmo.
Hopefully, he's not stuck in slowmo!

Always loved the guy - seemed like a good dude in interviews and ran fierce on some crappy teams. Like Seau, would love to see him get a ring.

Great commercial.
 

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If he breaks off a big run, "Running backs don't stand in line," should be the refrain in the game thread.