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Fishercat

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Did you pull this and the Manny from Hobby boxes or retail blasters?
I think odds are the same between retail and hobby for short prints, I know they are more common in jumbos but everything are.

I haven’t seen any of those amazing Topps update cards available as singles on eBay yet. Am I missing them?
They just started appearing in stores so I expect a flood coming up.
 
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Pulled this last year from a retail blaster (2021 Allen & Ginter - Framed Mini Auto). Bittersweet (hard to pull that insert, one of my best pulls ever, but would have wanted more popular player).

Wanted to trade it but never put effort into it. Now I'm not trading it. Keeping it for memory of tonight
 

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New controversy in the hobby: the code on the sticker of Crown Royale boxes tells you if there's a Kaboom in the box
 

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Is anyone going to the show this weekend at the Shriners in Wilmington? I'll probably be there earlyish tomorrow. Not looking for anything specific, but haven't been to a show in about 30 years (I think the last one was 1992 and Vinny Pazienza was signing autos).
 

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Is anyone going to the show this weekend at the Shriners in Wilmington? I'll probably be there earlyish tomorrow. Not looking for anything specific, but haven't been to a show in about 30 years (I think the last one was 1992 and Vinny Pazienza was signing autos).
Possibly Sunday
Would be there all day every day if this was next week or a month ago
 

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If I weren't adopting a dog this weekend I'd probably cash in some proverbial chips to do it, but higher priotiies will take.

That Kaboom thing is wild....like it really doesn't look good with the recent Backyard discussion I'll say that and I'm not in the market for products that have Kabooms but that'd make me absolutely paranoid about buying a standalone box.
 

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If I weren't adopting a dog this weekend I'd probably cash in some proverbial chips to do it, but higher priotiies will take.

That Kaboom thing is wild....like it really doesn't look good with the recent Backyard discussion I'll say that and I'm not in the market for products that have Kabooms but that'd make me absolutely paranoid about buying a standalone box.
From what I've heard so far, there are a number of card shops that already knew about it. So yeah, definitely makes you think twice about buying something like that.
 

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How can you tell on the Crown code?
There's apparently a string of letters and numbers on the hologram based on the Sports Card Radio video that talks about the isuse.. Others in the comments say that this has happened with many other products snd SCR/LMS Box Breaks is not revealing the particular sequence but while SCR can get out over their skis IMO, it feels like a really far ledge to go off of to lie about it. Apparently if you watch several breaks where you see the stickers, you can find the pattern.

Cardsinfinity commented on the video and said this has been going on for about a decade and they started to cover sitckers/not show them and label the boxes themselves and make people hit a number. Another commented indicated that a different sticker code on a Topps product might indicate a substantial hit but it's less backed up. Another breaker brings back some products can be weighed.

I feel like the takeaway here is that if you're really going whale hunting to make sure your seller or breaker is on the up and up, and honestly even at retail I don't know how you do that or you buy into sealed case breaks which just seems prohibitively pricy. Tough sledding out there.
 

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Man these companies are really screwing with the golden goose for no apparent reason. I could understand the need to identify boxes for packing hits but they could do it in a way so that this isn’t a problem. Ruining consumer confidence could turn a mole hill into a mountain very quickly.
 

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Ok that show was pretty ridiculous in a "going to a museum" sense. Saw more 52 Mantles than I thought existed, along with tons of even older stuff (rows of Ruth, Cobb etc). The craziest being a full T206 set on display.
 

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Ok that show was pretty ridiculous in a "going to a museum" sense. Saw more 52 Mantles than I thought existed, along with tons of even older stuff (rows of Ruth, Cobb etc). The craziest being a full T206 set on display.
Thanks for the report!
Any deals on low end stuff?
 

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There were some booths advertising bulk buys or big percentage off but idk if they were actually good deals. Got a couple of low grade vintage cards at what I think were decent prices, but there was a lot more sticker shock high grade stuff on display.
 

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Shot in the dark... and not sure if bartering is cool in here, but I'm looking to trade a '75 Brett Mini PSA 6 for an '87 Donruss #36 Maddux PSA 10, if anyone's interested? They're both selling for about $200 on eBay. Would also consider Topps baseball lot/starter set from '71, '72 or '73.

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This is the biggest pull I’ve ever had by a factor of a million. I think. Can you please help me out?

2022 Topps Update #US44 Julio Rodriguez Father’s day Powder Blue. 29/50

I’m seeing a closed auction on eBay for this card at $1899, and two open auctions at $1801 and $1700 respectively. All for ungraded cards.

So, as I’m in a mood to cash this in… do I bother getting this graded? Looks to me not to be perfectly centered (top border a little thinner than the bottom border?).

Any other advice? Just list on eBay or is there a better/safer way to go?
 
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Any other advice? Just list on eBay or is there a better/safer way to go?
WOW, awesome hit!

In my NOOB opinion, I'd sell immediately (ungraded, unless you're sure it's a 10) and maybe see what you can get in a private sale on Facebook Marketplace, or in the Blowout cards forum... before listing on eBay and paying the 12.9% fee.
 

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This is the biggest pull I’ve ever had by a factor of a million. I think. Can you please help me out?

2022 Topps Update #US44 Julio Rodriguez Father’s day Powder Blue. 29/50

I’m seeing a closed auction on eBay for this card at $1899, and two open auctions at $1801 and #1700 respectively. All for ungraded cards.

So, as I’m in a mood to cash this in… do I bother getting this graded? Looks to me not to be perfectly centered (top border a little thinner than the bottom border?).

Any other advice? Just list on eBay or is there a better/safer way to go?
Sell immediately.
 

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This is the biggest pull I’ve ever had by a factor of a million. I think. Can you please help me out?

2022 Topps Update #US44 Julio Rodriguez Father’s day Powder Blue. 29/50

I’m seeing a closed auction on eBay for this card at $1899, and two open auctions at $1801 and #1700 respectively. All for ungraded cards.

So, as I’m in a mood to cash this in… do I bother getting this graded? Looks to me not to be perfectly centered (top border a little thinner than the bottom border?).

Any other advice? Just list on eBay or is there a better/safer way to go?
Go to a card show, ask for $1650 cash, look for a dealer who does both raw and graded who would want to take the grading cost risk/investment
Take $1500 if offered.

If you can’t get $1500, consider if you have enough other cards to send for grading at the same time (pretty sure it’s very inefficient to only send one card in)

Also consider doing grading on consignment of you can find someone you trust (only suggesting since you card is numbered)
 

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My son has asked for baseball cards for Christmas. He doesn't want a complete set like I bought him last year. He wants individual packs that he can tear open. What is the best way to get your hands on a bunch of contemporary packs?
 

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My son has asked for baseball cards for Christmas. He doesn't want a complete set like I bought him last year. He wants individual packs that he can tear open. What is the best way to get your hands on a bunch of contemporary packs?
Target is selling Chrome and Bowman '21 boxes online right now.
 

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Probably depends on what he wants. The easiest "go-to" are blaster boxes, generally orderable from Target and other retailers. Contains 6-8 retail packs in an easy little box. The downside is retail carries only limited types of cards. An alternative is going to a hobby store where you can likely pick out single packs of a bunch of different stuff - pricier and you can't guarantee it's not picked through but you get more of a fun variety and you can customize it. The third alternative is ordering a whole retail or hobby box online - more packs and some products guarantee a "hit" (like a relic card or autograph) but it's pricier with less product variety.

I mentioned it here before but Books A Million is great for this stuff

Topps : : Booksamillion.com

Value Box / Relic Box = Blaster
Display Box = Retail Box
Fat Packs = Single retail packs but with more cards/better odds
Hanger Boxes = Basicaly two fat packs in one opening

I don't personally love Chrome (return on it this year seems like crap) or Heritage (it's a set building product with vintage designs), but the flagship (I think Update is best of the three but all are fun) is a fun rip and I know Gypsy Queen and Archives have fans. Opening Day is fun for younger collectors but you can buy a whole hobby box of that for $35 on Ebay right now so...I'd do that over a blaster if that's where you want to go.
 

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My son has asked for baseball cards for Christmas. He doesn't want a complete set like I bought him last year. He wants individual packs that he can tear open. What is the best way to get your hands on a bunch of contemporary packs?
Stadium Club is always my favorite set, and releases (allegedly) next week. I'd check your local hobby store or eBay for a retail box or hobby box if your budget allows. It's a great rip.

I also have really enjoyed the Topps Update series, which is packed with rookies and has been very profitable for me (see post #1424 above). Not a lot of Red Sox in there, although the rare short-print cards of Pedro, Manny, Papi (also pictured above in this thread) are gorgeous if you get super lucky.
 

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This is the biggest pull I’ve ever had by a factor of a million. I think. Can you please help me out?

2022 Topps Update #US44 Julio Rodriguez Father’s day Powder Blue. 29/50

I’m seeing a closed auction on eBay for this card at $1899, and two open auctions at $1801 and #1700 respectively. All for ungraded cards.

So, as I’m in a mood to cash this in… do I bother getting this graded? Looks to me not to be perfectly centered (top border a little thinner than the bottom border?).

Any other advice? Just list on eBay or is there a better/safer way to go?
Wow, awesome hit! I got four boxes of this and the best pull I had was a Vladdy auto/relic card, but it's a redemption so need to wait a few months to actually get it. Congrats!
 

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BackYardBreaks making headlines again. Can't find link right now, but they were doing a free giveaway for an Absolute hobby box. Sure enough, the box hit a gold Trevor Lawrence KABOOM ($30ish K). Despite saying multiple times on stream that this was part of the giveaway, they wormed their way out of giving the card away.

Not a complete sin, but if you're going to be doing giveaways, either have stipulated that you won't give away cards past a certain price, or acknowledge that you're taking a risk to build viewers and accept the loss.

Fake edit: here's a link to a ticky tocky video. Can literally hear them say "were giving away a KABOOM!" "Were giving away a godamn KABOOM for free!" Before realizing it was the TLaw card.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTR9NuAjv/
Shenanigans! This is what happens when private companies are allowed to develop their own lottery.
 

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Wow, awesome hit! I got four boxes of this and the best pull I had was a Vladdy auto/relic card, but it's a redemption so need to wait a few months to actually get it. Congrats!
LOL, a few months. I just got a redemption from Panini for a Frank Ntilikina RPA from Panini Noir in 2017. Randomly got an email from Panini last week saying they were shipping it. Got the card, they sent me a Mitch Ritchmond auto from 2012-13 Panini Momentum /25.

They probably have comparable value now, but had I gotten and sold the Ntilikina when it came out his rookie year, I probably would have gotten 5x's the value it is right now. The whole fucking redemption thing is a scam and I have no idea how they get away with it. Is there another industry in the world where you buy a product, and you open it and they essentially give you an IOU? And the IOU can be sent whenever the fuck they feel like it?

Here's some of the redemptions I've been waiting on. Just consider the values if I had received these, and then sold them immediately versus what they are worth now:

2016 Panini Noir (16-17)
Autographed Prime Color
Redemption Code :
KABCIADJ1NC #15(/ 40)
Kenneth Faried
Denver Nuggets


2017 Panini Immaculate Collection
Immaculate Honors Signatures
Redemption Code :
NMF83KF3L73 #2(/ 17)
Joey Bosa
Los Angeles Chargers


2017 Panini Encased (17-18)
Scripted Signatures Green
Redemption Code :
N131BGNE4GK #23(/ 5)
Richard Jefferson
Denver Nuggets


2016 Panini National Treasures
Rookie Materials Signatures Purple
Redemption Code :
CBFK7FC4F9M #195(/ 49)
Robert Stephenson
Cincinnati Reds

2016 Panini National Treasures (16-17) This one is a LOGOMAN
Colossal Jersey Autographs Platinum
Redemption Code :
0DAEBG8EJG0 #28(/ 1)
DeMarre Carroll
Toronto Raptors

2016 Panini National Treasures (16-17)
Colossal Jersey Autographs
Redemption Code :
A7671HF3I38 #40(/ 49)
Patrick Ewing
New York Knicks

2016 Panini Spectra (16-17)
Rookie Jersey Autographs
Redemption Code :
HJIFBBFG3GK #137(/ 300)
Jamal Murray
Denver Nuggets


2016 Panini National Treasures (16-17)
Signatures
Redemption Code :
HKLEI7C18BC #52(/ 49)
DeMar DeRozan
Toronto Raptors


2016 Panini Spectra (16-17)
Rookie Jersey Autographs
Redemption Code :
C3N56E0EEFG #109(/ 300)
Jaylen Brown
Boston Celtics


2016 Panini Spectra (16-17)
Rookie Jersey Autographs Neon Blue
Redemption Code :
BGIDMJ6BJCD #109(/ 99)
Jaylen Brown
Boston Celtics


2017 Panini Immaculate Collection
Immaculate Shadowbox Signatures
Redemption Code :
0FMC24I95MD #26(/ 10)
Marcus Mariota
Tennessee Titans


2017 Panini Noir BK (17-18)
Rookie Patch Autographs Color
Redemption Code :
5HE2BF5NF1H #315(/ 99)
Justin Patton
Minnesota Timberwolves


2015 Panini Luxe (15-16)
DeLuxe
Redemption Code :
9CBFJFEGKDH #77(/ 25)
Chuck Person
Indiana Pacers


That's not even close to all of them. These are all from 2016-2017 when I submitted the redemption requests.
 

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Holy shit. I had no idea. How *do* they get away with that? How has there not been a class-action lawsuit or something? I assume it's all disclaimed away?
 

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What is the purpose of redemptions in the first place? So they can put out product before it’s ready?
Players are contractually obligated to sign cards. Most often with Topps they miss their deadlines. Someone like Wander Franco had to have signed 1000s if not 10s of thousands of cards for Topps this year.

Sometimes players seem to catch up when they land on the DL.

That’s Topps at least. Panini seems to just be a dumpster fire posing as a card company.