Sox claim Doug Fister
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The move to the 'pen was announced when EdRo was being reactivated.
I'm sure he could give the team an inning or two on Sunday if need be.
I'm sure he could give the team an inning or two on Sunday if need be.
Fister was gruesome in the l6 inning game against the Yankees. I hope he's only used for mop up.
As long as the rest of the bullpen is healthy that point, that would be fine. Much rather have Workman in there, with the way he's throwing right now.
I wonder which much better pitcher will go to Pawrucket to make room for Fistter? But Farrell has to have his Veterans.
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Yes, the manager who has Benintendi, Bradley, Betts, Bogaerts and Vasquez in the staring lineup hates young players
He's walking guys at twice the rate he walked people last year..and last year he was pretty mediocre.
I'm all for getting rid of him...then again, if the Sox keep playing these Bataan Death March ballgames he's probably going to still be employed at least until September.
I'm all for getting rid of him...then again, if the Sox keep playing these Bataan Death March ballgames he's probably going to still be employed at least until September.
I haven't seen a "name" Red Sox pitcher this bad since the rotting corpse of Aaron Cook showed up in 2012.
Why is this guy still here? He's terrible in every way. If they're going to keep losing games like this, at least have Henry Owens or someone take his roster spot so that the kid can get experience. Fister adds nothing. He cost nothing to acquire. Shitcanning him should be the easiest thing in the world to do.
Why is this guy still here? He's terrible in every way. If they're going to keep losing games like this, at least have Henry Owens or someone take his roster spot so that the kid can get experience. Fister adds nothing. He cost nothing to acquire. Shitcanning him should be the easiest thing in the world to do.
Hector Velazquez would need to allow 13 ER over his next 7 2/3 innings in order to match Fister's line. He'd also do it for the league minimum and presumably has a family that could use the money a bit more.
Velazquez seems a bit like Miguel Gonzalez, and I really hope he isn't looked over the same way, as I think he could be a decent swingman on the cheap.
Velazquez seems a bit like Miguel Gonzalez, and I really hope he isn't looked over the same way, as I think he could be a decent swingman on the cheap.
Coincidentally, the Red Sox dumped Miguel Gonzalez and signed Aaron Cook weeks apart.
Hector was sent to Pawtucket on the 19th. I'm hoping when his 10 days are up, he'll be recalled and Fister sent away.
He was fine last night, he just ran out of gas and its not like he was knocked around the park. The game winning hit was a 78 hop dribbler through the middle. They can do better, but they needed extended innings last night and he was the only guy who could go more than 2.
He was not fine. Given a lead this is what he promptly did.
K BB 4-3 1B WP BB 1B
That's absolutely terrible. He's usually a starter; there's absolutely no excuse for "running out of gas." He just sucks. He had a chance to nail down a badly-needed win and completely melted down. He's a bad pitcher and he's pitching badly and he's killed the team and it's time for him to go pitch in Sacramento or Richmond or some other minor league town more suited to his modest and declining talents.
Yankees are 1 GB now, thanks to Fister's meltdown. The Sox are in a crisis situation (6-12 in their last 18) and cannot afford wastes of oxygen like this on the roster. Get him gone.
And a pitch Leon should have blocked. Yes, he's a very bad pitcher. He's been asked to do something he's probably not used to and I was surprised he did as well as he did last night.
Has there been an explanation why he was still out there at ~50 pitches?
Has there been an explanation why he was still out there at ~50 pitches?
He pitched the night before too.
Asking any teams 7th best reliever to throw up 4 goose eggs is just completely unrealistic.
If anything Abad could have been in the game by then and it's more on Farrell.
Base it on his whole tenure fine, but not last night.
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Blaine Boyer will be activated today. Ben Taylor on the DL with what they are saying is an oblique strain.
This might have been why. Still, it was brutal to watch. The offense causing a ton of extra innings is definitely a huge blame factor, but it's time to DFA this guy and try someone else in long relief.
Blaine Boyer will be activated today. Ben Taylor on the DL with what they are saying is an oblique strain.
This might have been why. Still, it was brutal to watch. The offense causing a ton of extra innings is definitely a huge blame factor, but it's time to DFA this guy and try someone else in long relief.
This. Abad, warts and all, is basically a replacement-level pitcher. Fister isn't even that.
Fister pitched pretty damn well last night. Heredia has a flare to right, Leon makes an awful play allowing the run to score and then the soft grounder up the middle finishes the game.
The inning before where he got the heart of the lineup he looked very impressive.
The inning before where he got the heart of the lineup he looked very impressive.
I think they are waiting for Hector Velazquez to be eligible to return to the majors (I think it's the 28th.... 10 days from when he was sent down last) before they send Doug to the boneyard.
Did those walks happen because of a sudden visit from the Walk Fairy?
The guy has a 21/19 K/BB ratio for a reason.
Interesting theory, given that Fister's a starter by nature. I guess, though, given that he sucks he's used to getting pulled after 2.2 innings, so his stamina must be down. I can't wait for his next appearance and inevitable loss, given that no power on earth seems strong enough to get him the hell off the team.
Fister lost velocity after the 2014 season and has been bad to awful since. This year he's throwing a little harder, but shockingly, he can't hit the zone. He's got a 6.0 BB/9 (13% of batters) on the season and hitters have a .382 wOBA against him.
He's toast.
I am in no way saying that Fister isn't toast. He is on his way off the roster at some point and deservedly so.
I'm arguing that the response to how he did last night is unreasonable based on the factors I mentioned in my other posts (pitching the night before, not getting lifted when he was losing it). I'm not sure how many people watched extra innings last night but I did and my impression is that he threw pretty well.
I'm arguing that the response to how he did last night is unreasonable based on the factors I mentioned in my other posts (pitching the night before, not getting lifted when he was losing it). I'm not sure how many people watched extra innings last night but I did and my impression is that he threw pretty well.
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Well the next time Kimbrel or someone walks two batters when holding a 1 run lead in a must-win game and goes on to blow it, I'll be sure to mention how well he pitched.
And Heredia got that hit because the outfield was playing "no doubles" with 2 out and the tying run on 1st. With a straight up defense, the game ends with that ball in play.
(I can't fault the choice to play "no doubles"' there, either.)
he's wily enough to get through the order once. it was a stretch asking him to go more than that.
so yeah, you can argue the loss is more on Farrell not managing that well / the offense not scoring in time.
Blame Farrell if you like for sending Heath Hembree out to start the 7th and give up the Zunino HR. Or blame Hembree for giving up the HR.
Failure is not an orphan for this game.
I don't really know why this is the move. Velazquez and even Beeks have to be better options by default right now.
Bizarre. His continued existence on this roster is a total mystery to me.
I suppose, if you're DD, you're hoping for the upside of what Fister once was, but I see no evidence that upside exists anymore. I see a guy walking 6 people per 9.
Meet the NEW AND IMPROVED FISTER
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Crickets?
Fister will a gem tonight and I agree with the posters on the bullpen outing being a plus effort under the circumstances......pitching night before, over 50 pitches, and a blooper that would have normally ended the game.
This was a big game and Fister came through bigly!
Fister will a gem tonight and I agree with the posters on the bullpen outing being a plus effort under the circumstances......pitching night before, over 50 pitches, and a blooper that would have normally ended the game.
This was a big game and Fister came through bigly!
The real question is whether this represents a real change going forward or is merely a fluke, one which will buy him 4 or 5 more starts of 7.00 ERA pitching. It was great to get an unexpected gem last night but let's hope it's not costly in the long run.
Thanks to the off-days coming up, they can get away without using a fifth starter for a couple weeks. So if last night's Fister was a mirage and he turns back into his pumpkin in his next start (Saturday), they can skip that spot the next couple times through if they want. Next time they'd need a #5 would be Tuesday the 22nd. That gives Price nearly a full month to recover and rehab and take the spot back.
Of course there'd be no way to know unless he pitches.... also, I imagine that this time of year Farrell will be looking to give him starters any extra rest possible.
I still think Valazquez makes more sense and I think Fister is a pumpkin but that was great last night