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Best pick from #11-#20?


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The Jets make history by missing trading opportunities by sleeping through offers for pick #18.
 
Of course, that's par for the course for the Gang Green, but times'r-a-changin'. 
 
With the 18th pick in the 2014 NFL draft, the New York Football Jets select:
 
TE, C.J. Fiedorow...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
...just kidding. Jets will grab him in the 3rd round before the Pats pick to piss off some dumb mod on this forum. The Jets actually select: 

TE, Eric Ebron
 
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7dTWCkEWp0[/youtube]
 
Ebron has slipped due to other talented players in this deep draft, but that just means the Jets just picked up the second most dangerous playmaker on offense (after Watkins). 
 
Some lesser pundits may call for a wideout, but this FO believes the 18th spot should not be used to reach for a 2nd-tier group (after Watkins and Evans). Ebron is someone who is:
  • An athletic, big target (shade smaller than Gronk, but faster) for Geno & Vick
  • A receiver who can line up everywhere, and can attack the middle of the zone while Decker spreads the field
In Mornhinweg's pure West Coast offense, an elite TE is absolutely critical. Ebron's freakish wide target radius will do two things that this offense absolutely needs: increase completion rates and reduce turnovers.
 
Some lesser pundits also may point to Ebron's collegiate records and doubt his full NFL potential. You know who else had that same perception? Alshon Jefferies:
 
Granted, Ebron's numbers as a junior in Chapel Hill weren't exactly eye-popping. However, Ebron is far from the first collegiate pass-catcher whose production was hampered by his quarterback.
 
Chicago Bears wideout Alshon Jeffery just nodded so hard his head popped off and rolled across the floor. In 2010, Jeffery had over 1,500 receiving yards at South Carolina. The next year he had just over half that, falling to the second round of the 2012 NFL draft.
 
Hey what about those drops and lack of strength as a TE? Our friend Matt Waldman perfectly sums our our thoughts on it:
 
Ebron lacks strength, doesn’t understand how to bend corners, or keep his body in control as an edge rusher. However, he does have promise using his hands, his speed and quickness translate, and what’s most impressive is that he has a heck of a motor.
 
Ebron’s hands and body control are far more refined as an offensive player.
 
But it pales in comparison to this play against Virginia Tech. It’s a Calvin Johnson-like play in the sense that Ebron has to highpoint the ball in traffic, turn his body away from the defender while securing the ball, and still maintain possession while hitting the ground hard.

Ask the teams that have benefitted from Brandon Marshall and Terrell Owens. Based on the athleticism, effort, versatility, and ability to thrive against physical play, I know that saying I’d "live with" the talents of Ebron would be a disservice to his current skill -– warts and all.
What play is he talkin' about? This play, that's wut:
 
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rkWifHC78s[/youtube]
 
Jets will dip into other needs with our 12 total picks including a WR, but Ebron instantly upgrades at a keystone position and makes Geno better*.
 
Eat yer' heart out BB.
 
* Yeah, I had a chuckle typing that too, Eck.
 

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Chart updated, T&A pm'd.
 
Here's the final results on the Manzel pick (yeah, that's me dissing on the Manzel pick -- sorry Deuce :))
 

 
Now that we're well past the top 10 picks, two new polls on best impact / best value pick from #1 to #10.
 

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I was torn between TBW for both or just TBW for value. I went with JD Clowney for impact as I think he's going to be a force of destruction on the Jags or drawing double and triple teams and opening it up for everyone else.

As for value getting TBW at 5 was a scenario I didn't even consider. I assumed at least TBW and either bortles and/or Manziel would be off the board. But when he fell I ended up with my #1 QB. Most of the other picks are right around where they should be. Not that they aren't good but that no one truly slid.
 

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I picked Clowney for both. Questionable motor and all the kid is a physical freak. I've seen plenty of mocks that have him dropping to ATL at #6 but I think even that's crazy.
 

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Miami has to come out of this draft with an upgraded offensive line. Tannehill is at a point where Miami needs to have a sense if he is someone they can build around and invest in or if they need to go back to the drawing board, again. But there is no way anyone can have any reasonable expectations of Tannehill to show anything behind their current monstrosity of an Oline.

The top four offensive tackles are off the board and Miami seems like a strong candidate to double dip at OL during this draft. With that in mind, they take the premium talent available now and look for a tackle over the next two rounds.

I've read that Su'a-Filo is regarded as the best zone blocking prospect in this draft and a quick google search indicates Joe Philben as a zone blocking advocate. Assuming both of those are true and the top 4 tackles are gone. Miami selects Xavier Su'a-Filo, G, UCLA
 

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Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
I picked Clowney for both. Questionable motor and all the kid is a physical freak. I've seen plenty of mocks that have him dropping to ATL at #6 but I think even that's crazy.
If I was a GM in the top 5, Clowney would scare the hell out of me. You'd have to have huge balls and total ownership support to pass on him...but Clowney seems much more likely to give you 3rd/4th round production than top 5 production. In other words, 5 years from now I can imagine Anthony Barr getting his first All Pro nod while Clowney is seeking a "fresh start" with Donald Trump's Buffalo (soon to be LA) Bills.
 

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67YAZ said:
If I was a GM in the top 5, Clowney would scare the hell out of me. You'd have to have huge balls and total ownership support to pass on him...but Clowney seems much more likely to give you 3rd/4th round production than top 5 production. In other words, 5 years from now I can imagine Anthony Barr getting his first All Pro nod while Clowney is seeking a "fresh start" with Donald Trump's Buffalo (soon to be LA) Bills.
 
I'd say it's a toss up as to what a team is going to get. Maybe he wants to prove the naysayers wrong and completely dominate. Maybe he wants to get paid. Either way, I'd love to have the chance to light a fire under his ass. He has a special set of skills. Liam Neeson style.
 

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On phone. With the 20th pick of the draft the Cardinals select Kony Ealy. They could use a pass rushing DE.
 


When you look at the Cardinals you have to see who they play in their division. They face 2 good-to-great QB's rising stars. One may end up in prison because he has tattoos and is obviously a rape artist. Bradford is definitely a guy who can be good to great as well. And then when you factor in the playoffs you have 2-3 more teams in the NFC with good QB's. You need a pass rush to succeed and Ealy is an athletic freak. He had 14 TFL and 9.5 sacks last year. He explodes off the line. His run defense needs a little work but unlike Sam and/or Dee Ford Ealy shined against bigger tackles. He has some questions about his ability to drop back into coverage but has the second best 3-Cone of all the DE's and better than many the RB's. He's top 10 in the bench press, broad jump, arm length, etc. He comes off as much more athletic on tape. I'm actually surprised his combine numbers weren't better even though I don't put a ton of stock in them. But for a pass rusher quick acceleration and speed in small spaces is key - same with strength and Ealy has that.
 
Ealy can probably start right away as a rotational pass rusher - a 2 down player. He has the potential to be a game changing DE/LB who would be a 3 down player. I'm very bullish on Ealy as I think his ceiling is a pro bowler and floor is a + player.
 
The Cardinals have a good front 3/4 but with Ealy they have the ability to make that an elite one. Plus - having a good pass rusher can make up for some of their secondary trouble. They have a studs and duds approach there.
 

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Bosox4416 said:
 
The fact that a rookie o-lineman is going to make a crappy QB with a 59% completion percentage better when his whole game is based on throwing it up and hoping for a PI is kind of funny.
 

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with the 21 st pick in the 2014 draft the denver broncos select Ryan Shazier LB Ohio st i was going to pick Kony Ealy but my fellow gm beat to the punch had i stayed at 31 and 63 a rb like Tre mason or a guy like LB Shane Shov was plob where i was leaning look to go back we must go through the pats and if u don't pressure brady u lose sure denver needs a rb badly and a nickel cb but u can find that in later rounds the denver blog i go on loves Shazier and Lindy's Draft guide compares him to Lavonte David LB Tb sorry idk how to bold and i am on my ps3 which btw gets this stie very good 
 

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The Eagles had thought about trading up to grab one of Pryor or Dix but the Fighting Chip Kelly's decided to stay put and let the draft come to them. They need help in a few different places but the most dire needs are in the secondary and at WR. Since it's a little to early for some of the defensive backs looks like they're going in another direction. I'm sure there are fans all over Iggles Country mourning the loss of what DJax brought to the team on the field. It's not like his skillset is easily replaceable.
 
Wait... It is? 
 
With the 22nd pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Philadelphia Eagles select,
 

 
Brandin Cooks, WR Oregon State
 
The reigning Belitnikoff Award winner had 128 receptions for 1730 yards and 16 TD's in 2013. For a guy who's only 5'10" and 189 lbs that's very impressive. Hell, that's impressive no matter what size he is. His combine was mind blowing. 4.33 40, 16 Reps, 10' Broad jump, 36" Vert and a 6.76 3-cone. He has great hands, exceptional route running ability, explosive speed and ankle braking change of direction skills. He's a bigger, stronger, faster version of Jackson. He can play inside, outside; he can catch over the middle, underneath or be a deep threat. His versatility is really unmatched in this draft and he looks to be one of the most NFL ready of all the WR's except of course for Watkins and Evans who are already off the board. Cooks will add another dynamic piece to the Eagles offense for Kelly to work his magic with.
 
This draft has a ton of talent at WR and I might have been able to get another pass catcher later, but this guy is too good to pass up. 
 
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Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
With the 22nd pick in the 2014 NFL Draft the Philadelphia Eagles select,
 
Brandin Cooks, WR Oregon State
 
This draft has a ton of talent at WR and I might have been able to get another pass catcher later, but this guy is too good to pass up. 
 
I have a sneaky feeling that the Eagles have already written out the draft card the second after releasing Jackson.
 
He's the perfect replacement -- ridiculously fast and a slightly bigger build than DJax (both 5'10", but 175 lb for Djax and 189 lb for Cooks) as Eck noted.
 
Almost as importantly, Cooks is regarded as a very high character guy and a locker room leader. What a welcome change that'd be.
 
P.S. Only question is, will the real life Jets (or another team) pass on Cooks before he gets to the Eagles?
 

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With the 23rd pick in the draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select WR Odell Beckham Jr.
 

 
Alex Smith needs playmakers and Beckham will give the team a versatile receiver opposite Dwayne Bowe. He runs a full route tree, has great hands and has experience returning kicks, which will help cover the loss of Dexter McCluster. If either of the top 2 safeties were still on the board, they would've been a consideration here, but we're happy to add this talented WR to the offense. 
 
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The Bengals select:
 
Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
 

 
All-American in 2012, and Big 12 co-defensive player of the year in 2013.  Fantastic cover corner, can step in and upgrade a secondary that is getting a bit on the older side.
 
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With the 25th pick, the San Diego Chargers select: 
 
Louis Nix III, Defensive Tackle, Notre Dame
 

 
Irish Chocolate is a big boy, a true run-stuffer at a position the Chargers desperately need to upgrade.  Nix should allow Teo and Butler a lot more freedom to roam and make plays in the run game, and take up multiple blockers in the passing game at times.  Though I considered taking a corner, I think CB is a deeper position than DT this year, and we will look to address that in later rounds.  
 
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With the 26th pick, the Cleveland Browns select Marqise Lee, WR USC. Lee relegates Greg Little to the bench and is part of a formidable receiving corps with Gordon, Hawkins and Cameron.
 
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I'm pretty torn here - some of the needs (CB, C, WR) don't align with the value here, or I don't like the top players available at those positions. Also, pretty much everyone here has red flags. So I'm going to go with a "fit" pick, a guy who maybe isn't at the top of some boards, but seems like an ideal contributor for New Orleans:
 
With the 27th selection, the Saints select OLB Kyle Van Noy from BYU.

 
Van Noy has been a productive college player, with 226 tackles (62 for loss), 26 sacks, 17 forced fumbles, and 7 picks for the Cougars. He's a versatile guy who can provide heat rushing the passer but also drop back in coverage. Ryan defenses love to create confusion with their fronts, and Van Noy will play right into that. He's a great piece for an improving Saints D that took off when it switched to a 3-4 scheme last year.
 
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The Panthers were hoping one of Lee, Beckham or Cooks would have fallen to the 28th pick which would have made this a much easier selection.  
 
The preferred option at this point would be to trade out of the first round and pick up an extra pick in the process.  But since that isnt happening ...
 
The Panthers will instead attempt to fill one of their major holes, created thanks to the loss of Steve Smith, and will select
 
Kevlin Benjamin, WR from Florida State
 

 
At 6-5 and 240lbs, Benjamin gives the Panthers the big strong target that they have been looking for even before Steve Smith's departure.  Benjamin has to work on his hands but should still give Cam Newton the target he needs.  
 
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So many different directions to go here. D line, TE, Secondary... With all the names on the board I can see the Pats trading back here. Since that's not an option I have a tough decision to make. The top three DT's on the board right now are all very good but not without their flaws. There are some secondary pieces that are talented but i'm not sure they're worth the pick here. Then there are the two TE's who would be big weapons in the Pats offense. 
 
Ultimately this kids physical skills are too impressive to pass on, and I knew for certain after reading this Ra'Shede's Road: The improbable path tha 
 
With the 29th pick The New England Patriots select
 

 
Ra'shede Hageman, DL Minnesota
 
The 6'6" 320 lb monster is one of the most physically imposing players to come out of college football this year. He has freakish athletic ability for his size and uses that to collapse the pocket and overwhelm opposing linemen. He's strong, explosive and is very rarely contained. The only red flag with this kid is that he's raw and can get sidetracked. I think New England is a perfect situation for him. BB and crew can help him focus his abilities on the field and advise him off the field. A front four of Jones, Kelly, Wilfork and Hageman would be a nightmare for opposing offenses.
 
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Ok the Niners will take Bradley Roby. We need secondary help and while Roby had a down year he oozes talent and is good value here.

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Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
So many different directions to go here. D line, TE, Secondary... With all the names on the board I can see the Pats trading back here. Since that's not an option I have a tough decision to make. The top three DT's on the board right now are all very good but not without their flaws. There are some secondary pieces that are talented but i'm not sure they're worth the pick here. Then there are the two TE's who would be big weapons in the Pats offense. 
 
Ultimately this kids physical skills are too impressive to pass on, and I knew for certain after reading this Ra'Shede's Road: The improbable path tha [/size]
 
With the 29th pick The New England Patriots select
 

 
Ra'shede Hageman, DL Minnesota
 
The 6'6" 320 lb monster is one of the most physically imposing players to come out of college football this year. He has freakish athletic ability for his size and uses that to collapse the pocket and overwhelm opposing linemen. He's strong, explosive and is very rarely contained. The only red flag with this kid is that he's raw and can get sidetracked. I think New England is a perfect situation for him. BB and crew can help him focus his abilities on the field and advise him off the field. A front four of Jones, Kelly, Wilfork and Hageman would be a nightmare for opposing offenses.
 
Edit: fraggles inbox is full
Wow, amazing article. Great pick, too.
 

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Bosox4416 said:
Wow, amazing article. Great pick, too.
 
The article describes him as wearing a white jersey when they played Nebraska, but the picture at the top of the article shows him lining up against Nebraska linemen wearing a maroon jersey.  I call shennaigans. 
 
But seriously great article.  I like the pick for the Pats, I think you are in the right position.  I prefer Tuitt to Hageman, but I am not a professional scout nor employeed by the New England Patriots, so my opinion doesn't matter all that much. 
 

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With the 31st pick in the draft, the Packers select TE Troy Niklas (6'6" 270 lbs) of Notre Dame.  Since Jermichael Finley got hurt, the Packers have been hurting for a good tight end.  Niklas is not as good of a receiver as ASJ and Amaro right now, but he is superior in the run game.  His footwork and technique are vastly advanced for his age.    I think he's just scratching the surface as a receiver.  If he can polish his route-running, he'll be a major red zone target for Aaron Rodgers.  Now, he still has some development to go through but IMO he has the 2nd highest ceiling of any TE in this draft next to Ebron.
 
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Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
Niklas over Amaro? Ballsy pick. 
Amaro is a talent, but how much of it was a product of the offense?  He's not a great blocker at all, so he better be a damn good receiver.  After studying him, I think he's closer to Gavin Escobar than he is to an Aaron Hernandez-type.
 

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Amaro is a talent, but how much of it was a product of the offense?  He's not a great blocker at all, so he better be a damn good receiver.  After studying him, I think he's closer to Gavin Escobar than he is to an Aaron Hernandez-type.
 
Everything I've read has him as an adequate blocker. The only knock was an inconsistent motor in doing so. It's not like that's something he can't be taught to do better either. He put up 28 reps so strength isn't an issue. I think it's a bad idea to overlook him, but YMMV. I think Niklas is solid. I think Amaro is a possible star. 
 

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As the SoSH-Giants GM, I had Niklas pegged at 43.  He's a great combo of in-line blocking and receiving with room to grow physically and skills-wise.  Not a sexy pick, but an excellent football pick.
 
This draft is going to be something else.  Our top-18 picks here are almost exactly the top-18 I've seen in every mock and big board.  But that next tier of players seem to be going anywhere from 20-55.  Lining up your guy in the late-1st/2nd round is going to be nearly impossible.  
 

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Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
 
Everything I've read has him as an adequate blocker. The only knock was an inconsistent motor in doing so. It's not like that's something he can't be taught to do better either. He put up 28 reps so strength isn't an issue. I think it's a bad idea to overlook him, but YMMV. I think Niklas is solid. I think Amaro is a possible star. 
The other concern with Amaro's blocking is just how little he was used as a classic in-line TE - just 12% of the time per this link. His blocking abilities in a conventional TE role are definitely a question mark, and if a team plans to use its TE in-line most of the team, preferring Niklas makes sense.
 

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Super Nomario said:
The other concern with Amaro's blocking is just how little he was used as a classic in-line TE - just 12% of the time per this link. His blocking abilities in a conventional TE role are definitely a question mark, and if a team plans to use its TE in-line most of the team, preferring Niklas makes sense.
 
Great link SN. I can see the motivation behind making the pick. In real life I'm hoping Niklas falls to the Pats so it's not like I don't see the talent there. I just have a hard time saying someone can't do something if he wasn't put in the position due to the scheme he was in. Amaro could prove to be an excellent blocker if given the chance.
 

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Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
 
Great link SN. I can see the motivation behind making the pick. In real life I'm hoping Niklas falls to the Pats so it's not like I don't see the talent there. I just have a hard time saying someone can't do something if he wasn't put in the position due to the scheme he was in. Amaro could prove to be an excellent blocker if given the chance.
Maybe, but you can't give him credit for blocking he hasn't done, either. You can also flip it around and ask what kind of production Niklas would have had if he'd played in an offense that passed as much as Texas Tech (55 pass attempts per game versus 33 for Notre Dame) and got to play in the slot as much as Amaro (just 12% in-line as previously noted, while Niklas was in-line 71% of the time).
 

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Maybe, but you can't give him credit for blocking he hasn't done, either. You can also flip it around and ask what kind of production Niklas would have had if he'd played in an offense that passed as much as Texas Tech (55 pass attempts per game versus 33 for Notre Dame) and got to play in the slot as much as Amaro (just 12% in-line as previously noted, while Niklas was in-line 71% of the time).
 
Very true. We're in agreement.
 

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67YAZ said:
As the SoSH-Giants GM, I had Niklas pegged at 43.  He's a great combo of in-line blocking and receiving with room to grow physically and skills-wise.  Not a sexy pick, but an excellent football pick.
 
This draft is going to be something else.  Our top-18 picks here are almost exactly the top-18 I've seen in every mock and big board.  But that next tier of players seem to be going anywhere from 20-55.  Lining up your guy in the late-1st/2nd round is going to be nearly impossible.  
 
You know what that means....
 
...BB trades with Eagles/49ers/Whomever to get out of 1st and pick up #2, #5, and a #6. 
 

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You know what that means....
 
...BB trades with Eagles/49ers/Whomever to get out of 1st and pick up #2, #5, and a #6. 
Definitely dealing with Andy Reid for a 3rd and next year's 1st.
 

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I got some good offers for #32 (better than I expected quite honestly), but I think I am just going to go ahead and pick a guy that isn't this high on many draft boards, but isn't going to make it to #64 either, so I don't want to take the chance on missing out on him.  With McQuistan and Giacomini out of the door heading to other places, OL was a priority in this draft.  I'm picking a guy that I think will fit in well, possibly at RT, but maybe at G as well if that doesn't work out.  He doesn't play in a ZBS scheme, but I think his skill set will enable him to pick it up quickly and thrive.  He's got a good motor and a solid mean streak that seems to be a positive attribute that Tom Cable likes.
 
With the 32nd and final pick of the first round, the Seattle Seahawks select Joel Bitonio, OT, Nevada
 
Besides, how can you not like a mug like this:
 

 
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I assure you he wouldn't have made it past the Cardinals and maybe even the Raiders. I don't think he's an overreach given the Seahawks needs and their Draftpposition.
 

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SeoulSoxFan said:
 
You know what that means....
 
...BB trades with Eagles/49ers/Whomever to get out of 1st and pick up #2, #5, and a #6. 
I think it's more likely they take someone at 29 that most of the prognosticati have as the #50 prospect, since they won't be able to guess where those players might go behind them.
 

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Super Nomario said:
I think it's more likely they take someone at 29 that most of the prognosticati have as the #50 prospect, since they won't be able to guess where those players might go behind them.
 
That assumes they have a clear #1 on their board -- which may not be the case.
 
Sure he's moved up for Hightower and Jones but the past history tells me he'd rather take chances on #2, #3, #4 on their board on later rounds with more picks, no?
 

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With the 33rd pick of the draft, the Houston Texans select Cyrus Kouandijo, Offensive Tackle, Alabama
 

 
Kouandijo is a perfect fit for a run-first team, and fits in well with the Texans, because he can play Right Tackle given Duane Brown's entrenched place on the blind side at LT.  Kouandijo is not a particularly fast player, and he profiles better as a right tackle, at least initially, due to his lack of quickness but dominating run blocking record.  Kouandijo has prototypical size at 6'6, 315+.  There are reports that some teams are concerned about arthritis in Koaundijo's knee, but Koaundijo has been adamant that his knee is fine and he is ready to go.  Kouandijo will give Manziel protection on the right side of the line, and open up plenty of holes for Arian Foster and company.    
 
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The Bears are interested in trading up from #51 into the #34-40 range.  PM lines are open if anyone is looking to move down for extra picks (this year or next).
 

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Chart updated with all first round picks, with results of the first two polls added:
 

 
 
Also added two NEW polls for the best picks #11-#32.
 

Phragle

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Jan 1, 2009
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The Snyders will take CJ Mosley. He's not flashy, he's not super athletic, but he can do it all and gets it done. He's a three down player, play caller, and a leader. I think he's similar to Lavonte David or Sean Lee.
 
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triniSox

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With pick #35, the Cleveland Browns select David Yankey, OL Stanford.
 
Yankey is an athletic, mobile guard who can help kickstart the woeful Browns running game. He is the best pulling guard in the draft. Yankey offers great versatility having played 4 of the 5 offensive line positions at Stanford. I see that a lot of people are supposedly down on him but my eyes tell me differently. Maybe a reach at 34? I don't care. Time to trust my eyes and make the Browns better.
 
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