True, but they're usually the culmination of months of negotiating and planning with many dominos falling. Selling Bale now would leave them scrambling. A striker has been needed since Berbatov left so signing Soldado or Damaio wouldn't count as reinvesting the funds. I honestly think selling now is crazy. The players that they could have spent the money on that they could have reasonably attracted, players like Higuain, Mkhritriyan, Aubameyang and Moutinho have already moved. Keep Bale, start preparing and negotiating for three or four players and do it next year.
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Right but most negotiations aren't done out in the public for B+/A- players.Apisith said:
For example, last August, Spurs got:
Lloris for £12m which was a drawn out negotiation
Dempsey for £7m which came out of nowhere
Dembele for £15m which came out of nowhere
Adebayor for £5m which was forever-taking
And sold VDV after 2 days of talks.
Also...why wouldn't Soldado or Damaio count as reinvesting the money? Just because they need them? Well no shit, but the biggest argument for selling Bale would be to fund getting guys like Damaio and Soldado.
And finally, since I think there is a good amount of wrong in most of your posts, Spurs haven't been missing a good striker since Berbatov went to United. They needed one to help lift the scoring pressure on Bale after Defoe turned into a wee pumpkin in November, but the year before they got 18 goals from Adebayor, 17 from Defoe and 13 from VDV (all playing forwards), the year before, Pavyluchenko had 14, VDV had 15, and Crouch had 11.
The year before, they had 24 from Defoe, 10 from Pavyluchencko, and 13 from Crouch. In all 4 seasons, Spurs finised 4th twice, and 5th twice, and scored a lot of goals each year.
Stick to Newcastle.
Let Bale go now.
80 million, regardless of how the deal is structured, is a rather nice treasure chest to have....
80 million, regardless of how the deal is structured, is a rather nice treasure chest to have....
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I think it would overall be a good get for Spurs, but it sounds too complex to me. You have to convince those two players to come, which might not be an easy task, plus get Pastore as well. Have there even been rumors of him leaving PSG this summer? I haven't seen or heard anything. Di Maria and Pastore would be a nice way to soften the blow of losing Bale, just not sure that those players are signing up to play for Spurs without CL football in a World Cup year. Although even as I type it, I guess those players are all pretty secure in their spots with their respective National Teams, but as a City fan I feel like we could never land the big name players without CL football without paying huge wages, which I think it is obvious Levy isn't about to do.
The Guardian chimes in:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jul/27/gareth-bale-real-madrid-tottenham-hotspur
The Daily Mail has something too: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2380429/Gareth-Bale-pictured-London-Spurs-chief-Daniel-Levy-returns-Real-Madrid-talks.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jul/27/gareth-bale-real-madrid-tottenham-hotspur
The Daily Mail has something too: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2380429/Gareth-Bale-pictured-London-Spurs-chief-Daniel-Levy-returns-Real-Madrid-talks.html
DrewDawg said:
The only meaningful part of the Guardian article is this:
The rest is probably all nonsense leaked by Bale's agent's second cousin's squash partner to try sound important/sell newspapers/gain leverage in contract negotiations.
Wild rumor today is that Levy is asking for a world record fee plus Luka Modric for Bale. I absolutely loved watching Modric play in the EPL and think he could really help the Spurs midfield, adding something different than Paulinho, Dembele, and Sandro. You put Luka back on Spurs and teams wont be able to overrun the midfield, which was a huge problem last year, because Luka can dribble and pass his way out of defenders pressing high up the pitch.
My question for Spurs fans is there is too much bad blood to accept him back? I know there has to be some ill will after trying to force himself out of WHL two straight summers, but for a player of his quality, I would be willing to have him on my team in a heartbeat. Man is absolute magic on the ball.
My question for Spurs fans is there is too much bad blood to accept him back? I know there has to be some ill will after trying to force himself out of WHL two straight summers, but for a player of his quality, I would be willing to have him on my team in a heartbeat. Man is absolute magic on the ball.
He started 36 matches for them, he left for CL football, I think he'd have a hard time going back to no getting it, and plenty of CL eligible teams would love to have him
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The Modric to MUFC rumor makes a lot more sense. He'd be a really good fit there, unfortunately.
Not to be an ass but is there any team where Modric wouldn't be a good fit. He's a pretty special player and if you can snag him back and pocket 80 mil while doing it you jump on it.Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
NHbeau said:
Modric could help any team but he would be an especially good fit at MUFC because they've been looking for (and lacking) a player like him for years.
I'm sure Tottenham would love to have him back but I'm just as sure that's its not entirely up to them. The player has a say, which is the whole point of what both Snake and I were saying.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23531981
Tottenham Hotspur have agreed a club record £26m deal to sign Valencia striker Roberto Soldado.
He will sign a four-year contract to become Spurs' third summer signing once a medical is completed on Friday.
Soldado, 28, who has 11 caps for Spain, scored 30 goals in 46 appearances for the La Liga club last season.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/transfer-news-real-madrid-looking-to-find-a-solution-to-sign-gareth-bale-from-tottenham-reveals-carlo-ancelotti-8741272.html
Madrid boss remained coy on the situation but admitted that talks were taking place over the transfer and that Luka Modric will not be part of any player exchange
Real Madrid manager Carlo Ancelotti has confirmed that the Spanish club are in talks with Tottenham over a move for Gareth Bale and hopes that a deal can be agreed that will see the winger move to the Santiago Bernabeu.
I think he's offski.
Tottenham Hotspur have agreed a club record £26m deal to sign Valencia striker Roberto Soldado.
He will sign a four-year contract to become Spurs' third summer signing once a medical is completed on Friday.
Soldado, 28, who has 11 caps for Spain, scored 30 goals in 46 appearances for the La Liga club last season.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/transfer-news-real-madrid-looking-to-find-a-solution-to-sign-gareth-bale-from-tottenham-reveals-carlo-ancelotti-8741272.html
Madrid boss remained coy on the situation but admitted that talks were taking place over the transfer and that Luka Modric will not be part of any player exchange
Real Madrid manager Carlo Ancelotti has confirmed that the Spanish club are in talks with Tottenham over a move for Gareth Bale and hopes that a deal can be agreed that will see the winger move to the Santiago Bernabeu.
I think he's offski.
Fee Agreed for Soldado
In stupid season news, Spurs and Madrid have apparently agreed to a £104.5m fee for Gareth Bale, but it's contingent on Spurs signing 3 players to replace him. Soldado being the first.
In stupid season news, Spurs and Madrid have apparently agreed to a £104.5m fee for Gareth Bale, but it's contingent on Spurs signing 3 players to replace him. Soldado being the first.
Is Suarez the second?
This says they want 100 mil and Alvaro Morata: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/jul/31/tottenham-gareth-bale-alvaro-morata?
Morata is a 20 year old, from Madrid. I can't imagine he's going to be keen on leaving his hometown team.
This says they want 100 mil and Alvaro Morata: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/jul/31/tottenham-gareth-bale-alvaro-morata?
Morata is a 20 year old, from Madrid. I can't imagine he's going to be keen on leaving his hometown team.
Keen bit of business again by Levy, nullifying the sell-on clause when Southhampton were in need of cash. Also confirms that Tottenham, even back in 2008, realized that Bale probably wouldn't be a Spur forever and would eventually be sold.
Even though the move might have cost Southhampton 20 million pounds, I find it hard to fault them for it given the benefit of hindsight. Bale was not the star player then he was now and Southhampton are currently in the Premier League and doing quite well for themselves. Who knows, without that 3 million they might not be in the top flight today.
Even though the move might have cost Southhampton 20 million pounds, I find it hard to fault them for it given the benefit of hindsight. Bale was not the star player then he was now and Southhampton are currently in the Premier League and doing quite well for themselves. Who knows, without that 3 million they might not be in the top flight today.
Bale's agent Jonathan Barnes has confirmed that Bale did not travel to Monaco with the club, staying behind to finalize his move.
The sell on fee is the same as Walcott's, innit? Both Arsenal and Spurs bought out the clause when Southampton were in deep shit.
£100m is a crazy fee. I still think they shouldn't do it because too many chips need to fall for them in the next month to be able to have a better squad and compete. I never said transfers don't happen in August, by the way. I said they're usually the culmination of months of negotiation, especially for bigger transfers where there are lots of agents and lots of fees.
£100m is a crazy fee. I still think they shouldn't do it because too many chips need to fall for them in the next month to be able to have a better squad and compete. I never said transfers don't happen in August, by the way. I said they're usually the culmination of months of negotiation, especially for bigger transfers where there are lots of agents and lots of fees.
You won't be able to replace Bale with B type players who don't require protracted negotiations. I actually don't want to argue every detail, there's no point. I just generally think that if you want to replace Bale, August 1st is not a good time to start looking for replacements.
I actually like you guys and hope you do well.
I actually like you guys and hope you do well.
I'd assume there have been some contingency plans in place and Spurs have been talking with clubs about potential replacements. The fact they sold Caulker tells me they're close to signing a top flight center back (the alternative is they're really stupid, which I'm not totally ruling out). One more big signing after that is not out of the question, and that would still leave them with a good chunk of change to address a major need in the January transfer window depending on form and injuries.
But yeah ideally this would have been sorted out by now
But yeah ideally this would have been sorted out by now
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Stop it. Stop pretending that you aren't saying what you're saying. Stop assuming that just because a negotiation is private means that it's not happening. And stop pretending that major pieces don't move in August with little or no fanfare beforehand.Apisith said:
Really going to miss watching Dempsey play in the EPL this season. Financially it makes sense for all parties with Tottenham recouping almost their entire transfer for him last season and Deuce being paid $32 million to play for Seattle.
As a Premier League snob who doesn't watch the MLS, it really is socking that a player in his prime is choosing to go back and play there. Guess its just showing the evolution of the MLS, along with what are obvious financial and lifestyle incentives to living and playing in the US.
As a Premier League snob who doesn't watch the MLS, it really is socking that a player in his prime is choosing to go back and play there. Guess its just showing the evolution of the MLS, along with what are obvious financial and lifestyle incentives to living and playing in the US.
I'm pretty sure I read in one of the articles about Bale's sell-on clause that Walcott's clause was not bought out.
Why would Dempsey agree to an MLS move I'm sure a good EPL team would be interested. Say West Ham where he'd get playing time.
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32 million convincing reasons over 4 years. Biggest contract in MLS history. Plus he will be one of the faces of the league and one if its best players in your home country. Also almost guarentee the MLS offered Tottenham a higher transfer fee than any premier league team was willing to.
It was in the Daily Mail (I know . . . ), but they updated it and took the Everton bit out.mgoblue2 said:
If you google - Dempsey Everton daily mail - Everton still comes up in the preview blurb but not in the updated story.
Everton was in San Francisco at the time that Dempsey was spotted at SFO, which might have contributed to speculation linking them.
Etienne Capoue, French International. DCM who can also play (the much needed) CB.
http://www.whoscored.com/Blog/ev1jrlwbn0uiclykffaowg/Show/Player-Focus-Suitors-Must-Act-Fast-in-the-Race-for-Capoue
Tolouse president has confirmed
http://www.whoscored.com/Blog/ev1jrlwbn0uiclykffaowg/Show/Player-Focus-Suitors-Must-Act-Fast-in-the-Race-for-Capoue
Tolouse president has confirmed
Awesome, I didn't think Spurs were even sniffing around him.
I'm glad it was confirmed by Olivier Sadran after the strange (but hilarious) Gigi Becali/Vlad Chiriches non-signing.
I'm glad it was confirmed by Olivier Sadran after the strange (but hilarious) Gigi Becali/Vlad Chiriches non-signing.
Atletico Madrid was in the pole position to sign him. In the end, our arch enemy, Real Madrid, screws us two ways: they get Bale, and Tottenham takes our top target with Real Madrid's money. Joder.
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