Right? I'm sure the Orioles and Tigers called on him....I wish there was a way to prove this, because I'd love to see you make a donation to the Jimmy Fund
Right? I'm sure the Orioles and Tigers called on him....I wish there was a way to prove this, because I'd love to see you make a donation to the Jimmy Fund
Sources on Thursday confirmed a report by The Athletic that said the Padres and Boston Red Sox have discussed a trade that would bring superstar outfielder Mookie Betts to San Diego.
However, as the initial report stated, a deal seems unlikely. Much like Preller showed serious interest in Cleveland Indians shortstop Francisco Lindor last month, the pursuit of Betts does not seem to fit in the Padres’ greater plans.
The team has added almost $20 million in salary since last season and is intent on staying a course of fiscal prudence that doesn’t jeopardize the likelihood of sustained success.
The package of prospects the Red Sox are evidently willing to accept as part of a deal for Betts does not include any of the Padres’ top five minor leaguers, and that is not the hang-up in the potential trade, according to the sources, who were not authorized to speak publicly.
Neither is it prohibitively distasteful to the Padres that they would essentially be renting the 27-year-old Betts for one season, as he is due $27 million in 2020 and could command $400 million or more as a free agent next winter.
The primary gap that would need to be bridged is in the portion of outfielder Wil Myers’ salary the Red Sox are willing to pay.
The Padres owe Myers $61 million over the next three seasons and have looked to move the former All-Star for the past two offseasons. It is not known how much the Red Sox have offered to pay or what the Padres would require, but sources said it needs to be much closer to the full value of the contract.
The motivation the Red Sox have to move Betts is in their desire to shed payroll.
I'm sure they did. They don't have to be serious trade talks. I'm sure the Sox have talked to the agents of many FA they don't really intend to sign.Right? I'm sure the Orioles and Tigers called on him....
Cashman too, I'd like to hear a recording of that alleged call.Right? I'm sure the Orioles and Tigers called on him....
This is a really specific case, no team who won't be a contender in 2020 would give up young talent for one year of Mookie just to see him leave next winter hence why plenty of teams likely haven't broached this topic at all with Bloom. Due diligence is one thing, wasting people's time for no reason is another.I'm sure they did.
Exactly.A lot here have said it but the idea of trading Mookie Betts so a billionaire doesn't have to shell out luxury tax is insulting. Layer on top of that not leveraging a generational talent for the best talent package and it makes it hard to think I'll be watching the Red Sox for the near future.
I dunno. Maybe. If I'm Elias, I'm calling to offer Chris Davis for Mookie Betts knowing full well what is going to happen.This is a really specific case, no team who won't be a contender in 2020 would give up young talent for one year of Mookie just to see him leave next winter hence why plenty of teams likely haven't broached this topic at all with Bloom. Due diligence is one thing, wasting people's time for no reason is another.
Good thing this has nothing to do with the Luxury Tax and everything to do with knowing Betts is not going to look back next winter. I don't get it, the Sox are trying to give Betts a contract and he wont take it, why is this hard to understand? People are looking to hate on the biggest spending owners in MLB, it's idiotic.A lot here have said it but the idea of trading Mookie Betts so a billionaire doesn't have to shell out luxury tax is insulting.
so if the Padres kicked in $39.5 million of the $63 million they owe him, does that mean he’d be free from a luxury tax standpoint, and only a bit more cost in actual dollars as Moreland and Pierce were the past two seasons?Myers' AAV is only 13.5M, so it would make a significant savings in trying to get under the tax
it has a great deal to do with the luxury tax, they may have tried walking it back, but it was clear from the outset that whether Betts, Bradley or elsewhere they wanted to get under. Betts is the move because he wants to go to Free Agency, as he should. There is no reason he should sign an offer without knowing his market. The team both wants to cut salary to re-set the tax AND make sure they get something for Betts.Good thing this has nothing to do with the Luxury Tax and everything to do with knowing Betts is not going to look back next winter. I don't get it, the Sox are trying to give Betts a contract and he wont take it, why is this hard to understand? People are looking to hate on the biggest spending owners in MLB, it's idiotic.
Good luck. Betts plus taking on 100% of Myers doesn't get you Tatis.If I'm trading Betts to SD, I want Tatis and one of him or Boegarts can move to 2b or 3b with Devers to 1st.
How do they compare to Allen Webster & Rubby De La Rossa I wonder?SD still has a pretty loaded system, so going by the mlb.com rankings since they're easily available, their #6-#8 prospects are all pretty promising pitchers, Morejon, Weathers and Baez. Weathers was the 7th pick in the 1st round in 2018.
Which is why you're where you are and Bloom is where he isIf I'm trading Betts to SD, I want Tatis and one of him or Boegarts can move to 2b or 3b with Devers to 1st.
Why is Betts a sure thing to leave as a free agent? Does Betts hate Boston?Good thing this has nothing to do with the Luxury Tax and everything to do with knowing Betts is not going to look back next winter. I don't get it, the Sox are trying to give Betts a contract and he wont take it, why is this hard to understand? People are looking to hate on the biggest spending owners in MLB, it's idiotic.
Not fair. I could say Jason Varitek and Derek Lowe and be just as valid,How do they compare to Allen Webster & Rubby De La Rossa I wonder?
Totally agreed. I don't care what else they have to do, keep Mookie.A lot here have said it but the idea of trading Mookie Betts so a billionaire doesn't have to shell out luxury tax is insulting. Layer on top of that not leveraging a generational talent for the best talent package and it makes it hard to think I'll be watching the Red Sox for the near future.
But what if trading Mookie now makes it more possible that they can sign him long-term next winter?Totally agreed. I don't care what else they have to do, keep Mookie.
Considerably more end up like Allen Webster and RDLR.Not fair. I could say Jason Varitek and Derek Lowe and be just as valid,
I'm down with JBJ.Good thing this has nothing to do with the Luxury Tax and everything to do with knowing Betts is not going to look back next winter. I don't get it, the Sox are trying to give Betts a contract and he wont take it, why is this hard to understand? People are looking to hate on the biggest spending owners in MLB, it's idiotic.
How do they compare to Allen Webster & Rubby De La Rossa I wonder?
Not fair. I could say Jason Varitek and Derek Lowe and be just as valid,
whose turn is it?Considerably more end up like Allen Webster and RDLR.
Sure there is, which is why plenty of players are like Xander and don't go to Free Agency. Liking where you are and feeling that the offer is enough/fair is a good reason for some. It's clearly not for Betts. That is completely his right, and that's fine. But not everyone "should" go to free agency, or feels the need to go to free agency and are perfectly happy with their reasoning and decision.it has a great deal to do with the luxury tax, they may have tried walking it back, but it was clear from the outset that whether Betts, Bradley or elsewhere they wanted to get under. Betts is the move because he wants to go to Free Agency, as he should. There is no reason he should sign an offer without knowing his market. The team both wants to cut salary to re-set the tax AND make sure they get something for Betts.
I just don't see the situation working out like that. It's possible I guess, but I think once he leaves he's gone for good.But what if trading Mookie now makes it more possible that they can sign him long-term next winter?
Hypothetically, how would you feel if the Red Sox gave Mookie a Trout-like contract and, as a result, had an Angels-like playoff record for the duration of that contract?Totally agreed. I don't care what else they have to do, keep Mookie.
What if it's about the billionaire's team getting a shot at early round draft picks sometime before my grandson moves into assisted living?A lot here have said it but the idea of trading Mookie Betts so a billionaire doesn't have to shell out luxury tax is insulting. Layer on top of that not leveraging a generational talent for the best talent package and it makes it hard to think I'll be watching the Red Sox for the near future.
Mike Zarren once told me that you could accurately report at any time that the Celtics were in trade talks with any other team because every team is always calling other teams about their guys. So unless MLB is a lot different, I think you're wrong.I wish there was a way to prove this, because I'd love to see you make a donation to the Jimmy Fund
Wait - so because 1 team talks to, presumably here, every other team, that means all teams check in with one particular one? That logic seems faulty to me, especially when considering a single player.Mike Zarren once told me that you could accurately report at any time that the Celtics were in trade talks with any other team because every team is always calling other teams about their guys. So unless MLB is a lot different, I think you're wrong.
Well, you know if one team rep say it ... all teams do the same thingWait - so because 1 team talks to, presumably here, every other team, that means all teams check in with one particular one? That logic seems faulty to me, especially when considering a single player.
I think you mean 5 years, but apologies for being pedantic.Athletic Boston reports tonight reports Cal Quantrill has been in trade talks, he tired at the end of last year and had 3 horrible starts before being shut down, but he was really good most of the spring and summer. That could be six years of a mid roattion starter with premium stuff.
He doesn't have a full year's service time, so it would be 6 years.I think you mean 5 years, but apologies for being pedantic.
I'd be more OK with Quantrill (would prefer Lamet as stated above) and one top prospect... but still, eating Myers deal would suck and shouldn't be the basis of this dealAthletic Boston reports tonight reports Cal Quantrill has been in trade talks, he tired at the end of last year and had 3 horrible starts before being shut down, but he was really good most of the spring and summer. That could be six years of a mid roattion starter with premium stuff.
Definitely a Bloom guy, SD just got him from TB a month or two ago so Bloom must know him very well.By the way, the Padres have a guy I'm mildly obsessed with named Jake Cronenworth -- a shortstop/pitcher who hit 334/429/520 in AAA last year and also pitched as an "opener." He seems like a Bloom Guy, and MLB has him ranked 17 in the Padres' system. Sign me up for him as the last piece in a deal.
Oh, right, of course. Not sure how that synapse failed to fire. Myers is also a former TB guy who had success there.Definitely a Bloom guy, SD just got him from TB a month or two ago so Bloom must know him very well.
It’s not impossible, they have a lot of prospects, a GM under pressure to get to 85 wins at least this year, and they’d get a high draft pick back after he left.I don't see how any deal that is palatable for the Red Sox makes sense for the Padres - are they going to subsidize Myers, send multiple prospects to Boston *and* pay Mookie's full 2020 salary for what might be a one-year rental?
I'm beginning to think we need one of those filters like we used to have for misspellings of Buchholz, where every time someone types "trading Betts" it comes out as "trading one year of Betts and his $27 million salary." Because the second phrase is the reality we're talking about, and it sounds very different that way.If I'm trading Betts to SD, I want Tatis and one of him or Boegarts can move to 2b or 3b with Devers to 1st.