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Dustin Pedroia: 29 years old putting up a 130 OPS+ and a WAR for 4.0 playing 2B.  Not sure what else I could ask for out of my franchise's first pick.  FWAR: 3.5
 
Jered Weaver: Not performing as close to the level I would have liked out of my second round pick.  His H/9 rate is 1.7 more than career average, his K/9 rate is almost a full point below his career average, and his ERA+ is 26 points below his career average.  Additionaly his F-Strike% rate is down 8% from his career numbers.  In hindsight I probably should have gone for a second bat here instead of reaching for a pitcher knowing there were nearly 60 picks between the Weaver selection and my next pick.  FWAR: 0.9
 
B.J. Upton:  Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is all the Wibis can think about Upton right now.  We are just glad we arent stuck paying his contract this year.  The Wibi's still believe that Upton can turn things around as his June numbers were tracking towards the more favorable.  Hiswalk rate was a robust 16.5%, his strikeout rate dropped to 24.3%, and he ended up with an .812 OPS backed by four homers and four steals.  FWAR: -0.1
 
Mike Moustakas:  Like Upton, Moustakas has struggled mightily in 2013 and like Upton he showed signs that he might be turning things around in June.  The major thing that the Wibi's like about Moustakas is that his LD rate in June was 21.7% even though he hasnt hit a HR since early May.  FWAR: -0.4
 
Wilin Rosario: Rosario is performing exactly as hoped for a 23 year old, 5th round pick.  He strikes out more and walks less than the Wibi's would like but given this is only his 3 year in the MLB and each year has shown improvements in the K and BB rate the Wibi's arent too concerned.  FWAR: 1.3
 
Zack Cozart:  Cozart is in his second full year at the MLB level and is performing adequately.  He's 27 years old which makes him unlikely to show dramatic improvements but he's got good pop and is an acceptable fielder.  Probably a reach for the Wibi's in the 6th round but we dont regret selecting Cozart.  FWAR: 0.8
 
Marco Estrada: Estrada hasnt had the breakout year that was expected for this 7th round pick.  Estrada's GB% is increasing but so is his HR/9 rate.  Estrade has an ERA nearly 1.5 points higher than his xERA and the Wibi's expect him to turn it around during the second half of 2013 and into the future. FWAR: 0.0
 
Jason Hammel:  Hammel supposedly added a sinker to his repiroire but it hasnt been effective in 2013 as his GB% is down nearly 10 points from his 2012 season.  Hammel hasnt sucked but he hasnt been the 8th round value the Wibi's were expecting given where he was taken in this draft.  FWAR: 0.4
 
Wily Peralta: Peralta isnt getting people to chase his pitches in 2013 like he did in 2012 and its hurting his ability to get outs. His LOB% is down nearly 20 points and his xERA is up nearly a full point compared to 2012.  His 2013 release point is all over the map and the reports of him having a hamstring issue are probably true.  Not the 2013 the Wibi's were hoping for but Peralta is only 23 and the furture is still bright for him.  FWAR: 0.3
 
Coco Crisp: Crisp has shown to be a great value for his 10th round selection.  His BABIP is down but his BB% is up and his K% is down which points to Crisp being very smart at the plate.  The Wibi's could have not asked for a better 10th round value than what Crisp has provided.  FWAR: 1.7
 
Drew Stubbs: Stubbs has been a plesant surprise in 2013 but has not performed near enought to his 2010 and 2011 levels for the Wibi's to have the value we were hoping for.  The major change in 2013 is that Stubbs hasnt been stealing bases at nearly the rate he did in 2010 and 2011 and as a result his RS are down.  FWAR: 1.4
 
Jake Arrieta: Arrieta was recently traded to the Cubs and the Wibi's are hoping that the change of league treats him well.  His K/9 rate is the same it was in 2012 but his BB/9 rate has tripled while his GB% is down a 10 points.  He's only 26 so the Wibi's arent ready to give up on his long term success just yet.  FWAR: 0.2
 
Chris Iannetta: His defense has dropped off a bit but otherwise Iannetta is doing exactly what the Wibi's expected him to.  FWAR: 0.9
 
Justin Smoak: When healthy Smoak has been tearing the cover off the ball in a stadium where thats harder than average todo.  Smoak is another player that the Wibi's believe still has a breakout in him and are willing to give him time to see how well he performs.FWAR: 0.6
 
Alex Presley: Presley was optioned to AAA in late June after struggling since his early June callup.  Not much to see here currently.  FWAR: -0.1
 
Tyler Clippard: Clippard is lucky to not be being used more often as all his advanced metrics show him as not the pitcher he was in 2011 or 2012.  Clippard would be closing for the Wibi's but he might also have been demoted to setup similar to his current situation in Washington.  FWAR: 0.2
 
Robbie Ross: Ross has provided great value for the Wibi's given his 17th round selection.  His strand rate is higher than normal and his GB% is lower but everything else he has done has been great.  FWAR: 0.9
 
Roger Bernadina: Bernadina was drafted to be a bench player and that frankly is all he is worth right now.  He's BB% is down and his K% is up.  The only thing to like is that his BABIP is abnormally low which means some upward movement is expected.  FWAR: 0.0
 
Tim Federowicz: Given he was the 3rd catcher the Wibi's selected he wasnt needed to perform in 2013; And thats a good thing since he hasnt done squat with his bat in 2013.  He was never drafted to hit but drafted to be an above average defensive catcher and all signs point to that still being very likely to happen.  FWAR: -0.1
 
Sergio Santos: Santos should have been thrown off the mound by July 1 but there have been no reports of how he is healing after having his elbow cleaned out in mid-May.  FWAR: ---
 
Adam Ottavino: Ottavino has been an above average bullpen arm.  Cant ask for much more than that from this 21st round pick.  FWAR: 0.5
 
Jeremy Guthrie: Started the season strong but by mid-May was back to his old ways.  Back of the rotation guy is the best that could be hoped for and thats probably all Guhtrie will ever be worth.  FWAR: -0.5
 
Jose Tabata: Made the MLB rosters out of spring training which was not fully expected given the OF logjam in PIT.  Tabata is only 24 years old even though he has been playing professional baseball since 2006.  Not much else to see or say at this point.  FWAR: 0.1
 
Yamaico Navarro: Meh. Needs to actually spend a season or two at AAA to get some stability but he is currently 25 and probably will only end up being a career AAAA player.  Took a flyer in the 24th round and it hasnt paid off. FWAR: -0.1
 
Cristhian Martinez: Been dealing with shoulder issues for most of 2013 and has only pitched in 5 games total.  Another late round flyer who hasnt paid off yet.  FWAR: --- 
 
Overall thoughts:
 
Hitters:  Could be better and could be worse.  I've got a semi-solid lineup that is young enough that the core players will be together for a few years.  I didnt draft the hitters to be great this year but to build towards the 2014/2015 season and they are performing as such.
 
Pitching:  Shoot me now then shoot my pitchers please.   My best SP has an FWAR of 0.9 ... and my BP isnt much better ...
 

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1. Bryce Harper - 153 wRC+ and a .929 OPS.  I'm happy with him as my first pick, though he was a no doubter.
 
2. Ben Zobrist - Off to a slow start this season.  He warmed up for a while in June, but has been awful the last weeks.  I'm sitting him in my fantasy leagues and am shaking my head at the use of a second round pick on him.
 
3. Cliff Lee - Every bit the ace I drafted him to be.
 
4. David Freese - Slow start to the season but has come around since April.  A 114 wRC+ is much lower than I want out of him, but that is almost entirely his April numbers weighing him down.  125 in May, 144 in June.
 
5. Trevor Cahill - Started off the year pretty well but has gotten worse with each month.  Overall he's been a disappointment so far.
 
6. Edwin Jackson - Peripherals look much better than his results (FIP and xFIP vs ERA) but the results just aren't there.
 
7. Shane Victorino - Shane has been fun to root for this year as a Sox fan and while he's looked good in the field, the bat just hasn't quite been there.  It's not awful, but it's not what I was hoping it would be with a 97 wRC+ coming into tonight's game.  He's also been banged up or injured more than I want to see.
 
8. Stephen Drew - I was betting on Drew having a healthy productive season.  If we were trusting fWAR after a half season, I'd point out he's 12th in the majors at short stop, but we're not, so I'll just point to his 92 wRC+ being 11th best in the majors at his position and say I'm not thrilled with him but that he's not killing me either.  He's about average for short if you go with the eyeball test at short defensively and combine that with the bat.  I'll take it, considering how thin the short stop position was by the time I came around to this pick.
 
9. AJ Elis - He is what I thought he was... is... I drafted him to be an above average catcher at getting on base and he sports the 6th best OBP for his position in the majors.  He's not spectacular, and his power isn't impressive at all, but he's doing what I picked him to do, so I can't complain.
 
10. Adam Dunn - I wanted some home run power with Dunn.  That's literally all I'm getting out of him.  23 home runs but only a 109 wRC+.  I was hoping for a bit more OBP... Okay, fine, a lot more OBP.  Oh well.  At least he's hitting a home run when he's not striking out or grounding into a double play.
 
11. Shaun Marcum - I picked Marcum thinking his elbow might explode.  Instead, his central nervous system burst into flames.  When he's been on the mound, his peripherals have been good but his results (read: ERA) have been poor.  He just had another MRI for the same issue he had in spring training.  This is looking like a wasted pick.
 
12. Brett Wallace - I'll admit it.  I was hoping I was getting a diamond in the ruff with Wallace.  Instead, he got demoted in April.  He hit the snot out of the ball in AAA, so I guess I can hang my hat on that and hope it means he'll start producing at the major league level, but as of right now, this pick has given me nothing.  He was called back up in late June.  Maybe when we look at this in another couple of months I'll be able to say something more positive than "He's hitting AAA pitchers well!"
 
13. Mike Leake - Leake was my rotation insurance and one of my 8th inning guys.  In real life, he's started 16 games, has an excellent ERA and solid peripherals to back it up.  I'd probably have pulled the plug on either Jackson or Marcum by now and had Leake starting, which weakens my pen, but he's been a good pick for me.  Versatility and production is a great combo.
 
14. Casey Jannsen - My closer has not disappointed.  2.67 ERA, 2.55 FIP and a 3.22 xFIP.  His k/9 is down a touch but he's still not walking anyone and his home run rate has been unreal.  He's due to regress on that, though.  Even still, he's been exactly what I was hoping for and I'm quite happy with this pick.
 
15. DJ Lemahieu - Has a 92 wRC+ with a solid .348 OBP.  He's about what I was hoping for.
 
16. Jeff Francoeur - He's been awful.  His wife, while hot, is not hot enough to compensate for the level of suck that Jeff has left in his wake.  This pick was an awful decision.
 
17. Joe Saunders - Saunders has been about what I was hoping for; a decent back of the rotation guy.  He's made 17 starts and chewed up 100 and 1/3 innings so far and done it with a 4.74 ERA, a 4.66 FIP and a 4.35 xFIP.  I'll take it and be just fine with it.
 
18. Scot Hairston - He's been as bad as Francoeur.  My outfield is a fucking mess.
 
19. Andrew Bailey - He's striking out a ton of people.  That's it.  There is nothing else nice to say about him.  He's walking over 4 per 9 and his FIP and xFIP aren't pretty.  Neither is his ERA.  Since he's my set up guy, my pen is in a bit of trouble.
 
20. Robert Andino - Another disappointment.  He's been worse at the plate than Francoeur.  Yikes.
 
21. Louis Coleman - Unfortunately, he's spent most of the year in AAA.  He's been solid in the 4 games he's pitched in, but there's really nothing here to report on.
 
22. Christian Garcia - Not only has he not logged a single inning in the majors this year, but he's been fucking awful in the minors.  Okay, maybe that's a bit harsh, but he's walked a bunch of batters in both AA and AAA.  He's still striking out a ton of people, but the walk rate is concerning.  I'm not optimistic that I'll be looking back fondly about this pick.
 
23. Joe Thatcher - At this point in the season, he'd have supplanted Bailey as my primary setup man.  2.28 ERA, 2.81 FIP and a 3.20 xFIP.  At least the back end of my pen is solid.
 
24. Bobby Wilson - Hasn't played an inning in the majors this year and is sporting a .661 OPS in AAA.  I didn't expect him to hit, as he's a defensive catcher, but wow has his bat been awful.  It's a good thing Ellis gets on base, because Wilson does the opposite of that.
 
25. Randy Choate - This is a surprise.  Choate has been excellent so far with a 2.00 ERA, a 2.84 FIP and a 3.86 xFIP.  Seems like he's due for some regression, but he gives my pen a third option that isn't terrible and allows me to move Bailey to my 4th option.
 
Overall: This team is performing much worse than I was hoping it it would.  I have three outfielders who are worth putting into the lineup, including Zobrist.  So I'm not in awful shape there, but aside from Harper, there's not much to get excited about there. I'm in decent shape in the infield once you get past the fact that I don't have a first baseman.  LeMahieu, Drew and Freese are all producing enough for me to be comfortable, but Wallace might as well be a cardboard cut out of Jose Canseco in the box.  And I mean Canseco today, not Canseco in the early 90's.  I'm happy at catcher, though my DH is the definition of a true outcome hitter.  And he's just not hitting the ball out enough to make up for the lack of production in his plate appearances where he doesn't.  I have a solid outfield and an about average infield on balance, if Freese's producing in May and June is an indication of what he'll do going forward.
 
My pitching is in better shape than I thought it was when I started this post.  At this point I'm looking at Lee, Leake, Cahill, Jackson and Saunders with Jackson needing to get his ERA more in line with his FIP and xFIP for that rotation to be good enough for this team to compete head to head with the better teams in the league.  My bullpen looks really good at the back end with Jannsen, Thatcher and Choate, but I need Bailey to figure it out if I'm going to hold any leads in the second half and have no depth so my good arms will tire out by the time the season ends.
 
I'm guessing if we were actually running these teams and playing these games, I'd be near the bottom of my division currently and would need a good run in the next couple of weeks to convince myself that we aren't sellers at the deadline.  A few things have gone really right but too many have gone badly for this team to have been terribly competitive in the first half.
 

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Wow, my team is.... not in good shape.
 
1. Jason Heyward: Beginning to look like an offensive Josh Beckett, good every other year.  This year, he is sporting a .225/.323/.361 with six home runs and one steal.    A WAR of 0.6 is not what you want out of your #1 pick in an exercise like this, but he is only 23 so there is plenty of time to improve.  Hasn't been lighting the world on fire defensively, either, with a slightly below average (and admittedly SSS) 2.12 RF/G and only 1 outfield assist (down from 11 last year, though could be a product of people just not running on him anymore).  At this point, he may be the worst first round pick in the draft.  (Conclusion: Unhappy but hopeful)
 
2. Gio Gonzalez: Gio is pretty close to what I thought he would be at this point: a bit of a reach, but a solid pitcher for the most part.  ERA+ of 120, but his HR/9 and BB/9 rates have gone up, but he is still a 2.4 K/BB pitcher.  On pace for close to 200 innings and 200 K's, and would have more wins to his name if the Nats offense hadn't regressed so badly this year.  Also, he is averaging over 6 IP per start, which I think is pretty good for the bullpen.  (Conclusion: Slightly disappointed, but not unexpectedly)
 
3. Mark Trumbo: Trumbo looks like he should finish in the mid-30's for home runs this year, even though his strikeout rate continues to climb.  He is scoring more runs this year, and looks to be on pace for another 90+ RBI season, and has proven to be a versatile and mostly effective defender.  If he can cut down even a little on the K's and get his average up just slightly, he is going to be a very good middle of the order bat. (Conclusion: Overall pretty happy with this pick)
 
4. Jose Altuve: And here's the first pick I got truly shit on for.  And the 23 year old Altuve is leading the league in..... caught stealing.   Shit.  Seriously, though, he is putting up a line of .287/.323/.366, and even though these are all slightly down from last year I am confident that the kid will improve going forward.  He has continued to be about league average on defense, and is one of very few reason to watch the Astros (there's my backhanded compliment quota for the day).  (Conclusion: Excited.... for the future)
 
5. Jeremy Hellickson: Hellickson is my first real instance of getting burned for looking at ERA and ignoring FRA.  To be fair, he had consistently out-pitched his FRA and FIP, and both his K/9 and BB/9 rates have improved this year, and his HR/9 rate has gone down as well.  Somehow, his ERA has risen from 3.10 to 4.67, but his record has improved from 10-11 to 8-3 this year.  I mean this is just a weird regression all the way around.  His peripherals actually show a better pitcher this year in just about every category, and yet his overall results have gotten 1.5 runs worse.  (Conclusion: I honestly don't know how to grade this one)
 
6. Mike Fiers: This one is much easier to grade than Hellickson.  Fiers has pitched well.... in the minors.  Sporting a 7.25 ERA (56 ERA+) and a FIP and FRA that pretty much mirror that, Fiers looks like the first pick I can truly call a bust, and at 28 I don't really expect to be able to change that sentiment.  I picked him because he had had a light workload for an older guy, with decent numbers, and what it looks like is that I was totally fooled by SSS, as he isn't even a viable bullpen arm at this point.  (Conclusion: WTF was I thinking?)
 
7. Michael Brantley: Brantley has quietly been an effective outfielder both offensively and defensively.  His range has been lacking a bit, but he has made up for it with 7 assists from the outfield.  A line of .278/.329/.371 is slightly down from last season, and right in line with his career average.  Not quite the breakout I wanted so far, but he is still 26.  He is stealing more bases, and getting caught less, but has not come close to the double output I was expecting at this point.  (Conclusion: About what I expected)
 
8. Ruben Tejada: I wouldn't say Tejada has been a complete disappointment, but, well, he has.  The 23 year old has regressed in nearly every part of his game, both defensively and offensively, and is struggling to stay above a .200 batting average.  Other than Heyward's regression, this one has been the most surprising to me so far, as he had two years of solid production and improvement as a 21 and 22 year old.  He can still turn it around, but at this moment he has been the exact opposite of what I was hoping he would be. (Conclusion: Major reach, but still time to turn it around).
 
9. JP Arencibia: Apparently, Arencibia uses a thinner bat than the rest of the league.  That's my excuse.  When he hits the ball, it goes a long way.  Unfortunately he strikes out nearly a third of the time.  15 HRs on and 13 doubles on 63 hits is a bit silly (though I honestly don't know where to go to find out if having 44% of your hits be for extra bases is above or below league average), and his CS% has regressed to 21%, though I like to pretend that some of that has to do with catching RA Dickey.  In any case, a .248 OBP is unacceptable from a top-10 pick, and I obviously made a mistake with this one.  (Conclusion: Bad call, even with players starting to get thin at this point)
 
10. Adam LaRoche: I closed out the top 10 with my first player over 30, looking to add some power and OBP into my lineup, and while he hasn't lit the world on fire, LaRoche has continued to be a solid major league player.  His average has dipped a little, but his OBP continues to be .344 (slightly above his career average), and he looks to be able to challenge for another 20 HR season (although his 33 from last year appears to be in the past).  He will not finish in the top 6 of the MVP vote again, but he appears to be pretty good value at this point. (Conclusion: As expected)
 
11. Kyle Kendrick: At this point I would have been happy taking Kendrick in round 6 when I picked Fiers.  He is striking out less batters, but also walking far fewer, and he looks to be a guy who will put up a mid-3's ERA.  FIP and FRA don't love him, but he hasn't outpitched them by so much that it appears to be an aberration.  He has already had 12 QS's this year, and is averaging over 6.5 IP per outing.  (Conclusion: Better than expected)
 
12. Drew Pomeranz: I don't even really want to talk about this one.  I expected the 24 year old to break out this year, and he has barely been able to get out of AAA, starting for Colorado only this past week and not well at that.  Even in AAA he has had an ERA of over 4, even though his control seems to have improved, and he is striking out more batters.  Whether that will ever translate at the major league level remains to be seen, but no matter what, 12 was way to high to be taking Pomeranz.  (Conclusion: This might even be a worse pick than Fiers.... holy shit)
 
13. Pedro Ciriaco: He is what we thought he is, a reliable utility infielder with some speed and not great defense.  Good team player, selected too early, and not good enough to start.  (Conclusion: Just got antsy needing an infielder... he isn't it.)
 
14. Ernesto Frieri: I grabbed Frieri to be my closer, and while he hasn't been as unhittable as in the past, he has converted 21 of 23 save opportunities, even though he is walking a lot more batters than in the past.  (Conclusion: Solid bullpen anchor)
 
15. Jarrod Dyson: Regression.  SLG way up, OBP way down, will not get the 30 steals I was hoping for this year, but mostly due to playing time.... not that he has earned it.  Might see an uptick in playing time now that Francoeur has been DFA'd, so we will see how the rest of the season goes.  (Conclusion: A little too early to tell, but there are a lot of backups on my team)
 
16.  Eric O'Flaherty: Was exactly the setup man I hoped for, until he blew his elbow out.  Done for the season, and likely not ready until the middle of next year. (Conclusion: Good pick, bad luck)
 
17. Bobby Parnell: Parnell has been a solid reliever, with an ERA+ of 2.56.  Very good setup man, would be part of a great bullpen if not for O'Flaherty getting hurt. (Conclusion: Better than I expected)
 
18. Joaquin Arias: The epitome of "Meh", Arias has seen 107 PA's, mostly as a PH, and put up a .280/.301/.318 line.  Maybe if he learned to walk every now and then he would see more playing time.  Has struggled in the field, and provides backup utility infielder support in case Ciriaco goes down.  Yup.  (Conclusion: Why did I pick him?  I don't know.  But I am going to have the deepest backup infielder core in the league, even if all of them suck)
 
19. Lou Marson: Wha is a Lou Marson, you ask?  Well, It's a guy who has 23 PA's in AA and AAA this year, and has gotten on base 3 times.  Not an acceptable backup for my already best used as backup catcher.  I'm starting to think I did a bad job at this. (Conclusion: Puke)
 
20. Jose Mijares: If nothing else, my bullpen is full of quality arms.  Mijares sports an ERA+ of 142, and a K/BB rate of 3.44 in 33 appearances.  That said, his H/9 and WHIP have both gone way up, so I have a feeling it is just a matter of time before his overall numbers don't look so good.  (Conclusion: Good pick for where he is, we will see how it holds up going forward)
 
21. Luis Avilan: Apparently, I should take over as the Sox Relief pitching scout.  Avilan has been very good this year, with a 260 ERA+, even though he has a K/9 of less than 5.  At 23 years old, though, he will hopefully provide quality innings for a long time. (Conclusion: Probably my best late inning pick of the draft.  He is a reliever, so that really says something about my team, I think.... and it isn't good)
 
22. Rafael Ortega: Ortega was a major late round flier for me, with only 6 big league PA's.  I didn't expect him to be called back up at this point, but I also didn't expect him to be hitting .228/.315/.297 in AA either.  That said, he is only 22 and has time to improve.  (Conclusion: Too early to tell, but not providing anything right now)
 
23. Evan Scribner: Scribner appears to be my first relief bust, with a 5.30 ERA in 18 innings, but as volatile as bullpen arms are, that is too small of a sample size to give up on him, especially since he has sported a 1.83 ERA in AAA this year.  (Conclusion: Not really sue, but he is another guy not providing anything for the team right now)
 
24. Brandon Snyder: Who knows how good he really is right now, but he has shown pop and defense in his limited time in the majors.  I don't know how long he will stay up for, and he needs to get some walks, but at 26 he looks like he might actually have a future, and it is hard to ask for more than that out of a 24th round pick on a team like mine. (Conclusion: On a build for the future team like mine, I think he fits in pretty nicely in this slot)
 
25. Mike Hessman: Another all-power, no-contact bat, Hessman has 18 home runs in AAA for Cincinnati this year, but has struck out 84 times and sports a .243 average.  At 35 years old, he will likely never see significant playing time in the majors.  (Conclusion: Major mistake with my last pick, as he will provide nothing now, nor in the future when some of my younger players hopefully grow into decent players.... oops)
 
Final Grades:
Starting Pitching: C+/B- If Hellickson can get back to a sup-4.00 pitcher, I have a good top 3, but both Fiers and Pomeranz are significant busts at this point.
 
Relief Pitching: B+/A- Five very good bullpen arms, though hopefully O'Flaherty will come back strong next year.  Should be able to win some come from behind games, and hang onto the rare leads this team will get.
 
Catcher: D Arencibia just isn't as good as I had hoped, and Marson will likely never be a major league catcher.
 
Infield: D The right side is okay, with LaRocha and Altuve, but as of now Tejada is a huge flop at SS and I don't have a starting third baseman, with Ciriaco and Arias both simply role players, though Snyder could improve this spot at some point
 
Outfield: C I expect Heyward to come around eventually, and if Dyson can do something with his playing time I have a decent mix of power and speed, but Ortega is not close to ready and Hessman never will be, so I need a lot out of my top 3 OFers
 
Overall D+/C- Lot's of reaches, and the players who I thought were not reaches just haven't lived up to expectation.  I missed out on a lot of guys in the 6-12 round range due to trying to fill holes too early instead of taking good players who were available, and picking Fiers in the 6th round may be the worst pick overall in the draft.  My team is young, so there is still time, but as of right now we are definitely a cellar dweller.
 

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I like how my 4th round pick is starting for the NL in the All-Star game, I hate that my 5th round pick is back in AAA.  I am happy with some of my picks and I think my team would be competitive for a playoff spot if this was real.
 

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Not enough time for a long write up but...(in pick order within categories)
 
YES! these guys help me score runs
Miguel Cabrera might be the AL MVP and if he's not, he's finishing second. 
Chris Davis might be having a better year than Cabrera. 
Nelson Cruz hasn't yet been suspended for PEDs and is hitting behind Miggy & Davis in this lineup. 
 
YES! these guys know how to get outs
Matt Moore looks like a very good candidate to be the Rays #1 playoff starter some time in the next five years.
Chris Perez has been solid.
Travis Wood has been a winning lottery ticket.
Josh Collmenter is a vulture in my hypothetical bullpen.
Edward Mujica has been a rocky steady late inning warrior.
Boone Logan has been dependably solid.
Dylan Axelrod has eaten innings. 
 
MAYBE, just maybe there's hope here
Michael Pineda hasn't made it all the way back, but he still be a success story. 
Martin Perez...ditto.
Jake Odorizzi - I'm not overreacting to 18 bad innings. Yet.
 
EH these guys haven't been great but they aren't actively sabotaging the team's chances of winning
Asdrubal Cabrera, Denard Span, Devin Mesoraco, Justin Morneau, Sean Rodriguez, Austin Romine, Julio Borbon
 
#$#@ing non-contributors
Dustin Ackley, Ricky Romero, Alex Rodriguez, Mitchell Boggs, Juan Pierre
 
Overall
Am I crazy or is this one of those "surprising contender" teams? The team OBP is average, even with the EH guys being EH because Cabrera-Davis would be putting up runs, especially later in games that Moore, Wood and Axelrod have kept close? With the potential to add two impact arms (Pineda & Perez) and possibly Odorizzi too?
 
Ackley looks like an epic, monumental bust. So does Romero who looks like a guy does just before he starts getting non-roster invites to ST. Arod is Arod...I think he'll serve a suspension, force his way back to NY, sulk, pout, cause a distraction and demand playing time to hit home runs. Truth be told, the schadenfreude of having Arod around is most of why I drafted him. Boggs blew up, Pierre is washed up. I suppose some could say Morneau belongs in the crap category but he's been passable.
 

SMU_Sox

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My team only has 5 guys who will play a definite spot on the diamond. A lot of the guys I got have positional flexibility.
 
You all know how I feel about fWAR. I'll throw it out there for reference. I am however going to also use wRC+ which I think is a better way of evaluating players so far this year. I will say unsustainable/sustainable if a guy's BABIP or LD% is crazy.
 
SS: Troy Tulowitzki: He's fine - just some broken ribs. But a 3.5 fWAR with good defense and a 160 wRC+... yeah he's exactly what I wanted w/ my 1st round pick. Still stoked I got him at pick 17.
1B: James Loney: Great defense with a completely unsustainable 132 wRC+. 2.2 fWAR. I think he qualifies as a steal. I got him in Round 21.
2B/3B: Jedd Gyorko: 116 wRC+ in his first year in the majors.   .272/.330/.440 with a an ISO of .169. He truly has a bright future. 1.4 fWAR. Decent defense - somewhere around average. At 3B he could be a plus defender. I'd probably give him the most time there.
2B: One of Chris Getz, Eduardo Escobar, or Johnny Giavotella. None of these guys are good options. I fully expect a black hole here. Defensively Getz is probably my best option. 
 
C: Alex Avila. 59 wRC+ w/ a fantastic .228 BABIP and .116 ISO. He still walks over 12% of the time but his OBP is .279 due to his .177 BA. His HR/FB is the highest since 2009, he is hitting over 21% line drives. He is superbly snake bitten. It is true that his GB/FB ratio has been creeping up every year and he seems to be making more weak contact this year. But I think he can turn it around. My other catcher, Sandy Leon is at AAA. He also walks a lot and has a terrible BABIP. Leon has amazing defense though and probably would be splitting time with Avila on my squad.
 
DH/UTIL/OF/1B: I have 2 guys who can do this: Michael Cuddyer and Kyle Blanks. Cuddyer has a ridiculous 150 wRC+ fueled by a .366 BABIP. His wRC+ on the road is 140 and even if you take his road BABIP from .347 to say .300 his wRC+ is still above 120. For a guy who would play DH or a corner OF position that's pretty good. His fWAR is irrelevant at 1.8 because I would be playing him at DH more often than not.
Kyle Blanks: 108 wRC+ w/ slightly above average defense. As a super util guy that's great. 0.8 fWAR so far.
 
OF: Gardner/Joyce/Reddick. 
Gardner: Top 5 defensive OF starter in MLB. His wRC+ is 108 and looks sustainable. That plus his D in CF makes him a very valuable asset. His current fWAR is 2.7.
Reddick: 81 wRC+ which is driven by a shit BABIP from playing in Oakland. His D is fantastic. His fWAR is laughable at 1.4. It's all base running and fielding which is... um... yeah - see my note about why I hate fWAR.
Joyce: Currently at wRC+ of 115 but has had crappy BABIP luck. He's probably a 120 wRC+ guy when his BABIP ticks up. Still, he's solidly above average offensively and about average defensively. He is a bit of a platoon guy but that's ok.
 
I'll have 2 black holes with C and whoever plays 2B and Reddick has been meh but 6 or 7 out of the 9 guys have wRC+'s above 100.
 
160 - Tulo
150 - Cuddyer
132 - Loney
116 - Gyorko
115 - Joyce
108 - Gardner
81 - Reddick
59 - Avila
50ish - Escobar/Getz/Giavotella
 
Pitching:
 
Darvish: 3.0 fWAR, 68 xFIP-, and an 11.84 K/9. Ace.
Jaime Garcia: He pitched well but is out for the year w/ shoulder surgery. He was a good #2 guy in his first 9 starts.
Jeff Niemann: Didn't pitch at all before a shoulder injury required surgery. That sucked.
Juan Nicasio: He has a 1.2 fWAR but he sucks. If you look at all his peripherals he sucks. His swinging strike rate, around 6%, sucks. His K/9 at 6, sucks. His walk rate at 3, sucks. His IP/per start at around 5 sucks. He's a #5 starter. He really needs to get back to where he was 2 years ago.
Chris Archer: Smokeshow. His ERA is low but his xFIP and FIP are high. The guy is benefiting from an unsustainably low BABIP at .238 and a slightly higher LOB% at 79%. He's got a ton of potential. He still has a high ceiling. But he is due for regression. His results are like a #2 starter even if they are a bit of a mirage. 0.4 fWAR
 
I'd have to replace those 2 guys with Garrett Richards and Tyler Thornburg. Richards is a #5 starter type. Thornburg would probably pitch as an SP like a #4 or 5 guy right now.
 
I think aside from Darvish my SP is pretty shaky. 
 
I'll have to edit this to look at my pen: My pen is awful. 
 
Overall I think this is a team that is a year away from contending. Offensively and defensively we are there. But our rotation and bullpen have been hammered by injury and ineffectiveness. Some of this is just SSS bad luck. 22 IP's is not exactly a large sample size for example. But some is reaching for me and going for high ceiling as opposed to steady and effective.
 

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I'll give it a go...
 
C: Platoon - Jason Castro (15th round) vs. RHP - .284/.347/.486 & Geovany Soto (19th round) vs LHP - .108/.175/.189
 
Castro has developed overall even better than I hoped he would, but his success against righties isn't entirely something new.  Soto's been pretty putrid, but we're only looking at 40 PA's.  He can still take a walk and I'd expect these numbers to improve significantly given time.  That said, Castro may have earned his way out of a straight platoon.  VERDICT: Very happy with the value of this pair given where I chose them.
 
1B: Albert Pujols (1st round) - .249/.324/.429
 
My one big regret in this exercise is taking Pujols in Round 1 (the sting of losing Votto one spot earlier has only grown).  I had hoped that last year's start was an aberration, and his last 2/3 of 2012 backed that up, but the signs are becoming too obvious to ignore.  I don't think he'll be a total bust in the sense that he'll be worthless in a couple of years, but he's not going to be ALBERT PUJOLS any more.  VERDICT: Should have chosen David Wright.
 
2B: Marco Scutaro (11th round) - .316/.367/.400
 
Scutaro is exactly what I thought he'd be - a dependable #2 hitter.  More BBs than Ks, batting over .300, and just a smidge of pop.  Exactly the kind of guy I want hitting in front of my thunder.  VERDICT: Nailed it.
 
SS: JJ Hardy (7th round) - .251/.293/.428
 
Hardy is also exactly what I thought he'd be - my #9 hitter with serious HR potential.  I described him as an elite defender with power and nothing else to offer.  He's lived up to that, currently leading all SS in HRs with 16 and starting for the AL All-Star team.  VERDICT: Nailed it.
 
3B: Jose Bautista (2nd round) - .254/.351/.493
 
Power and patience were what I was hoping for from Bautista, and he's certainly done that.  However, it hasn't been at quite the Ruthian levels we've become accustomed to.  It's hard to be too disappointed with the results, but it's hard to be too excited about them either.  VERDICT: Mildly disappointing.
 
LF: Allen Craig (4th round) - .333/.378/.494
 
Very happy with the results after a sluggish start to the season.  He's a line-drive machine (26.3 %!) and doesn't pop out (3.5%!), so his average should stay solid, mitigating his low BB%.  VERDICT: Extremely happy to get him in the 4th round.
 
CF: Eric Young Jr. (13th round) - .268/.327/.371 (.308/.380/.402 since trade to Mets and every day role)
 
I've always liked Young and hoped he'd get a chance to start somewhere, because whenever he's always produced when given a full-time role.  So far so good in New York.  VERDICT: Very promising leadoff man, happy with where I took him.
 
RF: Oscar Taveras (5th round) - .306/.341/.462 (MiLB)
 
He's a victim of a couple of nagging injuries and an MLB team that simply has no room for him.  He'd have broken camp with my team though.  Currently viewed as the #2 prospect in baseball in most circles.  I still think he'll be a beast and I'm still glad to have him.  VERDICT: Undeterred.
 
DH: Carlos Quentin (8th round) - .275/.366/.496
 
He earns serious douchebag points for his Grienke charge, but his overall results are once again very solid. Very streaky, but puts up good numbers despite Petco,  His wRC+ of 143 is 2nd on my team to Allen Craig, and just barely at that.  VERDICT: Can't argue with the production, especially with how late he was drafted.
 
Bench:
 
Ryan Sweeney (20th round) - Raise your hand if you had Ryan Sweeney leading my team in slugging!  Pretty much what I hoped he'd be before getting injured.
Reid Brignac (21st round) - He's bouncing around from team to team this season, but I'm not going to lose sleep over a utility IF.
Ryan Wheeler (24th round) - Putting up solid numbers at AAA but no current opportunity at MLB level with Arrenado in the way.  Seems like an OK LH bat off the bench.
 
Rotation:
 
Adam Wainwright (3rd round) - 146.2 IP, 2.75 xFIP
 
I felt like this guy was criminally underrated coming into this season and that he was the last of the true aces left on the board when I picked in the 3rd round (and better than several P picked in front of him).  The guy is a machine and just gets it done, as he always has.  Probably my favorite pick of the draft.  VERDICT: Nailed it.
 
Homer Bailey (6th round) - 122.2 IP, 3.10 xFIP
 
Fresh off his 2nd career no-hitter, Bailey has proven he can be untouchable, it's the consistency that's the issue.  Still, his peripherals keep getting better every year and he's entering his prime.  Hard to not like that.  VERDICT: Solid #2, wouldn't change the pick.
 
Scott Baker (9th round) - 0 IP, 0.00 xFIP
 
Excellent run prevention skills this year.  Fat, disabled, and stupid is no way to go through life son.  Maybe next year?  VERDICT: I should have drafted his elbow too.
 
Andrew Cashner (10th round) - 99.1 IP, 3.95 xFIP
 
Cashner's stat line really has me scratching my head.  I figured if he got the chance to start, he'd be pretty good.  He has been, only he's gone from a high K, high BB reliever to a low K, low BB starter.  Really odd.  He's been fairly good though.  VERDICT: OK, I guess?
 
Vance Worley (12th round) - 48.2 IP, 4.81 xFIP
 
Worley was terrible.  Maybe not as bad as his numbers would indicate, but pretty terrible none the less.  He's been decent at AAA since his demotion, so maybe we see him again, but the ceiling feels very very low right now.  VERDICT: *fart noise*
 
Chris Capuano (18th round) - 58.1 IP, 3.68 xFIP
 
The guy's got alligator blood.  Much like with the Dodgers, he keeps finding a way to stay in the rotation even though I don't particularly like it.  VERDICT: I wanted a long man who could start for a couple of months without killing the team, so I guess I got what I wanted.
 
Bullpen:
 
Sean Marshall, LHP (14th round)
John Axford, RHP (16th round)
Aaron Crow, RHP (17th round)
Jared Burton, RHP (22nd round)
Luke Hochevar, RHP (23rd round)
Frank Francisco, RHP (25th round)
 
I'm doing the whole bullpen at once.  Marshall's been injured but should be back soon.  Hopefully it's nothing that lingers.  Axford blew up out of the gate but has quietly been very good for a while now.  Did you know he's allowed 1 ER in his last 29 appearances?  Crow has been dependable if not flashy, and Burton has been a disappointment.  I'll let you know how Francisco is doing if anyone ever sees him again.  The pleasant surprise has been Hochevar.  He's been a little on the lucky side, but his K and BB numbers are excellent and it appears he's really taken to his role in the bullpen.  VERDICT: If Marshall is healthy and Axford is the good Axford, this bullpen is pretty dominant.  If Marshall stays hurt and Axford reverts to bad Axford, it's pretty mediocre, but not terrible.  I'll take it.
 

PrometheusWakefield

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My team is also not especially good:
 
Rotation:
Zach Greinke (Round 2) - He's been about equal to what should be expected of him (3.49 ERA 3.69 FIP), without the breakout season that I was hoping for when I drafted him with the first pick in the second round.  One hopeful sign in his numbers is by far his worst month was May, in the 4 starts after his recovery from the terrible collarbone injury in April.  His last two starts, in particular, are 16 innings, 0 R, 3 BB and 16 Ks with 4 hits allowed.  So I'm pleased enough with his performance and still hopeful he can take his game to another level.
Brett Anderson (Round 3) - So Anderson's obvious problem is that he's always injured, although FWIW it doesn't seem right to suggest that there's a connection between having Tommy John surgery and getting hit in the hand by a comebacker, which is the injury that has basically wrecked Anderson's season this year.  His peripherals still suggest that this is a quality pitcher but, well, he's gotta be healthy to actually demonstrate that.
Tommy Milone (Round 5) - It hurts a bit to see Shelby Miller picked directly after this pick.  Milone's weakness is clearly home runs, and it's a big weakness.  I see him as a guy who will have some down years and up years with a center of gravity around a 4 era.  Could have done better with this pick for sure.
Daniel Hudson (Round 7) - I had an oddly intense emotional reaction to the news that Daniel Hudson re-aggravated his injury and was facing another surgery and another year's recovery.  He was a fun pitcher to watch when he was on. Not to write the guy off completely, but you can't count on anything from him at this point.
Zach Britton (Round 14) - Britton has been the spot starter for Baltimore and done ok enough in that role but clearly is not a guy to be excited about. What burns me up is the guy I really wanted with this pick was Iwakuma.
Jeff Karstens (Round 20) - Yeah, great idea, back up an injury prone starting rotation with another injury prone pitcher.  Karstens has been out all year.  Don't bet on injury prone pitchers, even when they have potential, is the lesson here.
Jeremy Hefner (Round 21) - On the other hand, you never know what might happen with boring pitchers without much stuff!  Hefner has probably been lucky to get to a 3.33 ERA but he does have good enough peripherals to suggest that he's become a decent enough pitcher. 
Eric Bedard (Round 23) - Man, this guy sucks.
 
So basically at this point the rotation is Greinke-Hefner-Milone-Britton-Bedard, with the hopes that at some point Brett Anderson is going to be healthy enough to rejoin the rotation.  That's pretty bad, although if Anderson were to come back and be good it could be above-average. 
 
Infield:
C - Ryan Hanigan (Round 10) - BABIP has turned on Hanigan, and turned him from an above-average offensive player to a terrible one this year.  He's gone from .302 to .206, and that's the primary thing pulling down his slash stats across the board.  On the other hand, he's still putting in professional at bats, with a high walk rate and a low strikeout rate, so if his luck gets a little better he could rebound in the second half.
1B - Paul Goldschmidt (Round 4) - One of my best picks in the draft, he's taken the step forward that I hoped he'd take and has established
himself as one of the best 1B in the game.
2B - Adeiny Hechavarria (Round 13) - It's hard to know for sure what to make of a guy that the scouts say is awesome defensively but it doesn't seem to
show up in the numbers.  But I can't say I'm feeling too happy about a 2B who can't hit and can't evidence his glove so far.
SS - Brandon Crawford (Round 8) - His offense has taken a step forward,  the metrics have his defense down a bit but he's basically what I expected, although not quite what I had hoped.
3B - Josh Donaldson (Round 9) - My best draft pick by far and one of the best players in the league (#9 in fWAR), I can't say I saw this level of breakout coming but
I did think he looked like a good defensive player with a bat that had potential.  Obviously he's been all that and more.
LF - Alex Gordon (Round 1) - So far it's been a bit of a step backwards for Gordon and while he's been a quality player he hasn't justified a first round pick really (albeit the last first round pick).  I had hoped for more.  Hopefully he'll deliver more in the second half.
CF - Lorenzo Cain (Round 6) - Not sure what to make of him thus far, he's still a great defensive player but he's been inconsistent at the plate - at times I've thought he's breaking out, and then he goes through big slumps. I like him as a player but I was hoping for more taking him in the sixth round.
RF - Craig Gentry (Round 11) - Like Cain, his defense has been there but his offense hasn't.
DH - Brandon Moss (Round 12) - Mostly what I expected, a streaky player who hits for decent power, not as good as he showed in 2012 but worthy enough of a role in a lineup. 
 
My lineup at this point looks something like 1) Gordon 2) Donaldson 3) Goldschmidt 4) Moss 5) Cain 6) Gentry 7) Crawford 8) Hanigan 9) Hechevarria.  Strong enough at the top, but it gets real weak after that.  The one bench player worth mentioning is Luis Valbuena (Round 22).  He's managed to turn upticks in his power and patience along with strong defense to become a quality major league regular. Although I'm not sure if he did that on my team, because on my team he's blocked by Donaldson.  Maybe on my team he learned how to play second base like Matt Carpenter.  
 
The bullpen isn't going to help much:
 
J.J. Putz - Man, has he been bad.  Can't believe I fell for the established closer myth with this pick.  He had looked so consistent that I figured I could get a year or two out of him.  He's proven me totally wrong there.
Carter Capps - He's still striking guys out, but he's allowing a huge number of home runs.  My guess is his numbers will improve if his luck on HR/FB changes, and he's clearly got potential, but he hasn't delivered thus far.
Nick Maronde - He's lost all control and been banished to the minors.  Ouch.
 
THe rest of my bullpen has been forced to my rotation already.  So... that's not so good. 
 
Overall I'd say this team is maybe 3.5 games behind for a wild card spot and needing a few good breaks in the second half to make the playoffs.  If Greinke is about to go on a run, if Anderson comes back, if a few of the hitters who have been BABIP losers start turning around, if the AAA callups currently making up my bullpen are good AAA callups, if everybody agrees that since I picked last in the 25th round I should pick first in the supplemental draft and thus add Yusiel Puig... (etc), then maybe we could make a run in the second half. 
 
This draft is quite a humbling experience!  Certainly compared to 12 team fantasy leagues where you can draft both Strasburg and Kershaw into the same rotation. 
 

Kenny F'ing Powers

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Lineup
 
Catcher: Welington Castillo .272/.351/.371, 2.6 WAR
First Base: Mark Teixeira .151/.270/.340, -0.2 WAR
Second Base: Neil Walker .262/.350/.412, 2.3 WAR
Short Stop: Yunel Escobar .263/.331/.374, 3.7 WAR
Catcher: Edwin Encarnacion .278/.375/.546, 4.4 WAR
Left Field: Josh Hamilton .238/.298/.421, 1.2 WAR
Center Field: Gerardo Parra .267/.323/.398, 3.1 WAR
Right Field: Mike Baxter .208/.325/.277, -0.7 WAR
DH: Logan Morrison .261/.354/.419 0.0 WAR
Bench: Kurt Suzuki .231/.287/.330 0.3 WAR
Bench: Ronny Cedeno .246/.283/.351 -0.8 WAR
Bench: Vernon Wells .247/.295/.371 0.1 WAR
Bench: Chad Tracy .195/.228/.305 -0.7 WAR
Bench: Denis Phipps: Minors
 
Combined Slash Line
Batting Average: .254 (14th in MLB)
OBP: .329 (4th in MLB)
Slugging: .388 (21st in MLB)
WAR: 15.3 (21st in MLB)
 
Quick Overview: Considering the complete slide that Hamilton/Teixeira took, having a team that is top 5 in getting on base is something that could probably keep me in some games. Especially with my pitching staff.
 
 
Starting Rotation
 
Madison Bumgarner: 2.91 ERA 174K 57BB, 3.1 WAR
Jeff Samardzija: 4.29 ERA 190K 69BB, 2,7 WAR
Ivan Nova: 3.02 ERA 100K 36BB, 2.4 WAR
Jhoulys Chacin: 3.16 ERA 112K 50BB, 4.4 WAR
Joe Blanton: 6.04 ERA 108K 34BB, -0.4 WAR
 
Combined Rotation Stats
3.83 ERA (14th overall)
7.76 K/9 (5th overall)
2.79 BB/9 (15th overall)
12.2 WAR (6th overall)
 
Bullpen
 
Sergio Romo: 2.55 ERA 8BB 51K, 1.1 WAR
Jim Johnson: 3.34 ERA 17BB, 47K, 0.5 WAR
Mike Dunn: 3.02 ERA 26BB, 66K, .7 WAR
Brad Lincoln: 3.98 ERA 22BB, 25K, -0.3 WAR
Darren Oliver: 4.06 ERA 14BB, 36K, 0.0 WAR
 
Combined Bullpen Stats
3.31 ERA (9th overall)
K/9: 8.30 (13th overall)
BB/9: (14th overall)
WAR: 2.0 WAR
 
Quick Overview: The team ERA is completely blown up by Joe Blanton. If you remove his numbers from the equation, my starting rotation ERA drops to 3.39, good for 3rd in baseball. I'm intrigued to see if anyone's staff is as good as mine. Hopefully not. In our little imaginary league, I could be the San Francisco Giants and win with great pitching and solid on base skills.
 
So....yep. This took me over 2 hours to put together and I don't have the fortitude to look deeper into these numbers. More to come (maybe).
 

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I'm feeling much better about my Shane Victorino pick at this point.  Stephen Drew as well.  My team is still disappointing overall, at least at a quick glance, but at least my homerism picks worked out.
 

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I'd guess real. Doing imaginary would take 3 to 4 hours to do in excel if you know what you are doing. KFP said 2 hours so either he is am excel stud or...

Download pitcher information from fangraphs. Download hitter info from fangraphs.

Use starter, reserve, starting pitcher, rp, dummy variables to calculate sub totals in excel.
Download team makeup from sumners sheet... use vlookups.

Put everything into a pivot table so it is easier to use... and boom you're done. Honestly... I think someone coulddo this Iin under an hour if sumners sheet was able to dl into excel.
 

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Curious, I did the same totals as KFP. 
 
First, it's nice to have Miguel Cabrera and Chris Davis. Because otherwise, this team is a complete shit show. 
 
Team BA: .259
Team OBP: .324
Team SLG: .417
Team oWAR: 23.3
Team dWAR: -4.3
 
Offensively, this is a poor team with two studs and whole bunch of suck. Cruz being suspended and Arod being injured hasn't helped but really, I'm looking at you Dustin Ackley, Denard Span and Asdrubal Cabrera. Oh, and fuck Juan Pierre with a red hot poker. Plus, the defense has been atrocious - again, looking at you Span and Asdrubal. 
 
Team Innings: 786.1
Team ERA: 4.17
Team K/9: 6.9
Team BB/9: 3.0
WAR: 10.5
 
So....not nearly enough innings. Not even close. My team leader in every pitching category has been Travis Wood, which kind sums up this staff. Moore has been OK when healthy and Martin Perez gives hope for the future but Ricky Romero might be the worst pick in the whole draft, Pineda hasn't pitched at all and I've yet to factor in ~500 innings of sub-replacement level performance. 
 
However, the bullpen has been rather awesome, with Mujica in particular being a steal in 19th round. I certainly feel validated in my belief that you could put together a good bullpen in the late rounds. 
 
Overall, this team is probably better than it appears on paper. Sure, the starting pitching is awful but with the bullpen and the presence of Miguel Cabrera and Chris Davis, the team would have won it's share of games in come-from-behind fashion. 
 

ScubaSteveAvery

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Lineup
 
Catcher: Yasmani Grandal: .216/.352/.341 
First Base: Billy Butler: .292/.381/.423 
Second Base: Brian Dozier .243/.310/.431 
Third Base: Alberto Callaspo .258/.333/.356
Shortstop: Didi Gregorius .260/.332/.373
Left Field: Ryan Ludwick .254/.303/.380
Center Field: Jon Jay .266/.340/.369
Right Field: Carlos Beltran .309/.344/.516
Designated Hitter: Nick Swisher .239/.334/.399
 
Bench: Gregor Blanco .254/.324/.336
Bench: David Ross .209/.292/.395
Bench: Elliot Johnson .195/.230/.272
 
Team Avg: .260 (T-10th in MLB)
Team OBP: .332 (3rd in MLB)
Team SLG: 396 (T-15 in MLB)
Team BB%: 9.1% (T-4th in MLB)
Team K%: 17.5% (4th in MLB)
 
Comments: I set out to create an offense that had on base skills, and got that, with great OBP and BB% numbers, and decent batting average numbers.  The power is lackluster, and my best hitter is Carlos Beltran who aging and will need to be replaced.  Butler's home run numbers (14 so far on the season) have been really disappointing.  He has started to walk more, which is great, but the power is pretty for a second round hitter.  Grandal is now out for possibly all of next year, leaving me with no great catching options, since Ross is nearing the end of his career.  My two middle infielders, Gregorius and Dozier, have worked out quite well.  Dozier has 17 home runs this season, which if fantastic.  I'm still a little disappointed overall, since I was hoping Grandal would round out into a middle of the order bat, and Swisher would be a great #5 hitter, and both of those hopes have not turned out to be true. 
 
Starting Pitching
 
David Price: 3.51 ERA, 122Ks, 22BBs, 3.22 FIP
Felix Doubront: 4.15 ERA, 135Ks, 66BBs, 3.69 FIP
Ervin Santana: 3.33 ERA, 143Ks, 43 BBs, 3.88 FIP
Bronson Arroyo: 3.62 ERA, 112Ks, 27BBs, 3.93 FIP
Clay Buchholz: 1.71 ERA, 81Ks, 21BBs, 2.47 FIP
Gavin Floyd: 5.18 ERA, 25Ks, 12BBs, 4.61 FIP
 
Combined Rotation Stats:
ERA: 3.48 (3rd in MLB)
FIP: 3.61 (7th in MLB)
K/9: 7.16 (15th in MLB)
BB/9: 2.33 (T-2nd in MLB)
IP: 776.3 (30th in MLB)
 
Bullpen
 
David Hernandez: 5.36 ERA, 52Ks, 20BBs, 4.88 FIP
Antonio Bastardo:  2.32 ERA, 47Ks, 21BBs, 3.00 FIP 
Sam LeCure: 2.83 ERA, 59Ks, 20BBs, 2.94 FIP
James Russell: 3.42 ERA, 36Ks, 16BBs, 4.19 FIP
Casey Fien: 4.04 ERA, 63Ks, 10BBs, 3.42 FIP
 
Combined Bullpen Stats:
ERA: 3.65 (17th in MLB)
FIP: 3.62 (T-12th in MLB)
K/9: 9.20 (5th in MLB)
BB/9: 3.47 (21st in MLB)
HR/9: 1.11 (T-28th in MLB)
 
Comments: The starting rotation, when not injured, has been fantastic.  I was really surprised to see the final stats.  Right now, there have only been 4 reliable pitchers with Price, Doubront, Santana, and Arroyo.  Floyd is out for the year, and hopefully Buchholz will come back and pitch well down the stretch.  The numbers would probably be worse with whatever 5th pitcher I would have brought up from the minors.  But this starting staff does not walk people, which I love.  Its a young rotation and set up to be good for the next few years, even if Santana is having a fluke season.  The bullpen has been mediocre.  Hernandez was drafted to be my closer, but he's been awful.  Bastardo or LeCure would be my closers, with the other setting up.  Russell and Fien have both been good 7th inning guys.  If it weren't for the injuries to the rotation, he would round out the bullpen as the long man. 
 
Overall:  My team's pythag is currently 81-62 (.563 WP), good for 9th in all of baseball this year.  I think this is accurate, as this team is not a division leader, but a wildcard playoff contender, mainly because of the rotation, but the above average offense helps too.  The offense is a long term concern, but I think this team has a window of 1-3 years as currently constructed.
 

The Best Catch in 100 Years

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I got some pretty unexpected results when I did this. I don't have time right now but I'll post the full stat lines eventually.
 
Position players first.
WAR: 13.8
Slash line: .267/.332/.431
wRC+: 109 (THIRD IN MLB!!)
PA: 3694 (lol)
 
Obviously I don't have nearly enough plate appearances (that's what happens when Scott Sizemore and Cameron Maybin, your starting 2B and CF, combine to play for like two weeks, and you drafted Ryan Braun in the first round) but I was kind of shocked that my surviving hitters had managed to put together such excellent rate stats. Matt Carpenter has been awesome and my MVP so far, but I was shocked to find that Dioner Navarro has put up a line of .305/.369/.515 over 222 plate appearances, and Mike Carp, Eric Chavez and Nate Schierholtz have been quite productive as well. I don't really think I have a top 5 offense--with Braun, Maybin and Casper Wells (what was I thinking with that pick) out, I am struggling to field a full outfield--but even if you make the necessary adjustments (more playing time for the bench guys, full season in MLB from Profar, who put up great stats over the first part of the year in AAA), this offense isn't nearly as bad as I feared. 
 
And the pitchers...
IP: 1113.1
ERA: 3.94 (16th in MLB)
FIP: 4.09 (22nd in MLB)
K/9: 7.47
BB/9: 2.97
HR/9: 1.16
WAR: 11.2
 
I was expecting my pitching stats to look a little bit better. I guess seven of the thirteen pitchers I drafted have been used almost entirely as starters by their MLB teams, and I think these stats would improve if a couple of those guys had pitched out of the pen. Julio Teheran, R.A. Dickey, Scott Kazmir, Chris Tillman and Nate Eovaldi have been my most valuable starters, and Paco Rodriguez and Trevor Rosenthal have been excellent out of the bullpen. There are no true frontline guys here just yet, but I think the future is bright. 
 
But yeah, this team is a bottom dweller in 2013. The Braun suspension and Maybin injury are just too much to overcome. Still, they should be a force to be reckoned with in the coming years. I'm afraid Mike Carp, Dioner Navarro and Eric Chavez probably will never have seasons like this again, but I expect the rest of the position players to produce more in future years. 
 

Fishercat

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I hope to do a deeper look at my team tomorrow, but just going by starting rotation ERA and Fangraphs WAR, I've gotta be up there with some of these pitching staffs too.
 
Jordan Zimmermann: 3.30 ERA (185.1 IP, 68 ER) 2.8 WAR
Mike Minor: 3.06 ERA (179.2 IP, 61 ER), 3.4 WAR
Derek Holland: 3.17 ERA (190.1 IP, 67 ER), 4.5 WAR
Hisashi Iwakuma 2.91 ERA (196.2 IP, 65 ER), 3.5 WAR
Henderson Alvarez: 3.95 ERA (70.2 IP, 31 ER), 1.5 WAR
Alfredo Aceves: 4.86 ERA (37.0 IP, 20 ER) [This includes his relief innings, which hurt the overall numbers, 4.45 ERA as SP with 30.1 IP and 15 ER], -.4 WAR
 
Overall: 859 67 IP, 312 ER, for a 3.27 ERA. Four have made it the whole year and Aceves/Alvarez have made it for about half a year between them, so I'd need to find about 100 more innings in there. 15.3 WAR
 
Bullpen (stealing the format others have used, a bit different for RP, used Fangraphs again)
 
Rex Brothers: 1.81 ERA, 31 BB, 65 K, .9 WAR
Brad Ziegler: 2.33 ERA, 21 BB, 37 K, .6 WAR
Mark Melancon: .87 ERA, 8 BB, 60 K, 2.0 WAR
Steve Delabar: 2.70 ERA, 25 BB, 79 K, 1.5 WAR
Joel Peralta: 2.85 ERA, 25 BB, 63 K, .9 WAR
Dylan Bundy: N/A
 
Once again, I'd need to scrap some more back end innings, but 5.9 WAR out of a bullpen is more than anyone could expect and really adds some support to SF101's relief pitcher ideas w/r/t this draft (don't need to go that early)
 
The offense wouldn't be as good. I'll cover more when I do this whole thing right, but I lost my SS to Biogenesis, my OF has been flat terrible, and the infielders have been pluses but I don't think enough to make up for it more than maybe a mid-range offense. If this team was real, we'd be living on UDFAs.
 

MakMan44

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Right. Let's see where I stand. (Just posting WAR, I'll try and flesh it out later)
 
Pitching
 
Kershaw- 1.89 ERA (5.8 WAR)
Niese- 3.86 ERA (1.2 WAR)
de la Rosa- 5 ERA (-.1 WAR)
Billingsley- Injured 
Corbin- 2.97 ERA (3.9 WAR)
 
Storen- 5 ERA (.1 WAR)
Cishek- 2.52 ERA (1 WAR)
Boxberger- 3.24 ERA (-.2 WAR)
Patton- 3.86 ERA (-.1 WAR)
Rogers- Outrighted 
Familia- 3.48 ERA (-.3 WAR)
Mikolas- Nothing
 
My pitching sucks. Kershaw is a goddamn monster but other than that, I'm not happy how this year has turned out at all. Corbin is pitching over his head, I have no hopes he's going to keep it up past this season. I mean, I don't even have a complete rotation right now. I still think I have a lot of talent here but talent doesn't mean shit if you don't get results. 
 
Hitting Slash line & WAR
 
d'Arnaud- .143 .234 .232 (-0.4)
Alonso- .281 .341 .368 (0.6)
Lombardozzi- 251 .274 .339 ( -0.7)
Desmond- .282 .335 .469 (5.1)
Prado- .284 .334 .420 (2.1)
Saunders- .236 .324 .386 ( 0.7)
Cabrera- .279 .322 .360 (-0.9)
Hamilton- no ABs but worth .1 WAR 
Ruf- .245 .349 .484 (0.5)
 
Herrmann- .220 .309 .374 (0.5)
Valdespin- .188 .250 .316 (-0.4) On a 50 game suspension too. Awesome
Pollock- .251 .299 .388 (2.9)
Vitters has yet to appear in a ML game this season and was injured for most of the season
 
To sum it up, my hitting sucks. Like laughably bad. 
 
Overall, there was a reason I was afraid to actually look over my team and doing so tonight pretty much confirms that fear. My team blows. I can't even be bothered to figure out what their pythagorean W/L would be. Hopefully next year is better because I must be in dead last this year. 
 

Fishercat

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OK, my team's hitting
 
Catcher: Russell Martin (.238/.341/.393, 4.4 WAR)
1st Base: Joey Votto (.303/.430/.494, 5.8 WAR)
2nd Base: Kelly Johnson (.246/.314/.432, 1.3 WAR)
3rd Base: Chase Headley (.239/.331/.378, 2.7 WAR)
Shortstop: Jhonny Peralta (.305/.361/.461, 3.6 WAR)
Left Field: Curtis Granderson (.250/.354/.400, 1.2 WAR)
Center Field: Peter Bourjos (.274/.333/.377, 1.1 WAR)
Right Field: Tyler Colvin (.160/.192/.280, -1.1 WAR)
Designated Hitter/Bench OF: Jesus Guzman (.232/.309/.390, .3 WAR)
Bench: Mike Aviles (.267/.290/.397, .7 WAR)
Bench: Jerry Hairston (.231/.289/.302, -.8 WAR)
Bench: George Kottaras (.179/.350/.379, .6 WAR)
Bench: Jason Bourgeois (.188/.278/.375, -.1 WAR)
 
Team Stats
BA: .258 (T-12)
OBP: .342 (3)
SLG: .410 (T-8)
WAR: 19.7 (12)
PA: 3829
 
Quick Overview: If this were an actual team, I'd need to make up about 1600-1800 PAs or so. Realistically, that would mean Colvin would have been left to sink or swim longer than he got in Colorado, Aviles would be a full-time player (filling in for Headley early, Peralta currently, and enough elsewhere), Kottaras would get DH work, Bourjos would be full-time while healthy, and sadly I'd be relying on Hairston to some extent. The rate stats take a hit while I think the WAR gets a slight bump, but this is what I have. I think that Martin's defensive aptitude is overstated, but I did draft him in part for that reason, and I can't imagine Bourjos has been hit by defense as had as he had. I have to be pretty happy with this lineup, with seven of my nine starters being average or better and three other guys being reasonably close. Headley's been a disappointment as he's descended all the way back, not being the hitter I hoped he was, but a plus third baseman still has value.

I got really lucky with some guys. Peralta's steroid ridden body put in major production beyond expectations, as has Russell Martin, and outside of Colvin I don't think there were any killer misses, which helps. Filling in the ABs represents the biggest challenge of the bunch, as there were times when none of my three OFs were even in the majors or active, among other issues.
 
My offensive strategy has worked pretty well in terms of the outcomes. After I got Votto, I focused primarily on getting guys with strong OBP skills and generally ignored BA, which puts my OBP in a really nice spot and gives me a passable BA and SLG relative to the rest of the real baseball world, especially with the offensive regression out there.
 
Offensive Player WAR: 19.7 (12th)
Starting Pitcher WAR: 15.3 (2nd)
Relief Pitcher WAR: 5.9 (4th) (Overall Pitcher WAR is 2nd in real life behind the Tigers)
Total: 40.9 (Unsure, but I'm guessing reasonably high, probably behind the Tigers, Red Sox, and a couple others)
 

Scoops Bolling

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Let's just say the gambles I made did not turn out well. Add in injuries to half my pitching staff, and I'd probably be in the running for the worst record in the league. Lesson learned...going with high variance players almost exclusively is a bad idea.
 

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OK, let's take a look at the Master Batters then. Not so sure I want to; lots of disappointment out of my top picks, but then again, I got some surprisingly good performances out of late round guys. So here goes:
 
Hitting: 
C - Wilson Ramos: 283/277/311 | 1.7
1B: Freddie Freeman: 306/381/480 | 3.4 
2B Omar Infante: 318/344/449 | 2.8 
3B Pablo Sandoval: 276/334/416 | 1.7 
SS: Josh Rutledge 233/292/347 | -.4
LF: Nate McLouth 264/333/407 | 2.4 
CF: Justin Ruggiano 225/301/397 | 1.2 
RF: Yoenis Cespedes 238/297/429 | 2.0
DH: Chris Johnson 330/365/463 | 2.5 
 
Bench: 
Andy Dirks  258/325/368 | 1.7
Avisail Garcia  283/318/406 | -.5
Daniel Descalso 238/292/347 -.4
Chris Gimenez * (only 2 PAs)
 
Totals with MLB rank:
BA 273 | #3
OBP 329 | #6
SLG 421  | #4
 
WAR: 18.1
 
 
Pitching: 
Justin Verlander ERA: 3.64 IP: 192.2   WAR: 4.1
Hideki Kuroda ERA: 2.99 IP: 183.2   WAR: 3.8
Wade Davis ERA: 5.50 IP: 129.1   WAR: 1.6
Carlos Villanueva ERA: 4.23 IP: 123.1   WAR: 1
Brandon Morrow ERA: 5.63 IP: 54.1   WAR: 0
 
Bullpen:
Drew Smyly ERA: 2.31  K/9: 9.13  BB/9: 1.93  WAR: 1.5
Junichi Tazawa ERA: 2.84  K/9: 9.66  BB/9: 1.56  WAR: 1.2
Darren O'Day ERA: 2.28  K/9: 8.65  BB/9: 2.12  WAR: 0.7
Jared Hughes ERA: 4.97  K/9: 6.83 BB/9: 4.66  WAR: -0.1
Jeremy Horst  ERA: 6.23  K/9: 7.27  BB/9: 4.15  WAR: -0.3
Franklin Morales ERA: 5.30  K/9: 8.2  BB/9: 5.79  WAR: -0.1
Stephen Pryor , ERA: 0.00, K/9 8.59  BB/9 1.23 WAR 0.4* (only 7.1 IP)
 
About 200 IP short on both starters and relievers.
 
totals:
Starter WAR: 10.5
Bullpen WAR: 3.3
 
Total Pitching WAR :13.8
 
 
Summary: I'm about 500 PAs short from where I should be for a full season due to injuries and just plain ineffectiveness, at 4894. A lot of those are at cacther, so a replacement level bat would really drag these totals down. Sophomore slumps for Cespedes, Ruggiano and Rutledge were brutal, I knew there was risk, and that's why I really wanted young guys in their 3rd -4th years with some success like Freeman and Sandoval, but they just were not to be found. Infante was a nice surprise, as was Johnson and McLouth. Freeman is the only guy who seemed to end up about where I thought he'd be.
 
Despite a down year, Verlander still is worth 4 WAR so that's good. Kuroda seemed an ageless wonder until he got tired. Maybe another year can be squeezed out of him. The rest of the rotation was not very good. I'd hoped Davis would go to the pen where he's had more success, but no. Villanueva has bounced back and forth between the rotation and starting; he's done better as a reliever, posting a 9.2 K/9 in that role (as opposed to a 6.5 as starter) He should probably stay in that role, but I'm short on starters anyway. Morrow went down in May with a nerve problem in his throwing arm and has not resurfaced. 
 
Solid top 3 in my pen, including an innings-eating lefty who gets anyone out in Smyly. I'd hand him a rotation spot next year if I could. We all know Tazawa's strengths and weaknesses. O'Day continues to put up good numbers. I took a lot of flyers on young guys at the end of the pen, as relievers burn out so quickly. None of them seem to have caught fire. Maybe next year. Pryor was a good breakout candidate- he looked unhiittable (7.1 IP, 3H, 7K, 1BB) until he tore his lat muscle in April.
 
I'm guessing this is a 500 team, slightly under that, with real needs at C, SS, CF and the back end of the rotation. There's some good talent, but not enough in key spots. I did build the team hoping it would improve, so I'm eager to see what happens as we progress. I'm not sure what next year will bring though; Is Chris Johnson for real? How much does Infante regress? Does Smyly go to the rotation? That could be worth 2+ WAR right there. Do Verlander, Cespedes and Sandoval bounce back to elite status? What happens with Avisail? I think there's potential for a solid team here, but a lot of things need to break the right way.
 

PrometheusWakefield

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Final season numbers:
 
The Good
Offense Defense WAR Round
Donaldson, 3B 37.3 12.1 7.7 9
Goldschmidt, 1B 45 -7 6.4 4
 
 
The strength of the team turns out to be two MVP candidates in Donaldson and Goldschmidt, easily the best two picks of the draft for my team.  Donaldson shocked the world in his first shot at regular playing time by hitting 24 home runs and putting up a .384 OBP while providing near GG-quality defense at third base; I can't say I saw that happening, although I liked what I read in preseason about his approach, batting eye and his 2012 numbers.  Goldschmidt OTOH was exactly what many expected, one of the best young hitters in the game who took that next step forward and established himself as a bona fide star.  The two ended up #3 and #9 in total WAR for the season.  
 
The Average
Gordon, LF 7.1 1.6 3.4 1
Gentry 8.5 13.9 3.4 11
Cain, CF -10.5 20.3 2.6 6
Crawford -6 10.1 2.2 8
Valbuena -3 9.7 2 22
Moss 18.9 -18 1.9 12
 
 
Gordon is clearly a significant disappointment, not only did he not have the breakout season I was hoping he significantly regressed from his 5-6 WAR peak of 2011-2012 both offensively and defensively.  On the other hand, Gentry quietly put together a very strong second half with an .886 OPS that helped him put together a 3.4 WAR in only 284 plate appearances.  In a fair universe, Gentry would not only be a regular player but he might be one of the top leadoff guys in the game with a .374 OBP and 24 for 27 in SB attempts.  Cain and Crawford were hot and cold offensively but provided the strong up the middle defense that I wanted from those picks.  Moss took another step forward with a 30 HR season; I can't help but note that his WAR would be higher if he played DH, as he was meant to play on my team.  
 
All things considered, the lineup did ok, with Gentry-Gordon-Donaldson-Goldschdmit-Moss providing a pretty solid top 5, with Cain, Crawford, and Valbuena basically acceptable hitters for the bottom of the lineup.  The defense isn't quite as good as expected but still quite good, with top quality defensive guys in two outfield spots, shortstop, and third base.  
 
The Bad
Molina -11.7 4.8 0.4 24
Roberts -3.5 -0.7 0.2 18
Hanigan -14.2 6.4 0 10
Hoes 1.5 -8 0 25
Martinez -2.4 -4.4 -0.6 19
Hechevarria -32.4 2.3 -1.9 13
 
 
Basically, all the reserves sucked other than Valbuena and Hechevarria, drafted to play second on the assumption that he could at least play defense, was the worst player in all of baseball as measured in WAR this year - which really means the worst player on a team bad enough to keep putting him out there.  I would have to think that on my team he would have lost playing time to Valbuena or Roberts.  Hanigan is the other big disappointment from this list - his BABIP fell from .302 to .216 which looks like mostly bad luck (his LD% stayed even and his GB rate fell only 4 points) but, like, really bad luck.  .
 
The Pitching
IP FIP WAR Round
Greinke 177.2 3.23 2.9 2
Bedarod 151 4.38 1.4 23
Milone 156.1 4.3 1.2 5
Anderson 44.2 3.85 0.3 3
Hefner 130.2 4.49 0.2 21
Britton 40 4.8 0.1 14
Putz 34.1 3.83 0.1 15
Hudson - - 0 7
Karstens - - 0 20
Capps 59 4.73 -0.3 16
Maronde 5.1 8.11 -0.3 17

 
So the big picture lesson of this draft is don't draft pitchers with injury concerns even if they have upside.  Anderson sucking is a crushing blow to the team, Hudson had a major arm blow out in recovery and is probably done for his career, Karstens was drafted to plug in gaps by the other injury prone pitchers and ended up missing the whole season himself.  Milone regressed rather than took a step forward, and the only real quality in the rotation was thus Greinke, who was hurt early but finished very strong down the stretch.  Hefner and Bedard did manage to save the rotation from being a total disaster with some average innings.  The bullpen was a complete catastrophe as Putz managed to lead the team bullpen in WAR with 0.1 - yikes.  
 
All things considered, position player WAR ended up 27.7, which would rank third in baseball behind only the Rays and Red Sox.  The pitching, on the other hand was 5.6 WAR, above only the Padres and the Astros.  Put it all together and it's an 83 win team, right in the middle of average.  
 

SMU_Sox

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Stats are: xFIP-//fWar
SP1: Yu Darvish: 72 // 5.0 (Sick sick sick sick)
SP2: Chris Archer: 99 // 1.2 (Future looks very bright for Archer)
SP3: Jaime Garcia: 87 // 0.5 (he'll be back next year. He was really good when he was healthy)
SP3 replacement: Garrett Richards: 90 // 1.5
SP4: Jeff Nieman - didn't pitch at all.
SP 4 replacement: Tyler Thornburg 118 // 1.1
SP5: Juan Nicasio: 115 // 2.2
fWar total: 11.5
 
Closer: Tony Watson: 99 // 0.5
Setup Man: Marc Rzepczynski 91 // 0.2
RP3//LOOGY: Casey Crosby ---- 0.0 --- did not pitch
RP4: Al Albuquerque: 88 // 0.3 (if he just had command he'd be elite...)
RP5: Henry Rodriguez: 168 // -0.4 
Total fWAR: 0.6
 
I will rotate my DH, 1B, and OF a bit depending on the matchup. Stats are wRC+//fWAR
1b: James Loney: 118 // 2.7
2b: Jedd Gyorko: 110 // 2.5
SS: Troy Tulowitzki: 143 // 5.6
3b: Eduardo Escobar 72 // -0.5
RF: Matt Joyce 112 // 1.7
CF: Brett Gardner 108 // 3.2
LF: Josh Reddick 92 // 2.7
C: Alex Avila 92 // 0.6
DH: Michael Cuddyer 140 // 2.5
Total fWAR: 21
Aside from a black hole at 3B and/or C I have a very solid lineup. My defense is sick. I have the best defensive 1B. I think Reddick and Gardner could cover the OF by the two of themselves. In theory I could play Gyorko at 3rd and use Getz at 2nd. 
 
 
Bench:
Johnny Giavotella: 80 // 0.0
Chris Getz: 52 // -0.1
Kyle Blanks: 94 // 0.3
Sandy Leon: -100 // 0.0 (1 PA...)
Bench fWar: 0.2 But in their defense - Getz and Leon actually play good, you know, defense.
 
 
Total fWAR: 12.1 Pitching + 21.2 hitting = 33.2. This puts me in the slightly under .500 category. But in all fairness some of my pitchers would have had a higher fWAR if their clubs had let them be a SP for the whole year. I think if you factor that in my 1-2-3 of Darvish-Richards-Archer is very solid to go with good defense and bats. My bullpen is a mess. Part of the reason why that is is that I had to bring two guys from my pen in to start. Henry Rodriguez was a stupid pick when I made it. My gamble on Al Albuquerque only partially paid off.
Overall this is a competitive team. Next year I expect guys like Gyorko and Reddick to get better, Avila to bounce back. Jaime Garcia and Niemann will be back as well. I might send Niemann to the pen... who knows. But I'm probably around .500 and in the playoff chase.
 
I love this team in the playoffs due my 1-2-3 guys, defense, and lineup.
 

soxfan121

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I am curious as to which owner(s) got the most innings from their pitching staff. I got bumpkus from several pitchers as well and ended up far, far short of 162 games worth. 
 

terrisus

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soxfan121 said:
I am curious as to which owner(s) got the most innings from their pitching staff. I got bumpkus from several pitchers as well and ended up far, far short of 162 games worth. 
 
Well, I got 141 starts from my 5-man rotation, and another 21 from my bullpen, which puts me squarely at 162 starts.
(Didn't go through and count innings, not sure how close I came on that)
 
I will be doing a 1st-year recap of my team at some point, just kind of putting it off until after the actual Baseball season ends.
 

Cellar-Door

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Sealing SMU SOX setup:
 
Stats are: xFIP-//fWar
SP1: Brandon Beachy: 96 // 0.2 (30 IP in 5 starts coming off surgery)
SP2: Tyler Skaggs: 105 // 0.1 (Less than 40 IP in the bigs)
SP3: Erasmo Ramirez: 107 // 0.2 (Hurt early, 72 IP inexplicably stopped throwing his changeup, his best pitch, and one of the better CH in the league)
SP4: Zach McAllister: 106 // 1.5  (134 IP hooray)
SP5: Jeff Locke: 111 // 1,1 (166 IP)
SP6: Joe Wieland  106 // =0.1 (less than 30 IP coming off injury)
 
fWar total: 3.0
 
Closer: Jordan Walden: 93 // 0.8
Setup Man: Tim Collins 108 // 0.7
RP3//LOOGY: Donnie Veal: 98 // 0.2
RP4: Brayan Villareal: 186 // -0.3 ( only 4.1 IP including a brutal week in April giving up 8ER in 0.2 IP)
RP5: Joba Chamberlain 138 // -0.6 (the team LVP)
Total fWAR: 0.8
 
Stats are wRC+//fWAR
1b: Daric Barton: 107 // 0.7
2b: Kyle Seager: 113 // 3.4
SS: Andrelton Simmons: 91 // 4.7
3b: Matt Dominguez 89 // 1.0 (MUCH better second half, cursed by the BABIP gods)
RF: Carlos Gonzalez 149 // 4.9
CF: Austin Jackson 107 // 3.1
LF: Leonys Martin  87 // 2.7
C: Jonathon Lucroy 118 // 3.6
DH: Tyler Moore 64 // -1.2
Total fWAR: 22.9
 
Aside from a black hole at 3B and/or C I have a very solid lineup. My defense is sick. I have the best defensive 1B. I think Reddick and Gardner could cover the OF by the two of themselves. In theory I could play Gyorko at 3rd and use Getz at 2nd. 
 
 
Bench:
David Cooper: DNP
James Darnell: DNP
Jose Lobaton: 103 // 1.4
Jeff Bianchi: 54 // 0.8
Colin Cowgill: 64 // -0.2
Bench fWar: 2.0
 
 
Total fWAR: 3 Pitching + 24.9 hitting = 27.9.
 
The Good:
Probably the best defensive team in the league, which should do wonders for my staff (particularly Jeff Locke who was 5th in the league in GB%)
 
The Bad:
DH, Bench outside Lobaton, Pitching Health.
 

SMU_Sox

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I got 119 starts in real life. In fantasy Chris Archer starts from day 1 and he gets 31 starts and not 23. Garrett Richards also gets more. In all reality I should have 32 starts from 4 of my 5 starters. Tyler thornburg and some scrubs would split up the last 34 odd starts. He probably throws 25 of them and the other 9 go to some jag 7th or 8th starter.

Next year when Garcia gets back and Richards and Archer are full time starters I'm going to have a stacked rotation that can withstand an injury. It's too bad about Niemann.
 

Hendu for Kutch

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I got 92 starts and 625 2/3 innings out of my top 3 guys, which is friggin' fantastic.  Hard to be too upset with a top 3 of Wainwright, Bailey, and Cashner this year.
 
The bottom of my rotation...eh, not so great.
 
Capuano was actually pretty good, getting 20 starts and putting up a 3.67 XFIP.  He didn't throw a lot of innings though (105).   Scott Baker took longer to get back than originally planned and only made 3 starts.  Vance Worley was an abortion, or at least should have been (10 awful starts).
 
All told my starters pitched 795 innings over 125 starts, meaning I've got 37 starts left to make up.  Looks like Luke Hochevar is coming back to starting pitching, which is probably unfortunate for all involved.
 

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It appears I got 890 innings and 142 starts from my initial 5:  Sabathia, Lester, Buehrle, Dempster, and Feldman, with the top 3 going over 200 innings and Dempster with 171.1.  Feldman ended up only pitching 90.2 innings but thats ok because Hector Santiago ended up with 23 starts and 149 innings.
 

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C - A.J. Ellis: 2.2 fWAR, .304 wOBA, 115 games
1B - Brett Wallace: 0.0 fWAR, 3.14 wOBA, 79 games
2B - DJ LeMahieu: 0.8 fWAR, .295 wOBA, 109 games
SS - Stephen Drew: 3.4 fWAR, .337 wOBA, 124 games
3B - David Freese: 0.3 fWAR, .322 wOBA, 138 games
LF - Shane Victorino: 5.6 fWAR, .353 wOBA, 122 games
RF - Ben Zobrist: 5.4 fWAR, .334 wOBA, 157 games
CF - Bryce Harper: 3.8 fWAR, .371 wOBA, 118 games
DH - Adam Dunn: -0.2 fWAR, .331 wOBA, 149 games
 
21.3 fWAR
 
I got two 5+ fWAR players out of my lineup, just not the two I was expecting.  Victorino was much better than I was hoping for.  Drew validated my faith in him, which I'm happy about, and Harper missed time with a bunch of injuries but was excellent when he was on the field.  Of course, any time your young stud star misses time because of knee and hip injuries, you have to be concerned going forward.  Wishing I'd grabbed Trout with the top pick.
 
Overall my offense probably would have been better than average, but no where near the top of the league.  Freese missed plenty of time and was ineffectual for most of the season.  Wallace and LeMahieu were awful at the plate and Dunn was what I was expecting power-wise with 34 home runs, but he just doesn't make contact enough these days to keep his OBP respectable.  A.J. Ellis was also disappointing at the plate, though managed to be slightly above average by fWAR.  Of course, he's a catcher, so that number is tough to trust.
 
B1 - Jeff Francoeur: Fuck you.
B2 - Scott Hairston: -0.7 fWAR, .279 wOBA, 85 games
B3 - Robert Andino: -0.2 fWAR, .226 wOBA, 29 games
B4 - Bobby Wilson: Send out a search party.  Haven't seen him since the draft.
 
-2.2 fWAR 
 
My bench sucked.  No positive fWAR's from any of them and one of them didn't spend a day in the majors.  I'm retroactively demoting Mrs. Francoeur to homely with a touch of "your husband sucks."  My offense overall was projected to produce 28 fWAR, so getting 19.1 is definitely disappointing.
 
SP1 - Cliff Lee: 5.1 fWAR, 222.2 IP, 2.82 FIP, 2.78 xFIP
SP2 - Trevor Cahill: 0.9 fWAR, 146.2 IP, 4.26 FIP, 4.11 xFIP
SP3 - Edwin Jackson: 2.0 fWAR, 175.1 IP, 3.79 FIP, 3.86 xFIP
SP4 - Shaun Marcum: 1.2 fWAR, 78.1 IP, 3.64 FIP, 4.22 xFIP
Sp5 - Joe Saunders: 0.6 fWAR, 182.0 IP, 4.72 FIP, 4.23 xFIP
 
RP1/SP6 - Mike Leake: 1.6 fWAR, 192.1 IP, 4.04 FIP, 3.91 xFIP
 
11.4 fWAR
 
This is where I did the best even if I came up a little short of my projected 15 fWAR.  My rotation gave me all the innings I needed, Cliff Lee was every bit the ace I drafted him to be, Jackson was very good, Marcum was solid in his limited time on the mound and Leake was a great pickup as insurance against an injury, as I needed every one of his 192.1 innings and 31 starts to get to a full season of games covered.  My rotation averaged 6.15 or so innings per start.  I likely would have changed my plan once I saw Leake succeeding as a starter and moved Marcum to the pen when he got back from his injury, but that's not how it played out in real life and it's tough to try and adjust for that in breaking this down.  Saunders was below average, but not many staffs avoided having one of those guys around.  My big disappointment here is Cahill, who I drafted to be a solid number 2 and who just wasn't any such thing.
 
RP2 - Casey Janssen: 1.3 fWAR, 52.2 IP, 2.74 FIP, 3.09 xFIP
RP3 - Andrew Bailey: 0.0 fWAR, 28.2 IP, 4.76 FIP, 3.20 xFIP
RP4 - Louis Coleman: 0.2 fWAR, 29.2 IP, 2.04 FIP, 2.70 xFIP
RP5 - Christian Garcia: DNP
RP6 - Joe Thatcher: 0.2 fWAR, 39.1 IP, 3.38 FIP, 3.55 xFIP
RP7 - Randy Choate: 0.5 fWAR, 35.1 IP, 2.57 FIP, 3.30 xFIP
 
2.4 fWAR
 
Janssen as closer worked out great, though Bailey came back to bite me in the ass.  He didn't get results when he was on the mound and now he's quite possibly done as an effective late inning reliever with his shoulder exploding in two places.  Coleman was very solid, Choate overachieved and Thatcher was good as a middle reliever.  Garcia didn't make the majors this year, so he was a wasted pick.  They came in 0.2 better than they were projected at.
 
So in total, I drafted 32.9 fWAR worth of production.  Add that to the 52 wins a team of replacement players is expected to have over the course of a season, and I ended up at about 85 wins and almost certainly out of the playoffs unless our divisions left me with a very weak unbalanced schedule or in a division where no one was winning.
 
If I could go back and change one thing besides the obvious Trout for Harper swap, I would probably not have drafted Marcum and instead gone for a first baseman or right fielder.  Having Leake in the rotation full time from the start would have meant I approached my bullpen differently and probably a touch more aggressively.  Of course, I likely would have drafted Tyler Moore in that spot, which would have brought my win total down even further, so in the end it worked out for me, but looking into year two, I'd much rather have Moore than Marcum.
 
To answer soxfan121's question, I got 997.1 innings from the six starters I drafted.  I grabbed Leake to swing between the pen and rotation as needed knowing Marcum was a risk to miss time.  It appears to have paid off.  I also got exactly 162 starts from my six guys, which is fairly amusing.
 

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Here we go:
 
C - Tyler Flowers -0.1
1B - Adrian Gonzalez 2.8
2B - Gordon Beckham 1.0
SS - Joey Church 1.8
3B - Will Middlebrooks 0.3
LF - Starling Marte 4.6
CF - Carlos Gomez 7.6
RF - Eury Perez 0.0
DH - Yan Gomes 3.7
 
Starting lineup = 21.7 fWar
 
Damn good defense and surprisingly good offense. This lineup played better than expected. Give Eury some more time an that's an All-Star outfield. Likely would've played Gomes behind the plate and DH'd well, anyone.
 
B1 - Brett Jackson Demoted
B2 - Logan Schafer 0.0
B3 - Hernan Perez -0.6
B4 - Henry Rodriguez -0.2
 
Bench = -0.8
 
All defensive subs here. Perez and Rodriguez are young and have some offensive potential.
 
SP1 - Stephen Strasburg 3.2
SP2 - Trevor Bauer -0.3
SP3 - Rick Porcello 3.2
SP4 - Danny Duffy 0.6
SP5 - Kyle McPherson DNP
SP6 - Justin Grimm 0.8
 
Starters = 7.5 fWar
 
Disappointments all around. No one stayed healthy. Porcello pitched well though. A full year of Duffy would make a big difference.
 
RP1 - Craig Kimbrel 2.2
RP2 - Kelvin Herrera 0.6
RP3 - Jonny Venters DNP
RP4 - Cody Allen 1.0
RP5 - Justin Wilson 0.5
RP6 - Maikel Cleto -0.1
 
Relievers = 5.0 fWar
 
Not bad. I'll take a shut down closer and set-up man with a decent lefty.
 
 
Total fWar = 33.4
 
Not bad for a bunch of guys under 30 (Other than AG). I'd take my chances with them for a few years.
 

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I did not want to go through this exercise to see and realize how bad my team was but it turns out it isn't quite as terrible as I thought.  However, this would be a pretty painful team to watch at bat.
 
C - Derek Norris:  2.0 
1B - Corey Hart:  DNP
2B - Robinson Cano: 6.0  
SS - Cliff Pennington:  0.8
3B - Jeff Keppinger:  -1.5
LF - Dayan Viciedo:  -0.1
CF - Angel Pagan: 1.3
RF - Norichika Aoki:  1.7
DH - Joe Mauer:  5.2
 
"Starters" fWAR:  15.4
 
There's a big bag of awful.  Hart being gone the whole year didn't help, as well as Pagan only going half the season and Keppinger being a complete black hole of suck.  Also, Viciedo did not continue to build on 2012 and I hope this isn't an overall stall and he gets better next year.  Getting 72.7% of your WAR from two people does not strike me as terribly ideal.
 
 
B1 - Kirk Nieuwenhuis:  0.5
B2 - Jordy Mercer:  1.4
B3 - Dave Sappelt:  -0.5
B4 - Kevin Frandsen:  0.0
B5 - Jeff Mathis:  -0.5
 
Bench fWAR:  0.9
 
Hey, at least it was positive!
 
SP1 - CC Sabathia:  2.7
SP2 - Jon Lester:  4.3
SP3 - Mark Buehrle: 2.5
SP4 - Ryan Dempster:  1.3
SP5 - Scott Feldman:  2.1
 
Starters fWAR: 12.9
 
Lots and lots of innings through the first three.  A down year for CC, but as I mentioned in the draft, if my plague touch screwed him like it did Sizemore the first time around, we all win.  So I'm good with it.  Overall I am pleased with the performance of my starters.
 
 
RP1 - Matt Belisle:  1.4
RP2 - Joe Nathan:  2.5
RP3 - Joe Smith:  0.4
RP4 - Hector Santiago:  1.5
RP5 - Scott Downs:  0.6
RP6 - Brad Brach: -0.2
 
Relievers fWAR:   6.2
 
Screw you Brad Brach for throwing up the only negative in my pen.  Overall a pretty solid performance on that front.
 
Overall fWAR:  35.4
 
My pen saved my bacon here, as my starting lineup was considerably worse than I thought due to injury or just straight sucking.
 
 

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Stats are: xFIP- // fWAR // IP // Games Started
SP1: Jered Weaver: 109 // 2.4 // 154.1 // 24
SP2: Marco Estrada: 96 // 1.6 // 128.0 // 21
SP3: Jason Hammel: 115 // 0.7 // 139.1 // 23
SP4: Wily Peralta: 110 // 1.0 // 183.1 // 32
SP5: Jake Arrieta: 120 // 0.2 // 75.1 // 14
SP6: Jeremy Guthrie: 119 // 1.1 // 211.2 // 33
Total fWAR: 7
Thoughts: Weaver was not the ace we hoped he would be.  Estrada performed adequate as did Guthrie but the rest of the SPs were less than impressive.  The team totaled 890.6 IPs from their starters and accounted for 147 games started.  

Closer: Tyler Clippard: 107 // 0.4 // 71 // 0
Setup: Robbie Ross: 76 // 1.1 // 62.1 // 0
RP3: Sergio Santos: 66 // 0.9 // 25.2 // 0
RP4: Adam Ottavino: 94 // 1.2 // 78.1 // 0
RP5: Cristhian Martinez: 96 // 0.0 // 2.1 // 0 (Injured for the majority of the year // Had shoulder surgery in July with an expected return of Spring Training 2014)
Total fWAR: 3.6
Thoughts: Ross and Ottavino were studs.  Clippard was okay and Santos came back healthy and strong although he only pitched a few innings late in the year.  Martinez should come back strong from his shoulder surgery (labrum and rotator cuff fraying cleanup).

Stats are wRC+ // fWAR // Games Played
C: Wilin Rosario: 107 // 2.2 // 121
1B: Justin Smoak: 109 // 0.4 // 131
2B: Dustin Pedroia: 115 // 5.4 // 160
3B: Mike Moustakas: 77 // 1.1 // 136
SS: Zack Cozart: 79 // 2.1 // 151
CF1: Coco Crisp: 117 // 3.9 // 131
CF2: B.J. Upton: 56 // -0.6 // 126
RF: Drew Stubbs: 88 // 0.8 // 146
DH: Chris Iannetta: 111 // 2.1 // 115
Total fWAR: 17.4
Thoughts:  I cant believe these guys actually gave the Wibi's a 17.4 fWAR.  Pedroia was the only one who performed near expectations.  Iannetta and Crisp were good late round values but Crisp had an unsustainable year and would probably have been moved a the trading deadline for some value.

Bench
C: Tim Federowicz: 69 // 0.0 // 56
OF: Alex Presley: 91 // -0.1 // 57
OF: Roger Bernadina: 49 // -0.5 // 112
OF: Jose Tabata: 118 // 1.1 // 106
INF: Yamaico Navarro: 89 // 0.0 // 8 (Spent most of the season at AAA where he put up an wRC+ of 118)
Total fWAR: 0.5
Thoughts: Ugly but most of these guys are young so things are looking up.  I would have taken many more solid but older bench players instead of trying to build a young team on the bench too.

Overall fWAR: 28.5
Projected Wins: 80.5
 
 

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C- Carlos Santana - 154 GP, 3.6 fWAR
1B - Eric Hosmer - 159 GP, 3.1 fWAR
2B - Rickie Weeks - 104 GP, -0.3 fWAR
SS - Dee Gordon - 38 GP, 0.0 fWAR
3B - Emilio Bonfiacio - 136 GP, 0.6 fWAR
LF - Josh Willingham - 111 GP, 0.0 fWAR
CF - Mike Trout - 157 GP, 10.4 fWAR
RF - Hunter Pence - 162 GP, 5.4 fWAR
DH - Chris Carter - 148 GP, 0.4 fWAR
 
OF - Franklin Gutierrez - 41 GP, 0.4 fWAR
1B/DH - Adam Lind - 143 GP, 1.8 fWAR
C - Bryan Anderson - 10 GP, -0.4 fWAR
SS - Juan Diaz - AAA all year
 
Offense - 25 fWAR
 
SP - Tim Lincecum - 32 GS, 197.2 IP, 1.6 fWAR
SP - Lance Lynn - 33 GS, 201.2 IP, 3.3 fWAR
SP - Phil Hughes - 29 GS, 145.2 IP, 1.3 fWAR (HOW????)
SP - Casey Kelly - TJ'ed DNP
SP - Jorge DeLaRosa - 30 GS, 167.2 IP, 2.9 fWAR
SP - Carlos Carrasco - 7 GS, 46.2 IP, 0.2 fWAR
SP - Miguel Gonzalez - 30 GP, 28 GS, 171.1 IP, 1.7 fWAR
 
RP - Kenley Jansen - 75 GP, 76.2 IP, 2.2 fWAR
RP - Rafael Betancourt - 32 GP, 28.2 IP, 0.5 fWAR (and a career-ending TJ injury)
RP - Joaquin Benoit - 66 GP, 67 IP, 1.6 fWAR
RP - Brad Hand - 7 GP, 2 GS, 20.2 IP, 0.1 fWAR
RP - Wesley Wright - 71 GP, 53.2 IP, 0.0 fWAR
 
 
Pitching - 15.4 fWAR
 
Total fWAR - 40.4 fWAR
 
Total GS - 161
 
Talk about a top-heavy team.  I thought for sure I'd be at the bottom, but when one guy gets just over 25% of your total fWAR, I guess it's hard to get there.  This team is a bunch of haves and have-nots.  A 4 man offense, 1 good starter, 1 surprise in the rotation (Gonzalez), 3 good to excellent closers (until one shredded his elbow), and a ton of riff-raff.  I've got some work to do on this team, but if I can fill the holes (2B, SS, DH, get Kelly back and pitching well), this could be a real good team.
 

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I got 100 starts and 594 innings out of my starters with a tidy (awful) 4.72 ERA.
 
I'm the Houston Astros of this league.
 
Edit: But hey! At least I have Pedro Ciriaco starting at third base!!!
 

Scoops Bolling

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Positional: 10.2 fWAR
Bullpen: 4.6 fWAR
Rotation: 5.6 fWAR
 
Total: 20.4 fWAR
 
Awful team, although I think it wins a few more games than expected through the combination of a terrific defense and dynamite bullpen (Holland set up by Grilli and McGee? Goddamn). Still, tons of disappointments, a few colossal busts and combusted talents (I mean, just look at the names in the infield...Andrus, Espinosa, Wieters, Chisenhall, etc), and overall a real failure of a season. I'm glad I can wash my hands of this roster now...it did not work out.
 

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A short recap, hope to post a full one soon
 
Positional: 19.7 WAR
 
The Good: Joey Votto came as advertised, Martin and Peralta were nice surprises, while Headley and Kelly Johnson did their jobs
The Bad: The younger OFs completely busted (Colvin and Guzman) and outside of Kottaras, the bench was a disappointment at best.
Projection: Likely downturn next year with key cogs getting older, but still some hope for slack to be picked up
 
Rotation: 17.9 WAR
 
The Good: Everything? All four of my SPs hit the Top 30 in Fangraphs WAR and performed over draft expectation (except Zimmermann I guess, but hard to be upset. Wainwright would have been better but I had my reasons)
The Bad: Bundy needed TJS
Projection: This was a high water point but Minor, Z, and Holland are all young and I hope for a similar turnout next year. Alvarez was a diamond in the rough.
 
Bullpen: 5.5 WAR
 
The Good: I had five strong relievers, including Melancon who had a huge bounceback year, and Delabar who figured out how to pitch to both sides of the plate
The Bad: Aceves is a nutcase
Projection: Who knows? Bullpens are so volatile.
 
Overall: 43.1 WAR. Based on everything I've seen so far, the team looks like it would be an upper tier team for 2013, which is what I was hoping for.
 

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Are we going to wait another 4 years or do this again in the offseason so we can get all pissy at how long people take?  =) 
 

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terrisus said:
Why haven't you drafted yet? I've been waiting for months. Let's go!
 
I know right?  And my shit panic last pick cost me -.5 fWAR...which everyone saw coming.  Oh well. lol.
 
Edit:  missed a decimal.  Mathis is bad, but not THAT bad.
 

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FarvinMoosey said:
Are we going to wait another 4 years or do this again in the offseason so we can get all pissy at how long people take?  =) 
 
If it gets your avatar to post more, I'm in.
 

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I drafted Koji. As far as I'm concerned that makes me a winner regardless of what may or may not have happened to the rest of my team.
 

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Jed Zeppelin said:
I drafted Koji. As far as I'm concerned that makes me a winner regardless of what may or may not have happened to the rest of my team.
 
I believe that's correct.   You get to pull the order next year or something as a reward.  Or maybe this is like a game of asshole and you get to make a rule.  Honestly Im just posting again to appease soxfan121.
 

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FarvinMoosey said:
 
I believe that's correct.   You get to pull the order next year or something as a reward.  Or maybe this is like a game of asshole and you get to make a rule.  Honestly Im just posting again to appease soxfan121.
 
I've been appeased for the moment. You need to post more in general, though.
 
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Any chance we can do another one of these this winter, maybe with people who didn't get a shot last time? I just read through this entire thread and I'm drooling at the possibility of getting a squad of my own. 
 
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