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ethangl

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It's specifically a warm-up and not a stretch:


Like I said, it's super simple – I saw the video and thought "there's no way that will help." – but a couple sets of about 15 reps per leg (a little slower than the video) made a difference immediately.
 

Jerrygarciaparra

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Hit a crack in the sidewalk while running a couple of days ago. I hit the pavement like a sack of potatoes. Broke my glasses and scraped up both knees. Plus a huge shiner. I fell really lucky. I didn't have time to put my hands up and could hVe ended up with a concussion. Or a mouthful of broken teethImageUploadedBySons of Sam Horn1471042005.646380.jpg
 

Jerrygarciaparra

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I went 7 this morning and felt fine. Although you'd better believe I slowed down anywhere the pavement looked even a little uneven. I think I'll be gun shy for a while
 

SydneySox

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I did a fun run - the City to Surf, 14k that finishes at Bondi Beach, my first run back from the ITB. Hadn't really done much running leading up to it so can't be surprised but I lost 7 minutes off my time from last year, 71 minutes. A pretty terrible run I never enjoyed. My runs coming back haven't included the hill sprints I love and overdid last time and this run has a few, including our own 'heartbreak hill' (which isn't that bad) and they sapped me; I did them fine but after peaking I couldn't get anything out of my legs for a few hundred metres.

Anyway, no knee pain which was the ultimate benefit and really the only thing that mattered. So I'm signed up for the Sydney Half Marathon next month and we'll see how that goes.

Just gotta keep plugging away.
 

rbeaud

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Way behind on my Marathon (Oct. 9th) training, mostly due to 2 weeks off (mostly) for vacation.

Ran 11 yesterday. Got 14 coming up this weekend. Then 16, 18, 20, 12, 8, Game Time.

I was up to 14 before vacation in early August, so it's not that bad. But still. Mileage amping up. I swore I wouldn't have a mid-summer lull this year, but life gets in the way.
I've read that two weeks off will result in a 10% loss in anaerobic efficiency. With various injuries over the years, it feels like that is a good approximation of what is "lost". I wouldn't sweat it. Definitely avoid any need to compensate for the lost training by doing more than necessary.

Good luck...I'm forgetting your marathon, so wherever it is, enjoy the experience. I've had a great 10M (RI) and crappy Half (Dublin, IRL) this summer. Hoping to finish on a high note in December (MS) before Boston.
 

Leather

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Aw, thanks Syd.

I might sign up for a trail half after my race.
 

Leather

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I ran 14 miles at 5 AM and now I'm at work and it's gonna be a long day.
 

Leather

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Yeah it sucks but shit's gotta get done.

(Had a kid's school meeting after work)
 

Jerrygarciaparra

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Also food can upset my stomach when I run, or give me heartburn. If I go first thing in the morning it's not a problem, although I do like a cup of coffee before I go
 

SydneySox

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I know a lot of people do. I just really enjoy an afternoon run. Really sets me up for a relaxing evening, and especially if it's after work, wipes away any of the day's stress.

edit: I run home from work. I have a lot more difficulty getting home and then going out, on a weekday, so I always organise to make it my commute. It's a nice run for me across the Harbour Bridge and past the Opera House and about 12km if I go straight. In the end it takes about the same time, too.
 

MB's Hidden Ball

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I know a lot of people do. I just really enjoy an afternoon run. Really sets me up for a relaxing evening, and especially if it's after work, wipes away any of the day's stress.

edit: I run home from work. I have a lot more difficulty getting home and then going out, on a weekday, so I always organise to make it my commute. It's a nice run for me across the Harbour Bridge and past the Opera House and about 12km if I go straight. In the end it takes about the same time, too.
Do you run by Charlton pool? I always enjoyed running by that place.

Edit: and by "always" I mean the half dozen times that I had an opportunity to run in Sydney. So..not often, I guess.
 

SydneySox

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Yep! That's part of that loop. It's on most of my standard long city runs. Beautiful part of the world, with navy base over the and the pool on the bay.
 

sonofgodcf

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No that's awesome. People rave about Central Park in NYC, but I feel like that's just the only place NYers can run so they overrate it horribly. Like, no sane person would prefer Central Park to THAT.

Hell, while we're sharing, here's a view from my morning run (and late evening, more or less) route, in Minneapolis.
Central Park is a great place to run, but it's certainly not the only place in NYC (nor is it the best). Anything over the bridges (I'm partial to Manhattan, but Williamsburg is great and Brooklyn if you can do it during off hours is amazing) beats Central Park by a ton. An underrated spot is along Shore Parkway in Brooklyn. I do out and backs on my long runs and get to finish with views of the Statue of Liberty and the south end of Manhattan.

...A bit off topic, but does anyone have any book recommendations for running? Not necessarily training focused (though I'll take those too), but books along the lines of Men of Oregon or Duel in the Sun. I manage a running store in the city and want to build a library for my team.
 

SydneySox

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Do you run by Charlton pool? I always enjoyed running by that place.

Edit: and by "always" I mean the half dozen times that I had an opportunity to run in Sydney. So..not often, I guess.
I took a photo for you last night. Didn't want to slow down too long so I didn't get the other side with the Navy ships but here you go to make you remember:



and this was what the harbour looked like on my way back through as the sun dipped out in the west:

 

MB's Hidden Ball

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That's it! It was a fantastic place to run, and I always thought that the pool was cool-looking. Those are (outrageously expensive) apartments on that pier, correct?

We used to head out to the Navy yard while they were getting ready to move everything over to Bungendore.
 

rbeaud

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I've got no pretty pictures. Just noting that Boston registration opened today. Hoping my BQ-5:37 holds up better than BQ-1:40 did last year.
 

TallerThanPedroia

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Given the heat at Boston this year (which was the same temperature as my chilly run this morning), and the heat all summer, most of the number crunchers are predicting a small cutoff, or maybe no cutoff at all. Here's one.

The last chance qualifier races seem to have been various degrees of disasters:

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/sports/6071023-181/boston-marathon-wont-accept-affected?gallery=6028117

http://www.mcall.com/news/local/mc-theres-a-train-in-my-marathon-20160912-story.html

Lehigh is where I first qualified so now I feel quite lucky. That train thing used to happen in Boston in Framingham.

I admit I'd be a little nervous if I had to rely on my 58 second cushion from Boston, but my Chicago from last fall gives me more than eight minutes so I get to register safely on Friday.
 

GreenMountain

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I have been debating Boston 2017. This year was tough. I was convinced I would PR after 3 months of rigorous training and a substantial increase in fitness. Then some combination of the heat and fueling errors caught up with me on the hills and I finished a minute slower than the year before. This summer has been rough with injuries and unrelenting heat. But now the cool weather is in sight. And it's Boston. So yeah, I'll be registering on Friday morning.

Also, my favorite 10 mile training loop looks like this sometimes. So there's that.

 

SydneySox

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Great work man. And that's an awesome photo, @GreenMountain.

Half this weekend, still running through the ITB which is weird because it is always there, post run, but everything I'm doing like stretching and rolling and strength work, and that awesome hip adductor thing posted by @ethangl up above seems to be keeping it from being an issue. It's bittersweet, this is the marathon course that passes my house and I always look out at it and say 'this year that'll be me' and this year it was going to be, if not for my ITB overtraining. The half stops halfway and doesn't go by the house. Oh well, maybe next year.
 

rbeaud

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Got my 18 miler done last night. 20 this weekend then taper for Twin Cities.

Still unsure what my target time should be. Obviously it will be weather dependent (and the weather here has been all fucked up this summer, so who knows). Probably aim for 3:20 with 3:30 as my minimum "Success" time.

I just don't know if I am going to do this again next year. Might take a year off. Anybody take a year off from marathons (but still ran and did halfs or other mid-length races) and then go back? How was it?

I'd love to qualify for Boston within the next 3 years or so, but I just don't know. Might have to wait until the kids are older.
So you are considering running consistently without training for a marathon? I would say you will be fine. Adding a few halves is bonus.

I used to run exclusively for 5ks. About 30 +/- 5 miles per week. I did my first full within six months of committing to a half and a full. My opinion is keeping up with running on a regular basis will be all you need.
 

SydneySox

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Great for what I wanted, which was to finish injury free! With my limited training and and lack of speed work thanks to that ITB I was trying to beat 120, which I did, at 106. I was with the 100 minute pacer all the way, just couldn't catch the bastard.
 

SydneySox

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They are, mostly, though it's still nagging. As I walked home along the marathon route I watched all those people and just knew I had to be out there doing the real run later. Coming through strong made me very focused on doing the work over summer to be doing a full. I will probably join a group.

Good luck with yours.
 

Leather

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Maybe I'll watch "Gallipoli" to get inspired.

Oh, wait. Maybe not.