SportsCenter & OTL Bringing Back Spygate (live, 9AM)
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SportsCenter @SportsCenter 5m5 minutes ago
Packers had a headset issue of their own in their preseason opener against Patriots last month. http://es.pn/1UHHZp1
Packers had a headset issue of their own in their preseason opener against Patriots last month. http://es.pn/1UHHZp1
Interesting that news spreads so fast when it's about the Cheatriots, yet we have a coach assaulting a fan, and it doesn't hit until the following day.
soxhop411 said:
This should stop all conspiracy cheater crap immediately. Why in the fuck would a team mess with the headsets in the first preseason game? But of course people don't think rationally.
Hanigan did have the day off. Did the wiring for Bill and caught a plane to Tampa.E5 Yaz said:
Joe Posnanski @JPosnanski 16h16 hours ago
Patriots obviously put invisible paint on Edelman and Gronkowski.
Joe Posnanski @JPosnanski 16h16 hours ago
Patriots obviously installed moving uprights.
dcmissle said:
This is true. This is driving me crazy. I'm going to try the embracing it route now.
E5 Yaz said:
Nah, dc's right. It's only embarrassing to the Pats if you let it be. The media is running with it because #cheatriots and every media market outside of New England laps this shit up. It's click-bait and we don't have to succumb.
allstonite said:
Cross-training the dorito dinks so they have something to do until they can return to ball deflating duties.
Red(s)HawksFan said:
At PFT, eight of the top ten "most commented" stories are related to the Patriots. None of the stories are about football, all of them relate to cheating.
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 1m1 minute ago
Steelers did not and will not file a complaint to NFL about headset communication last night, per team official.
Steelers did not and will not file a complaint to NFL about headset communication last night, per team official.
dcmissle said:
To quote a movie you might have seen, now who's been naïve?
Gamesmanship is going to mentioned each and every week during telecasts for the rest of the year. These stories--including the play sheet story--are far from being over.
That is fine by me cause I don't care about the stories. I do care about the League. This is a chickenshit issue from the League's standpoint.Shelterdog said:
And yes. The Steelers did embarrass themselves mightily -- Tomlin especially.
Maybe that is why they may have changed their minds on filing a complaint
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/642389129569792000"]1m1soxhop411 said:
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Steelers did not and will not file a complaint to NFL about headset communication last night, per team official.
Sources were emphatic this morning that the steelers were filing. I wonder if the NFL told them to knock it off when they went to file. If so, that would be a good thing. It would mean the adults in the league are realizing they have an issue and it won't stop unless they put an end to this crap. Maybe the other owners realize fi ally that this isn't healthy for the game...
The play sheet and related stories don't have legs? Dan Patrick asked Rodney Harrison on the pregame show last night if he was a cheater whose titles deserved to have an asterisk.
This is all silly, and probably positive for the Patriots from an on the field standpoint this year given teams coming into Foxboro seem to be chasing ghosts rather than Gronk, but this Pats cheating narrative is going to be here all season.
This is all silly, and probably positive for the Patriots from an on the field standpoint this year given teams coming into Foxboro seem to be chasing ghosts rather than Gronk, but this Pats cheating narrative is going to be here all season.
I guess teh Steeler's spokesman is saying " We provided information" in the sense that NFL communications team probably requested "what frequency were you on?" "what happened at what time" etc, and they didn't actually file a complaint.
I'm guessing that the ESPN reporter hearing that providing information thing and spinning it to they "Steelers filed a complaint" when it's just normal procedure.
I'm guessing that the ESPN reporter hearing that providing information thing and spinning it to they "Steelers filed a complaint" when it's just normal procedure.
Shelterdog said:
Good. (I usually keep the sound way down anyway). The Patriots are used to dealing with this shit (by not dealing with it). The other teams not so much. How much does it get in some random Dolphin, Colt or Cowboy's head when they are asked dozens of questions about how the other team is going to cheat in ways you can't imagine to beat you? Enough to leave Gronkowski uncovered? Twice?
Because *everything* is being forced into the "cheating" box (the weather, a defensive shift), we are almost here:
I was responding to the contention that it would spawn an investigation and discipline. It will not -- I have said that 3 times, and won't say it again.Stitch01 said:
I had enough common sense not to watch any of the pre-game show.
The media willl never be fair, so look on the bright side -- this is excellent fuel for our season.
It easy to say "sit back and enjoy the chaos" right up to the point where the league starts taking away draft picks and tries to suspend players and coaches.
This is very similar to how Deflategate got started. My concern is the NFL is just waiting for the right opportunity to nail the Pats.
It looks like the media is going to be more than willing to provide the opportunity with weekly "gates".
This is very similar to how Deflategate got started. My concern is the NFL is just waiting for the right opportunity to nail the Pats.
It looks like the media is going to be more than willing to provide the opportunity with weekly "gates".
No. Deflategate got huge because nobody had ever even considered the inflation level of balls before, except in one or two cases, and because it was a championship game.
We already have literally dozens of people on record saying that this radio signal stuff happens all the time, in every stadium. It would be impossible to prop this incident up as somehow "unfair play" when it's going on all the time.
It would be like saying the Patriots should be punished because they didn't put a dome on their stadium and sometimes it rains.
We already have literally dozens of people on record saying that this radio signal stuff happens all the time, in every stadium. It would be impossible to prop this incident up as somehow "unfair play" when it's going on all the time.
It would be like saying the Patriots should be punished because they didn't put a dome on their stadium and sometimes it rains.
Meanwhile, toughness, resilience, discipline, hard work, virtue -- Stiller qualities, no? You have your head coach losing his composure over comms, and Baby Ben whining about legit line play. And a year after you part ways with LeBeau, you can't cover an ant with a table cloth.
I know this is wishful thinking and BB's loathe to create distractions, but I'd love to see him use the post game presser as a bully pulpit to raise the idea of getting those draft picks back. The national reporters are so starved for real quotes from him that I'd be surprised if they didn't give the comments some run. Putting the idea out there - that a miscarriage of justice has been done, ideal gas law, no record of actual PSI before game, etc. - might turn some heads. This stuff about headsets - it's just unfair. You'd think some owners would be sympathetic and have a sense of shame.
As I said wishful thinking. It's amazing how disciplined BB is to resist the bully pulpit. Couldn't be more proud he's our coach and it's a pity other fans, writers, etc. are blinding themselves to his genius, sense of history, discipline and, yes, sportsmanship.
As I said wishful thinking. It's amazing how disciplined BB is to resist the bully pulpit. Couldn't be more proud he's our coach and it's a pity other fans, writers, etc. are blinding themselves to his genius, sense of history, discipline and, yes, sportsmanship.
DrewDawg said:
Also heard Peter King on the pre-game show yesterday saying something similar -- that Goodell doesn't tolerate dissenting views and that people are getting sick of being shouted down any time they dare to question the boss. Something about the NFL needing a "The emperor has no clothes" moment.
[p.s. We really need to have a separate thread for some of the anti-NFL whispering going on. Call it the Schadenfreude Thread or something]
Great. So if the NFL oversees operation of the audio equipment and the NFL sets the policy for when that equipment must be shut off if not functioning properly, then the Steelers filing a complaint is not targeting the Patriots, it's targeting the League. What's the problem? If the NFL were to look at the situation and say "gee, we really can't allow one team to have fully functioning audio while the other doesn't, because it creates an unfair advantage," is that wrong? Is a status quo of incompetence okay? Am I to believe that Belicheck and BoB and McCarthy are perfectly happy to lose audio while the other team has it?Average Reds said:
At this point my rooting interests in non-Patriot games are basically reduced to "who isn't a big fat crybaby?" Tom Coughlin, for one, wouldn't be caught dead getting wrapped up in this. Hope he doesn't get canned this year, if only because he and BB are buds. Hell, as mentioned above, for all his faults, Rexy won't fall into the trap either.