Spurs 21/22: Conte? Conte!!
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Is there a way to watch this match in the US? I have Peacock, Paramount+, and maybe even ESPN+ still.
Not anywhere in the US.
There's some dodgy streams around though. But, basically can't even pay to watch it legit.
There's some dodgy streams around though. But, basically can't even pay to watch it legit.
Fans always demand the massively rotated play the kids team for this sort of match and this match is a textbook demonstration of why that is incorrect.
True!
I suspect they don't want to go out of this competition though, despite this squad selection.
They should still do enough at home to keep going, provided a few more actual first-team Spurs players are involved in that one. Pacos were not too impressive outside of taking what was given with a few Buster Keaton defensive actions.
Bad performance but we basically played the u23s.
I don’t think it should be too hard to see out the tie at home with some senior players.
I don’t think it should be too hard to see out the tie at home with some senior players.
We started Lo Celso, Romero, Davies, Doherty, Gil and Winks. But outside of Lo Celso, Gil and Romero, those guys will hopefully not get a heck of a lot of run, at least in bigger matches. Sessegnon started as well. No idea how to classify him. Romero was actually beaten on the goal (in fairness, after a Winks giveaway) with what announcers said was bad positioning. All in all we were very sloppy, youngsters or not.
Gil apparently roams a lot and Tottenham's shape suffered. He looks lively though.
That said, that was 11 guys that likely won't play much together--ever. It wasn't good, but if they can't overcome a 1-0 deficit at home...
Posted to Pacos de Ferreira’s TikTok account:
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These guys have been trolling you hard. This was from before the match.
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This is fake (in that the one that the club account posted didn't have the Spurs bird in it).
So when is it acceptable for me to start hoping / praying / begging for an Ndombele for McKennie swap with Juve? This is a total USMNT homer thing, my favorite American player on my EPL team would be fucking great. McKennie's tryhard energy and agressiveness is exactly what this team needs in the middle of the field. He probably fills the set piece delta left going from Toby to Romero as well.
View: https://twitter.com/thespursweb/status/1428997028898611205
View: https://twitter.com/thespursweb/status/1428997028898611205
As N'dombele has been my Spurs binky since he signed, I will refuse to acknowledge his failure at Spurs until he's actually out the door. But don't let that stop the rest of you.
Not only would it be awesome for all the reasons GF mentions, but I could totally see a midfield identity forming for Nuno if he’s rotating a bunch of guys that all have the versatility to play multiple midfield areas.
PEH/Skipp/Lo Celso/McKennie/Dele In a 3 rotation would be hard for the opponents to play through the middle and any of these guys could get box-to-box and even into the box with a hard working mentality.
It would lack creativity but would have a nice identity.
which of course means it won’t happen, but I’d love it.
PEH/Skipp/Lo Celso/McKennie/Dele In a 3 rotation would be hard for the opponents to play through the middle and any of these guys could get box-to-box and even into the box with a hard working mentality.
It would lack creativity but would have a nice identity.
which of course means it won’t happen, but I’d love it.
He's auditioning.
Be awesome if game plods along 1-0, Kane enters, Spurs score due to him and Levy goes "200 million".
These announcers--did they both play for Wolves? Seem a bit tilted. Not like Remy or Eck, but still.
Traore is impressive except his break vs lloris is telling. His finishing isn’t just not great, it’s awful.
id certainly take him though.
id certainly take him though.
Yeah, the guy has max speed, dribbling and power, so there has to be a reason he isn't Messi-like productive.
The guy who made him as a custom FIFA player would have been better off putting those 99s down to 92s and dumping those points into shooting.
My thought experiment early in his Man City career was always by what percentage Raheem Sterling would need to improve his finishing to be one of the world's best players.
With Traore, my goodness. If he was even average at finishing would he be a top thirty player in global football?
With Traore, my goodness. If he was even average at finishing would he be a top thirty player in global football?
It was interesting to watch Traore yesterday because Lage had a very different role for him than Nuno used to. Lage had Traore almost exclusively in the far left channel high up the pitch, combining with the LB and crossing with the occasional opportunity to cut in and shoot. Nuno used to have Traore drop much, much deeper - remember, Nuno first brought him into the starting XI as a wingback - and use those dribbles to aggressively progress the ball through midfield.
the latter role is what Traore is best suited for given the “quality” of his finishing right now. in his EPL career, he’s quite close to his xG (not counting the small sample of this season, where he’s 0 goals vs 1.1 xG): 2018-19 1 goal vs 1 xgoal, 19-20 4 vs 3.5, 20-21 2 vs 2.2. Meaning, Nuno never really put him in spots where he’d be a big goal scorer.
Bringing him to Spurs means Son is the new center forward and a world class dribbler is now working the flank to give the counter attack real threat. His FBref scouting report tells the tale;
the latter role is what Traore is best suited for given the “quality” of his finishing right now. in his EPL career, he’s quite close to his xG (not counting the small sample of this season, where he’s 0 goals vs 1.1 xG): 2018-19 1 goal vs 1 xgoal, 19-20 4 vs 3.5, 20-21 2 vs 2.2. Meaning, Nuno never really put him in spots where he’d be a big goal scorer.
Bringing him to Spurs means Son is the new center forward and a world class dribbler is now working the flank to give the counter attack real threat. His FBref scouting report tells the tale;
Spurs already have an abundance of pacy wingers who can play on the break (Son, Lucas, Bergwijn, Gil maybe) or go after long balls from the back. What you don't really have are creative, technical playmakers in either wide areas or the 10 role that can unlock a settled defense or who can help the team keep the ball and control matches.
Maybe you will sign both but I would definitely prioritize the latter over a player like Traore.
Maybe you will sign both but I would definitely prioritize the latter over a player like Traore.
Between Gil and possibly this, it appears that the thinking for unlocking a set defense is going to be dribbly wingers who can beat faced up defenders. Time will tell if that actually works, it does for Lucas sometimes but he’s too inconsistent to truly be relied on there.
As for controlling a game, that’s where someone who can really pick a pass is indeed desperately needed, but I think more in the deeper midfield than the attacking areas. This is theoretically supposed to be a fit Lo Celso or an interested Ndombele, but we haven’t seen much of either in their Spurs tenures.
It’s also possible that we’d see less Traore as a high winger being horrifying on the counter and more a deeper winger picking the ball up and helping actually beat presses and maintain possession, which Spurs have had an awful time of so far.
I couldn't agree more. If McKennie is available at the same price (and I know rumors are ridiculous, but let's assume), he's a MUCH bigger need than Traore.
It's not that I don't want Traore, just that I think the spend should be elsewhere (need a RB and a backup striker too).
So Adama as RB confirmed, yeah? More seriously, he does seem a bit redundant with the plethora of wing options even if he's a different mold (he's damn near one of a kind). But if it allows Son to stay more central I guess it could be good? The thinking may also be short term and if Japh is the starting RB for some time, you could do a lot worse than having Adama play near MF and be responsible for driving play forward for the right flank.
I'm also a huge GLC fanboi but I do think GLC has a starter role on this team. A Skipp-Hoj-GLC MF features a lot of overlap, but perhaps just enough distinction (i.e. GLC by far the best passer and attacker of the bunch) to make it work? It kind of reminds me of the 'Pool Hendo-Fab-Gini group, but with less defensive stoutness (stoutitude?!?). That MF lacks a bit of creativity, and that's why Dele needs to be mentioned, but I think there's enough creativity in those 4 to make the MF work.
I'm also a huge GLC fanboi but I do think GLC has a starter role on this team. A Skipp-Hoj-GLC MF features a lot of overlap, but perhaps just enough distinction (i.e. GLC by far the best passer and attacker of the bunch) to make it work? It kind of reminds me of the 'Pool Hendo-Fab-Gini group, but with less defensive stoutness (stoutitude?!?). That MF lacks a bit of creativity, and that's why Dele needs to be mentioned, but I think there's enough creativity in those 4 to make the MF work.
Carty Free thinks Traore means they won't sell Kane:
Reports: Adama Traore a priority signing for Tottenham in the last week of the transfer window - Cartilage Free Captain (sbnation.com)
Reports: Adama Traore a priority signing for Tottenham in the last week of the transfer window - Cartilage Free Captain (sbnation.com)
I do wonder if an eventual back 3 with Traore playing a RWB position (instead of Doherty) and Japhet playing the right side of the back 3 is Nuno's preference.
Otherwise this seems more of a luxury signing, when we need help elsewhere.
Traoere, Kane and Son up front in Nuno's 4-3-3 will lead to the 5th place finish with an absolutely incredible end of season highlight reel full of streaking goals where the other team's defense and keeper look overwhelmed. They'd also be the premier league team that you would least want to fight. Traoere, Tanganga, Hojbjerg and Dier are probably all top 10-15 tough guys in the league. So, sign me up, even it means they will have at least four key 2-0 losses to smart, well managed teams that destroy them in the middle of the pitch and don't let them counter.
I guess what really matters in the midfield is two things: Skipp getting much better than he was yesterday way ahead of schedule and either A. an Ndombele miracle return or turning Tanguy into a productive midfielder, preferably this guy:
I guess what really matters in the midfield is two things: Skipp getting much better than he was yesterday way ahead of schedule and either A. an Ndombele miracle return or turning Tanguy into a productive midfielder, preferably this guy:
I don’t think it’s happening, but if we’re dreaming might as well go with the purest uncut beautiful fantasy version.
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Wait, originally it was Ndombele--now they'll take Sissoko? Uh, yes please.
I love Sissoko, but mostly from what he was a few seasons ago. Now? What would Juve be thinking?
That's what I mean--that's so far-fetched I almost believe it, because who would peddle that as a fake rumor?