Sons of Rube Goldberg: MLS 2024-25 Offseason Thread

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MLS Cup 2024 is done and dusted and the LA Galaxy have won their sixth title. Now it's time for what will be a very busy offseason. There are no major changes to the overall roster spending from 2024 to 2025, but with the 30th team joining the league (San Diego FC, another boring Europhile name, alas), it will be more challenging than ever to keep up with what everyone is doing.

It's crazy to think that the 2025 season will be the 30th in league history. It's come a hell of a long way, and still has a good ways to go. I feel a lot of American soccer fans somewhat underrate both the quality of play and the fun/zaniness of it, but one of the big problems the league faces, IMO, is that there's a lack of fan network effects — it's hard to get a feel for the narratives and find people in real life to talk about them, sometimes. Nonetheless, I continue to feel that the long-term growth of American soccer culture and the national teams hinge heavily on our domestic leagues.

Offseason Calendar

This is a list of the MLS-iest roster mechanisms of the winter. More and more players who are out of contract are eligible for free agency, per the latest CBA, but some players with less service in the league go through the Re-Entry Draft and those with the least service are available in the Waiver Draft. All of these rules are created because MLS owners are business nerds who like to create complicated systems that smush player negotiation leverage.

12/9 — half-day trade window to allow teams to make some last adjustments to their roster before the expansion draft
12/11 — expansion draft, San Diego gets to pick five
12/12 — MLS free agency opens, the arcane MLS waiver draft
12/13 — the legendary Re-Entry Draft, stage 1
12/19 — the slightly more active Re-Entry Draft, stage 2
12/20 — the MLS SuperDraft, which still has some useful players, but college soccer gets so little coverage and prognosticating the transition from NCAA to MLS is so hard, that it's a crapshoot from the inside and is a pure "wait and see" thing as a fan by now.

The NWSL got rid of their draft and I'd like to see MLS follow suit. It's not like you are drafting the next NBA superstar here. Most players drafted won't turn out to be better than USL quality, so just let kids find a team that is a good fit for them developmentally, IMO.

Of course, the bulk of the incoming players will be signings from abroad. MLS rules are changing a bit to give teams slightly more flexibility in how they arrange the top of their roster. Nothing life-changing, but a slight move in the right direction.

I always like to watch MLS in general with an eye on young American talent, so I'm curious to see where teams sign more prospects to first-team deals. I think there's been a small lull in the amount of domestic talent coming through the league owing to the 2004/2005/2006-born cohorts lacking a bit of depth, but I expect that to change with the 2007/2008/2009-born cohorts.

Looking Ahead To International Events

After 2023, the CONCACAF Champions League died and the CONCACAF Champions Cup was reborn. There is a constant pendulum across CONCACAF events and LigaMX/MLS collaborations like the erstwhile SuperLiga and the current Leagues Cup in which everyone decries the lack of MLS-LigaMX games and then, when given the games, gets mad about the travel and fixture congestion.

Anyways, the neo-CCC is straight two-legged knockout tournament that consists of four or five rounds, depending on whether you get a bye.

MLS entrants for 2025 include:
Columbus Crew (Leagues Cup winner)
LA Galaxy (MLS Cup winner)
Vancouver Whitecaps (Canadian Championship winner)
LAFC (Leagues Cup runners-up)
Colorado Rapids (Leagues Cup 3rd place)
Inter Miami (Supporters Shield winner)
FC Cincinnati (next best Supporters Shield team [5th] that didn't otherwise qualify)
Real Salt Lake (next best Supporters Shield team [6th] that didn't otherwise qualify)
Seattle Sounders (next best Supporters Shield team [7th] that didn't otherwise qualify)
Sporting Kansas City (US Open Cup runners-up; the winners LAFC otherwise qualified)

The draw is tomorrow, December 10. Due to MLS dominating the final stages of the 2024 Leagues Cup and therefore getting all the Leagues Cup slots, as well as the bonus Canadian Championship slot, there are ten MLS teams and only six Mexican teams. Hopefully that means more MLS teams will get past the perilous pre-season-form February and March games and be able to take their best shot when they round into shape.

The Mexican big guns – América, Tigres, Monterrey, Cruz Azul — will all be there. And also some teams that think of themselves as big guns, but who aren't, really: Chivas and Pumas.


This tournament will wrap up by June 1, with one round played approximately every month (Feb, March, early April, late Apr / early May, June 1 final)

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We also have the 2025 FIFA Club World Cup, hosted in the US, and the first large-format CWC. Each of the last four CONCACAF champions qualify, which includes the Seattle Sounders, who won the 2022 edition. The host slot has been granted to Inter Miami for having Lionel Messi winning the 2024 Supporters Shield.

Seattle got a very bad draw, with PSG, Atlético Madrid, and Botafogo.

Miami's was somewhat friendlier, with Palmeiras, Porto, and Al Ahly.

Neither will be expected to advance, but hopefully they're able to acquit themselves respectably.


Coaching and Front Office Changes

I'd say that MLS clubs, on the whole, have developed somewhat itchier trigger fingers with coaches over recent years, which is probably an appropriate shift because there have been some managers in this league who have had an awfully long leash.

There are a lot of changes heading in 2025.

Atlanta: fired Gonzalo Pineda in June; Rob Valentino has been interim but won't get the job. Status: OPEN

Austin:
fired Josh Wolff in October. Status: hired Nico Estévez

Chicago:
Frank Klopas, who was essentially a year-long interim, left. Status: hired Gregg Berhalter as both manager and director of football

FC Dallas: fired Nico Estévez in June; hired Peter Luccin as interim. Status: hired Eric Quill,a former reserve team manager who had left to coach New Mexico United in the USL

Inter Miami: Tata Martino resigned; word is that he had a falling out with some of their big name players. Status: Hired Javier Mascherano

NYCFC:
fired Nick Cushing after the season. Status: OPEN

Philadelphia:
fired Jim Curtin after the season; he and Ernst Tanner never had a great relationship. Status: OPEN, but rumored to be Thomas Letsch, last of VfL Bochum

San Diego FC: expansion team coached by former FC Dallas academy / US U20 / USMNT assistant / USMNT interim Mikey Varas

San Jose
: fired Luchi Gonzalez in June; Ian Russell served as interim. Status: hired Bruce Arena as manager and sporting director

St. Louis:
fired Bradley Carnell in July; John Hackworth served as interim. Status: hired Olof Mellberg

Toronto:
John Herdman resigned in scandal. Status; OPEN

Vancouver:
fired Vanni Sartini after the season. Status: OPEN


It's doubtful that anyone else will get canned at this point, so that's five openings to be filled. Some of them are fairly attractive positions.


Selected Team Narratives

Inter Miami is the most internationally famous and splashiest team now with Messi & friends on board. They quite good in 2024 — they set the single-season points record even though Messi missed considerable time, but they had clear flaws that manifested themselves in crunch time. They'll need to shore up the defense over the offseason. It's unclear how much cap space they'll have to do so.

Atlanta is by far the best-supported club in MLS, but they've been underperforming lately. They got Garth Lagerwey on board before the 2023 season as president/CEO and he's finally cleaned house of some incumbents (manager Gonzalo Pineda, GM Carlos Bocanegra). They've just missed on a lot of expensive signings and need to do better. Lagerwey has had so much success with RSL and Seattle that I expect them to sort it out sooner rather than later.

NYCFC broke ground on their stadium in Queens last week. Getting this done in the five boroughs has been a white whale for the league and it should be huge for the league's ability to break through in the country's largest city to a bigger extent.

I'm not super optimistic about the Revs given that Caleb Porter is kicking around. I'm also not a huge believer in sporting director Curt Onalfo. However, it's clear that a big roster overhaul is underway, so we'll see. I'm excited to watch the growth of Peyton Miller (Unionville, CT), who just turned 17 after the season ended, and who is a big LB prospect for the Revs, for the US U20s, and is a legit USMNT prospect if he develops.

LA Galaxy have the potential to be a force for a good while. Their GM, who was previously an underling in LAFC's front office of all places, has been great and if he can continue to iron out the kinks (kinda soft defense) they'll be a tough team to face. As a USMNT fan, what I really want is for LA Galaxy or LAFC (or ideally both) to do better on the academy front — both these teams should be cranking out big-time players constantly, and that hasn't happened.

Chicago Fire have been just spectacularly bad for so long. They've made the playoffs just once in the last 12 years, which is really hard to do in this league. Everyone loves to hate Gregg Berhalter, but I expect that he'll improve them quite a bit. He'll fare better when he can do his own shopping instead of spending his days attempting to pound square pegs into round holes with the USMNT.

Columbus has been awesome under Wilfried Nancy, but came up short in the playoffs (and in CCC, though to be fair they were annihilated by diarrhea in Pachuca...). I keep expecting someone in Europe to grab Nancy, but otherwise it seems likely that they'll keep rolling.

Anyway, feel free to chime in with your team.
 

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Gregg is busy remaking the squad already. Gone are Herbers (the last of the pre-Mansueto players), Czichos, Koutsias, and Richey. Omsberg and Casas both have expiring contracts, but there have been talks to keep them with the club.

The Fire have 1 DP slot and 1 U22 slot open. They can get another DP slot if they buy out Gimenez or otherwise move him (editor's note: it will have to be a buy out).

So the squad's core looks like Acosta, Guti, Brady, & Cuypers. Everyone expects Guti & Brady to level up under real coaching from Gregg, but that's still not enough.

Director Berhalter will have a lot of work to do this winter to provide coach Gregg with a competitive roster. Every position group, outside of keeper, needs additional players.
 

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Some early moves of note:

1. FC Cincinnati have struggled to replace Brandon Vazquez's production at center forward ever since he was sold to Monterrey, so they've already gone out and spent $16.2m on Togolese international Kevin Denkey from Cercle Brugge. This is the MLS record transfer fee, narrowly beating the $16m Atlanta paid for Thiago Almada. Denkey is pretty young — just 23 — and led the Belgian league (by far) with 27 goals last season and he's one off the lead this year. He's the profile of a player who would normally be moving up to a top league in Europe, so he'll have huge expectations on him with Cincinnati.

Cincinnati also converted 24 year old Argentine winger / wingback Luca Orellano's contract from a loan to a permanent signing from Vasco da Gama. He was a huge addition last year.

2. We also have a huge outgoing transfer: Inter Miami has sold 21 year old Paraguayan midfielder Diego Gomez to Brighton for something in the range of $15m. It's good business for Miami, who signed him from Libertad just 18 months ago.

3. Nashville signed 23 year old Norwegian central midfielder Edvard Tagseth from Rosenborg. He has a Liverpool academy pedigree, but he returned to Norway without breaking into the team.

4. St. Louis signed 28 year old German center back Timo Baumgartl. This guy has a pretty solid resume — five years with Stuttgart, mostly in the Bundesliga, two years with PSV, and then 1.5 years with Union Berlin.

5. The Revs signed 26 year old Malian center back Mamadou Fofana, who began his career in Turkey and since has played mostly in Ligue 2 with Metz and Amiens. He does have 44 caps for Mali. With Arreaga, Mensah, and Parker gone and Romney traded it looks like he has a good chance of being a key figure for the Revs. Speaking of Romney, he was packaged with Ian Harkes and Mark-Anthony Kaye as a major salary & roster dump in a deal to San Jose. Lots of work to do to round out the roster this winter.

6. Some offseason roster cleaning: Austin bought out Gyasi Zardes' contract. He's been a valuable forward for teams in the league for a long time, but his productivity has fallen way off lately. Atlanta sold Argentine midfielder Santiago Sosa to Racing Club. Sosa came from River Plate in 2021 and was supposed to be a big deal, but he never quite panned out. This opens up a U22 slot for Atlanta.

7. RSL signed 21 year old winger Tyler Wolff. He's had some moments and could be crafted into a pretty useful MLS player.

8. LAFC traded 21 year old Colombian forward Tomas Angel and a lower round draft pick to San Diego in exchange for some GAM. He arrived from Atlético Nacional a year ago, but didn't make a huge impact and was eventually loaned to Phoenix Rising in the USL. Fun fact: he's the son of longtime Aston Villa forward and NYRB legend Juan Pablo Angel.

9. The Colorado Rapids did Colorado Rapids things, picking up some useful MLS vets from Cincinnati. In exchange for a relatively hefty $1.2m in GAM, they got a pair of center backs: 27 year old Nigerian Chidozie Awaziem and 24 year old American Ian Murphy. They also pulled off an amusing player-less trade with Philadelphia, in which they acquired all eight of Philly's draft picks from the 2025-2027 college drafts in exchange for up to $600k in GAM. This is an extremely Ernst Tanner move, since he has absolutely zero interest in the draft. But in the Union's defense, they have so many prospects coming through their academy that they'll need roster space for them all.

10. Some academy signings:

NYRB signed 15 year old central midfielder Adri Mehmeti ('09)

SKC signed 16 year old CB Ian James ('08) and 16 year old GK Jack Kortkamp ('08). Both are refugees from the Minnesota area (the MNU academy is notoriously bad) and have gotten recent looks with the U17 national team.
 

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Wise investment of all that money they saved by firing writers.
 

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Today I learned Sports Illustrated is still around.
I'm not sure I fully understand what's going on, but I think there's a holding company that retains the rights to the Sports Illustrated brand, and that they've launched some sort of ticket company that is likely the primary driver of the business.
 

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The Fire signed David Poreba to a first team contract. Poreba was Next Pro MVP & Golden Boot winner this past season (18 goals & 6 assists in 28 matches) in his age 21 season.

Poreba was a Hietz Special - signed on a free from Stal Mielec II (Poland) & loaned back for a couple season before a Next Pro season with Charlotte's team & finally last year with the Fire II. I will be interested to see how much of the Heitz-era international youth scouting remains as a durable capacity & how much left with Heitz.

The striker group currently looks like Cuypers & Barlow, so Poreba definitely can definitely earn some playing time this season.
 

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The Fire signed David Poreba to a first team contract. Poreba was Next Pro MVP & Golden Boot winner this past season (18 goals & 6 assists in 28 matches) in his age 21 season.

Poreba was a Hietz Special - signed on a free from Stal Mielec II (Poland) & loaned back for a couple season before a Next Pro season with Charlotte's team & finally last year with the Fire II. I will be interested to see how much of the Heitz-era international youth scouting remains as a durable capacity & how much left with Heitz.

The striker group currently looks like Cuypers & Barlow, so Poreba definitely can definitely earn some playing time this season.
Poreba is a Chicagoland local who spent time in the Fire academy as a kid, so it's not exactly a massive player ID endeavor to keep tabs on him. It looks like he left the Fire at some point for another local club (Chicago FC United) and then made a few appearances for Stal Mielec in the Polish league before the loans to Charlotte's reserves and then to Chicago's reserves. The Chicago II loan was converted into a permanent move over the summer and now he's gotten the call up.

Looking at his TM page, he has an interesting profile. He was strictly a CM prior to this season, when the Fire used him at CM, DM, forward, and even on the wings a few times. They call him a midfielder in the signing announcement, so I suppose that's probably where he'll play the most. For whatever reason, his goal/assist numbers with Chicago II last year were just as prolific from the midfield as they were when he was playing forward.

He has an interesting career path so far, I'm rooting for him to become a solid MLS contributor.
 

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The CONCACAF Champions Cup draw was made, and it came out in a sort of lopsided way.
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This quarter of the draw is almost certainly going to produce an MLS semifinalist because, duh, but it's a shame that Columbus, LAFC, and Miami are all in this section together.
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Congrats in advance to Monterrey or Pumas for making the semifinals from this quarter. Vancouver ain't walking through that door.


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Only one MLS team in this section. Seattle should get out of the first round without too much trouble, but it will be a real slog after that. Cruz Azul and then probably América is very tough.


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MLS should get two cracks to take down Tigres here — and the league representatives here are good — but that's easier said than done.
 

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Poreba is a Chicagoland local who spent time in the Fire academy as a kid, so it's not exactly a massive player ID endeavor to keep tabs on him. It looks like he left the Fire at some point for another local club (Chicago FC United) and then made a few appearances for Stal Mielec in the Polish league before the loans to Charlotte's reserves and then to Chicago's reserves. The Chicago II loan was converted into a permanent move over the summer and now he's gotten the call up.

Looking at his TM page, he has an interesting profile. He was strictly a CM prior to this season, when the Fire used him at CM, DM, forward, and even on the wings a few times. They call him a midfielder in the signing announcement, so I suppose that's probably where he'll play the most. For whatever reason, his goal/assist numbers with Chicago II last year were just as prolific from the midfield as they were when he was playing forward.

He has an interesting career path so far, I'm rooting for him to become a solid MLS contributor.
Ah, thanks for the additional deets. I read that his family moved back to Poland, which is how he ended up there. But makes sense that he was already in the club radar.

Some in the Fire-sphere see him as a false 9 type that provides a different option from Cuypers’ modern 9 style & Barlow’s occupy space & miss the target style.

I can imagine how Gregg could use a false 9, but still struggle to see how Guti fits into any system we’ve seen from Gregg in recent years. They’re both smart, so I expect they will make it work - hopefully in a way that lets Guti flourish - but it’s a big one to watch.
 

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A few more in-house signings on top of David Poreba:

1. LAFC signed 16 year old central midfielder Jude Terry to a first team contract. He's supposed to be a pretty big prospect within his age group ('08).

2. Seattle signed 23 year old left back Travian Sousa to a first team deal from their reserve team. He had a short stint at Hamburg that went nowhere a few years ago, and a similarly fruitless year with SKC's reserves. I'm pretty sure he was seen as a solid prospect with some maturity issues, so hopefully his progress with Tacoma and subsequent first team deal is a sign he's sorted it out. They also signed a 23 year old CB, Leo Burney, who qualifies as a homegrown player due to his academy history, but who just finished four seasons at Penn.

And some San Diego-centric stuff:

3. Before the expansion draft, there are often small deals for players that also include handshake agreement for the expansion team to not take any players from the trading partner. San Diego picked up some cheap, domestic depth players by acquiring 24 year old GK C.J. dos Santos from Miami 27 year old CB Christopher McVey from DC. Both likely backups when their done building the roster, IMO.

4. San Diego took CM Heine Gikling Bruseth from Orlando, LB Hamady Diop from Charlotte, and CM Jasper Loffelsend from Colorado.

Bruseth is a U22 Initiative signing that Orlando paid $2m for. I wonder if San Diego just got a $2m player for a nominal fee, but I'm not sure if that's how it works. Diop was the #1 overall pick in the 2023 draft, but hasn't done anything yet and spent half of last year on loan in Serbia. Loffelsend is useful depth.

They also took Brazilian forward Thiago Andrade from NYCFC and flipped him to Toronto and took CM Hosei Kijima from St. Louis and flipped him to DC. Both netted San Diego FC some GAM — or for the uninitiated, basically tradable salary cap space.
 

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The Sounders are apparently deep in discussion with FC Dallas to acquire Paul Arriola and Jesus Ferreira. Fans up here are unhappy because they think this might be Seattle's "big move" of the offseason.

I'm not sure if it is or not, but Seattle has a lot of competitions this year and having very quality depth and flexibility on the roster is a good thing.
 

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The Sounders are apparently deep in discussion with FC Dallas to acquire Paul Arriola and Jesus Ferreira. Fans up here are unhappy because they think this might be Seattle's "big move" of the offseason.

I'm not sure if it is or not, but Seattle has a lot of competitions this year and having very quality depth and flexibility on the roster is a good thing.
The concern with Ferreira is whether he'll stay healthy, but aside from that he's a big talent in the league. This seems like a classic case of American fans underrating fringe USMNTers who they find irritating in the USMNT context.

Arriola would only come if Dallas eats a hefty chunk of his salary, I'd imagine.


Ferreira would be a DP, but the Sounders are only using one right now (on de la Vega), right?
 

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The concern with Ferreira is whether he'll stay healthy, but aside from that he's a big talent in the league. This seems like a classic case of American fans underrating fringe USMNTers who they find irritating in the USMNT context.

Arriola would only come if Dallas eats a hefty chunk of his salary, I'd imagine.


Ferreira would be a DP, but the Sounders are only using one right now (on de la Vega), right?
Yeah, they only have one under contract, though in theory they will bring Rusnak back as a DP.

I'd love to have Ferreira and I like the idea of getting some fringe USMNT guys in the runup to the World Cup as well.
 

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Yeah, they only have one under contract, though in theory they will bring Rusnak back as a DP.

I'd love to have Ferreira and I like the idea of getting some fringe USMNT guys in the runup to the World Cup as well.
From some reports, it sounds like they are trying to get Ferreira to restructure his contract so he doesn't count as a DP. I'm not entirely clear what they can dangle as a sweetener when he'd be taking a short-term pay cut.
 

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From some reports, it sounds like they are trying to get Ferreira to restructure his contract so he doesn't count as a DP. I'm not entirely clear what they can dangle as a sweetener when he'd be taking a short-term pay cut.
A chance to play in cold weather on turf?!?!

Seriously, though, this is where the Byzantine MLS roster rules cause so many issues.
 

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A few of off the cuff theories:

Putting all the matches on a paid service is cutting into casual viewership & gives Fox less incentive to promote the league when it carries fewer matches.

Making Messi the face of the league is great when he’s playing, but deflates interest when he’s not.

And Columbus is a much more invested market. NYC is bigger, but the Crew has a very passionate base.
 

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It's hard to know exactly how bad those numbers are without knowing what the Apple TV numbers are, but Apple is not transparent about that stuff. Execs are saying that numbers are up this year, but who knows.

I think the Olympics sucked some momentum and attention out of the season.

I also think the relative weakness of the 2004-2006 classes of American prospects compared to those in front of and behind them means that the "exciting young age 18-20 American player" hook wasn't as strong last year.
 

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MLS on linear is in a spiral where the networks already cared so little which was the reason they pulled almost everything to a pay service in the first place and that pull uh hasn't exactly made networks more eager to promote the scraps.

It's basically sink or swim on the Apple deal at this point, the linear almost isn't relevant.
 

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It's hard to know exactly how bad those numbers are without knowing what the Apple TV numbers are, but Apple is not transparent about that stuff. Execs are saying that numbers are up this year, but who knows.

I think the Olympics sucked some momentum and attention out of the season.

I also think the relative weakness of the 2004-2006 classes of American prospects compared to those in front of and behind them means that the "exciting young age 18-20 American player" hook wasn't as strong last year.
Apple TV+ averaged 287,000 viewers during the match according to Neilson. That includes all programming on the service, so if we take the same window from a week prior with no live MLS match and subtract that viewership (222,000), we can estimate the Apple TV MLS Cup audience at just 65,000 viewers.
https://puck.news/espn-prepares-the-deion-sanders-playbook-for-bill-belichick-at-unc/
 

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Apple TV+ averaged 287,000 viewers during the match according to Neilson. That includes all programming on the service, so if we take the same window from a week prior with no live MLS match and subtract that viewership (222,000), we can estimate the Apple TV MLS Cup audience at just 65,000 viewers.
https://puck.news/espn-prepares-the-deion-sanders-playbook-for-bill-belichick-at-unc/
I can't see behind the paywall of that article, but I wonder if this is the right analysis?

MLS Season Pass is a streaming service on the Apple TV platform. Apple TV+ is also a streaming service on the Apple TV platform. In addition, MLS Cup streamed for free on the Apple TV platform. So people who watched MLS Cup on Apple TV, whether through Season Pass or through the free stream on the Apple TV app won't show up on the Apple TV+ streaming numbers because the game wasn't on Apple TV+.

I think.

I'm by no means certain that the Apple TV numbers for MLS Cup are good, but I'm not sure these numbers are meaningful to the question.
 

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Outside of Messi, maybe MLS is more like baseball in that it’s more of a regional sport. Casual fans will keep an eye on a team and watch certain MLS matches, but won’t necessarily watch MLS Cup just because it’s the final.
 

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The Vancouver Whitecaps are for sale.
MLS:
https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/vancouver-whitecaps-fc-ownership-announces-sales-process

The Athletic:
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5992511/2024/12/13/vancouver-whitecaps-sale-process/

The Vancouver Whitecaps ownership group has initiated the process to sell the club.

The group, which includes Greg Kerfoot, Steve Luczo, Jeff Mallett and NBA Hall of Famer and former Brooklyn Nets coach Steve Nash, is looking to secure ownership for the club to continue in Vancouver.

There have been no discussions regarding moving the team, according to sources briefed on the sale talks. The group has retained Goldman Sachs to manage the process.
 

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Transfer Roundup

1. San Diego FC acquired CB Andres Reyes from the Red Bulls for a hefty sum of GAM and a sell-on fee. Reyes was the leader of NYRB's back line, but was a very late scratch for MLS Cup due to a reported illness, though he looked strangely fine after the game on the field and in the locker room. I don't know if there's anything truly to that story, but is it interesting to see a quality 25 year old center back immediately shipped out afterward.

2. Chicago shipped out 20 year old Greek forward Georgios Koutsias on loan to the official Chicago Fire Island of Misfit Toys, sister club FC Lugano in Switzerland. Koutsias looks like yet another highly dubious Georg Heitz signing. They spent $2.5m on him before the 2023 season and used a valuable U22 Initiative slot on him, but he's not made much impact in MLS. But then again, is that surprising for a guy whose only previous experience was a season as a spot starter on a Greek League team where he scored three goals?

Side note, Lugano is becoming a real Remember Some MLS Guys club. Not just guys the Fire want to get off the books like Koutsias, Ignacio Aliseda, and Kacper Pryzbylko, but also non-Fire guys like Milton Valenzuela and Zachary Brault-Guillard.

3. The Revs signed 23 year old Colombian center back Brayan Ceballos from Fortaleza in Brazil's Série A. It looks like he's never been a full-time starter for them, and in the last years has gone on loan to Atlético Junior in Colombia and Dynamo Kyiv. Brazilian reports say the fee is $1.8. Based on this outlay, it seems clear that the Revs expect to go into the season with Ceballos and fellow offseason signing Mamadou Fofana as a brand new starting center back pairing. The only other CBs are newly minted player-coach Andrew Farrell and the unproven Santiago Suarez, so they'll need another depth signing as well.

4. The legendary MLS Re-Entry Draft Stage 1 occurred this week. If you somehow have gotten this far in life without understanding this pillar of human civilization, the Re-Entry Draft is a mechanism that affects players who are out of contract but don't have enough years of service to be eligible for free agency. Basically, teams that take players in this draft must exercise the contract options that their previous clubs had declined, or pay them a similar salary to that of their expired contract. But clubs decline contract options on players they've decided are poor value for their salary, so there are not a lot of bargains to be found here. In the second stage, teams can try to sign players to a smaller salary than their previous contract so there tends to be more action.

Minnesota United took 24 year old CB Kipp Keller, last of Cincinnati
San Diego took 24 year old GK Jacob Jackson, last of San Jose (who got him after the Revs waived him earlier this year)
RSL took 23 year old forward Forster Ajagoi, last of Nashville.



San Diego FC released their inaugural jersey yesterday and claimed that they are selling well. I'm not sure how the metric is tracked or calculated, and I think their jerseys aren't very attractive, but I have hopes that this club will come out of the gates with a high level of support. I think San Diego is a great market for MLS, and soccer in general.

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2. Chicago shipped out 20 year old Greek forward Georgios Koutsias on loan to the official Chicago Fire Island of Misfit Toys, sister club FC Lugano in Switzerland. Koutsias looks like yet another highly dubious Georg Heitz signing. They spent $2.5m on him before the 2023 season and used a valuable U22 Initiative slot on him, but he's not made much impact in MLS. But then again, is that surprising for a guy whose only previous experience was a season as a spot starter on a Greek League team where he scored three goals?
Koutsias has all the physical tools to be a modern 9, but he wants to play like a winger, which he has neither the wheels or technique for. The coaching situation in Chicago did not help - a partial season of Ezra followed by Good Vibes Frank. Koutsias is still young. Hopefully he can use Lugano as a spring board to a club with a strong development system that can mold the enviable athletic traits into a proper striker.
 

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Tom Bogert reports that Atlanta United has hired Chris Henderson as their new sporting director. This feels like a big deal — certainly for them, possibly for Miami as well.

Henderson was Garth Lagerwey's top assistant in Seattle, before leaving to take over in Miami. He managed the roster leading up to and during the Messi Era, and did yeoman's work cleaning out old deadwood, bringing in cheap complementary pieces and young non-famous Latin American imports. Much of this was done despite the handicap of the sanctions Miami received from the league after being caught badly fudging some salary cap numbers with Blaise Matuidi and others. Messi & Friends really could have been less successful if they had had a crap supporting cast.

Henderson now reunites with Lagerwey, who is Atlanta's CEO. I'd be excited about this if I were an Atlanta fan.

Miami pretty clearly has a too-many-cooks situation between their front office, ownership, and Messi's camp. Letting Henderson walk is an interesting decision. The situation behind the scenes in Miami bears monitoring.

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I was looking for something else and came across a story from last month about the NWSL final on CBS - 967,900 viewers average across the match, peaked at 1.1m, up 18% over 2023.
Yeah, these numbers suck.

If you're going to have a spring-summer-fall season, culminating in a fall playoff, the weekend of the big college football conference championship games is the worst possible timing. They were directly up against the SEC championship game (which almost by definition is going to feature two national title aspirants with huge followings).

Just moronic.
 

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Yeah, these numbers suck.

If you're going to have a spring-summer-fall season, culminating in a fall playoff, the weekend of the big college football conference championship games is the worst possible timing. They were directly up against the SEC championship game (which almost by definition is going to feature two national title aspirants with huge followings).

Just moronic.
Yes, competition is a thing and maybe the competition wasn't as stiff in last year's time slot, but I think this is the real effect of putting the whole league behind the apple TV paywall. No one watched all year - so why tune in for the title game?

Hell, this game featured better markets and got half the viewership. League is going to a bad place, but it'll be supported by the big new franchise fees and apple tv for the next decade. Where it goes after that, with attendance and viewership both down... we will see.
 

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It’s hard to diagnose. The paywall poses problems, but also the reason why the league decided to accept a deal with those problems is that we had 25 years of flat growth on linear TV. People weren’t really watching in the old way either.

Ultimately it’s hard to make too many sweeping conclusions without the Apple TV streaming data.

Average attendance is up but the league is still in search of establishing a real national zeitgeist. The narratives aren’t breaking through even though clubs are growing in their local markets, on aggregate.

I hope the league does a better job of marketing in 2025. Consolidating all the games in one time window was a poor idea. One of the benefits of having so many teams is that you can still have enough Sat night games to support their bonus studio programming while still having 2-3 games outside of that window. Have a Sat afternoon and Sunday game at least. I think one thing that happened is that simultaneous games prevented the possibility of all the MLS heads from watching the same games. It’s hard to create any national buzz when there’s no collective experience of watching the same game.

Apple TV is also a confusing platform — I think many people don’t understand the distinction between Apple TV, Apple TV+, and MLS Season Pass. I also don’t think many people know that there are a bunch of non-paywalled games on there every week.

MLS isn’t in a position where they can afford to make these kinds of unforced errors. There’s no route to rapid national ratings growth but the curve can be bent upward from its current state.
 

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Transfer roundup:

1. D.C. United signed 22 year old Brazilian winger João Peglow from Radiomak Radom of the Polish Ekstraklasa. By resume, he started for Brazil's U17s at the World Cup in 2019, then got loaned out by Internacional to a bunch of clubs in Brazil, Porto, and a Ukrainian club, and then got a free transfer to this Polish club back in March.

2. Philly re-signed Alejandro Bedoya who, at 37, is now one of the oldest active American field players.

3. FC Dallas signed 21 year old Brazilian attacking midfielder Pedro Martins to a first team deal. They got him from Flamengo's youth system last year and he put up numbers in MLS Next Pro, 13/8 g/a in 1600 mins.

4. Chicago made a couple of moves. Most notably, they signed free agent CB Jack Elliott, whose entire eight-year pro career has thus far been with the Philadelphia Union. The Union defense had a down year, but at age 29, Elliott should have a bunch of good years left and seems like a sensible "MLS vet" signing to bring some stability to the Fire. Chicago also signed 21 year old winger Omari Glasgow, who has sent the last three years with their reserve team. Fun fact: despite his young age, Glasgow is two international goals away from being Guyana's all-time leading goalscorer.

5. Orlando signed 17 year old academy midfielder Colin Guske ('07) to a homegrown contract.

6. NYCFC transferred 25 year old Uruguayan CM Nicolas Acevedo to Bahia of Brazil's Série A. Acevedo had been on loan to them for two years and has been out of the picture at NYCFC for a while.

7. Minnesota sold 27 year old Mexican CB Miguel Tapias to Chivas for a reported $1m, which also clears up some cap space for them because he was a TAM player.
 

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RYNB invests a DP slot on Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting. What a wild career this guy’s had, but I’ll be surprised if his next act is a star turn in MLS after a minimally productive season at Bayern and 6 months as a free agent.
 
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The 2025 schedule is out and it looks like they took all of our criticism about match times to heart. Games are at all kinds of different times. I'm seeing Seattle home games starting at 1:30 p.m., noon, 5:30, 6:30 and 7:30.

That fucking rules and will really help the league in my opinion.
 

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New England plays in Portland on July 5th. If anyone is thinking of using the long weekend to come here let me know.

I agree that the varying start time is a wonderful thing!
 

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RYNB invests a DP slot on Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting. What a wild career this guy’s had, but I’ll be surprised if his next act is a star turn in MLS after a minimally productive season at Bayern and 6 months as a free agent.
I don't know about this one. At 35, a Euro oldies like this can play a valuable role for an MLS team, but using a DP slot is a little suspect. 35 year old Marco Reus is a useful puzzle piece for LA Galaxy, but they aren't counting on him to be a starter.

The 2025 schedule is out and it looks like they took all of our criticism about match times to heart. Games are at all kinds of different times. I'm seeing Seattle home games starting at 1:30 p.m., noon, 5:30, 6:30 and 7:30.

That fucking rules and will really help the league in my opinion.
Yes, thank god. The weekend toddler naptime slot is back!!! I guarantee you that I will wind up watching more games in 2025 than I did in 2024 because of this change. It does seem like the spreading out of games slows down over the summer, but there are a lot of weekends with Saturday afternoon games and Sunday games.
 

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On Thursday, MLS' very long, very slow match toward increased transparency continued when they published the amount of General Allocation Money (GAM) that each team had available to them at that particular moment. For the uninitiated, I think the simplest way to understand GAM is that it is tradable salary cap space. Teams use it to fit somewhat more expensive players into the salary cap, but it is also the primary currency used for intra-league transfers. MLS teams aren't allowed to pay regular transfer fees for other MLS players (though MLS is rumored to be considering doing away with this rule) and the large majority of trades are player-for-GAM trades. I think owners like the system because they can negotiate a lower salary cap with the MLSPA and then GAM allows them the flexibility to unilaterally increase spending to the exact levels that they think serve their interests.

Because MLS roster rules and salary budget rules are so byzantine, some hardcore fans contend that the league is forgoing the development of armchair GM chatter because of the opaque status of teams' salary budgets and available GAM. It wasn't that long ago that MLS clubs started routinely announcing the structure of player contracts (number of guaranteed + option years). So hopefully we get more information in the future.

One thing that jumps out about this list is that Inter Miami is going to have way more money to spend than what might think based on their current financial commitments. They have $3.3m on this list, which is a bit below average, but they're getting around $3m in GAM from the Diego Gomez sale and they just picked up $2m in 2025 GAM from the Revs in an MLS-record intraleague deal for Leo Campana. If they are able to address their defensive weaknesses — and it certainly looks like they'll have the money to so, look out.

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It's getting hard to keep up with the pace of offseason moves.

1. The Revs traded a boatload of MLS assets ($2.5m GAM, an international slot for 2025-26, a sell-on clause) and potentially $750k more GAM if incentives are hit) for Inter Miami forward Leonardo Campana. He has 28/7 g/a in 4500 minutes over three seasons, which is a good production rate, but he's a bit stuck with Messi and Suarez on board. This is his chance to be the man up top and at age 24 the Revs are getting him in his prime years. He's only making $722,000 per the MLSPA, although if he performs he'll get bumped to a higher salary contract sooner or later (or sold). This marks the end of the Giacomo Vrioni era — he'll likely transfer back to Europe, which will open up a DP slot on the Revs' roster.

The New England Earthquakes and the San Jose Revolution

Perhaps because of the connections between Bruce Arena and Curt Onalfo, these teams have swapped a ridiculous number of players so far. The Revs already shipped Dave Romney, Ian Harkes, and Mark-Anthony Kaye to SJ, but recently the following has also transpired:

2. The Revs signed Jackson Yueill as a free agent. Yueill is still only 27 and has a number of prime years left, so this should be a solid MLS-level signing and Yueill will hopefully be an upgrade over guys like Harkes and Kaye. As bad as the Revs were last year, the Quakes were worse and the Quakes have been consistently depressing for many years now, so I think it's possible that a midfielder with a moderate attacking orientation like Yueill will step up his game a half-notch

3. The Revs also signed Tanner Beason as a free agent. A less prominent Quake than Yueill, Beason will provide CB depth behind Mamadou Fofana and Brayan Ceballos.

4. Meanwhile the Quakes have signed ex-Revs fullback Nick Lima, who is going back to his academy club and original pro team. And they're also rumored to be getting backup GK Earl Edwards in a small trade. Bruce Arena is bringing in his guys, big and small.

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5. The Revs also signed GK Alex Bono. Bono was a starter on those really good Toronto FC teams of the late 2010s, but his career in MLS has mostly been one of a guy who is on the edge of being a meh, below-average starter and an above-average backup. He'll probably start as Ivacic's backup and I think he's better than all the non-Ivacic keepers that the Revs had last year (Ravas, Edwards, Jackson)

6. In a quite significant outgoing transfer, Orlando City sold 24 year old Uruguayan winger Facundo Torres to Palmeiras for a rumored $14m. Torres is a good player, but this feels like good business for him. It's also been interesting to see how much money Brazilian clubs are throwing around lately. MLS clubs are having more success selling guys back to South America for a profit than one might imagine. There are clubs in all the non-EPL top five leagues in Europe for whom $14m would be a club record signing and more for whom it would be very close to it.

7. FC Dallas signed 31 year old Brazilian midfielder Ramiro Benetti from Cruzeiro on a free. He has a lot of Série A experience with Grêmio, Corinthians, and Cruzeiro, but record is not a guy who was always a locked in starter. The word from one American-based Cruzeiro fan that I've heard is that he's a very boring metronome sort of CM who is not great in the tackle and also not particularly inventive. But FC Dallas's sporting director is a Brazilian who overlapped with Ramiro at Grêmio, so sometimes the familiarity is what makes these moves happen.

They also signed free agent CB Lalas Abubakar, who comes from the Rapids.

8. Nashville shipped out CM Sean Davis to LA Galaxy in exchange for CM Gaston Brugman, in a deal that is a classic example of a trade that is impossible to evaluate without knowing the financial obligations of each side. Davis is on ~1m and Brugman is on $1.4m, but who is picking up how much of each salary?

9. DC acquired CB Lukas MacNaughton from Nashville and shipped out CM Mateusz Klich to Atlanta. Klich is a salary cap albatross, and per Goff, Atlanta is only covering $300k of his $2.1m salary(!). But that does free up $300k and a roster spot.

DC's GM on the situation: “We were a little landlocked with his contract.” Hah.

10. NYRB signed 31 year old German CB Alexander Hack. He has a long history as a part-time starter in the Bundesliga for Mainz and recently was in Saudi Arabia. Part-time starters for Mainz-level clubs on the wrong side of 30 are pretty hit-or-miss in MLS, in my experience.

NYRB also shipped 23 year old Brazilian forward Elias Manoel to RSL, who I guess was surplus with Choupo-Mouting on board.

11. San Diego FC signed Anibal Godoy as a free agent. The 34 year old Panamanian has been an old reliable for many years and was a great addition for Nashville as an expansion club. At his age, he's more of a veteran backup locker room guy now.

12. Philly signed 23 year old Argentina CB Ian Glavinovich on loan from Newell's Old Boys. He will be good or he will not be good. The mystery of these types of signings...

13. Some homegrowns!

Atlanta signed central midfielder Will Reilly, a former academy kid who spent four years at Stanford. These types players are basically bonus draft picks since they are older.

Chicago signed attacking midfielder Dylan Borso after one year at Wake Forest. You generally like to see better prospects skip NCAA soccer, but the one-and-done model like this isn't so bad. Borso played academy ball, then got to step up to NCAA soccer for one fall, and is now in the pros.
 

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Probably the biggest Fire offseason story - Mansueto recently met with the Mayor, the local alder, & developer to push forward on a stadium. He’s eyeing the 78, the vacant space that the White Sox pitched earlier this year. It’s a good spot - near Soldier Field, the L, and a highway, with the bonus of having a super-motivated land owner who has been losing money on the site for years.
 

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I don't know much about the 78 property, but looking at it on google maps it looks to be very close to the size of where T-Mobile and Lumen Fields are in Seattle, and there's a decent sized convention hall and parking garage between those stadiums. Both the White Sox and Fire could easily build stadiums in that space if they wanted to.
 

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I don't know much about the 78 property, but looking at it on google maps it looks to be very close to the size of where T-Mobile and Lumen Fields are in Seattle, and there's a decent sized convention hall and parking garage between those stadiums. Both the White Sox and Fire could easily build stadiums in that space if they wanted to.
The developer made that point in one of the local news articles - the property is large enough to host both stadiums plus further development.

But as a practical matter, the White Sox stadium is not gong to happen at that site or anywhere else while Reinsdorf is alive. He’s hated by the fans for driving two beloved sports franchises into the ground. He spent years crowing about how he tricked the state into funding the current stadium - a soulless concrete bowl that replaced a historic park now bathed in sepia-toned nostalgia - with a move-to-Florida-gambit, which he is replaying note for note with Nashville this time. And he’s negotiating it all through the press.

Conversely, Mansueto has been deep into Chicago real estate since he sold Morning Star. He got a Fire practice facility built in the city as well as a West Side multi-sport rec center & dozens of mini-pitches in parks across town. He’s been quietly exploring sites and when a news story does drop about a potential stadium, it’s always after these kinds of meetings have happened so they can be described as “positive” and “constructive.” The Fire might not have the love and public support that the White Sox have as an institution, but Mansueto has built up the connections and relationships to get something done quickly when the right opportunity opens up.

I won’t be surprised if the Fire get a deal in 2025 for the 78 that’s a privately financed stadium with a billion in surrounding infrastructure improvements. (Contrast that to Reinsdorf pitch for the site that was $3b+ for the stadium & infrastructure and no mention of what to do with the existing stadium & it’s debt.)

The other question is if Mansueto can get Ricketts & the Red Stars…er, Stars FC in as tenants. Ricketts also started putting out feelers for a soccer stadium project in the city last summer. There’s no way there’d be support for 2 simultaneously, but the Stars are dying out in Bridgeview. They’re annually near the bottom of NWSL attendance. They desperately need to get into the city & accessible to their fans (present & future). Ricketts might hate being a renter in Mansueto’s house, but a strong run of seasons in the city to build the fan base would put the Stars in a much better position to build something of their own.
 
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If a ~25000 seat soccer specific stadium were built that close to transit it could be AMAZING for both clubs. I know it would be high on my list of away days. If both Portland teams were there on the same weekend there could be several hundred supporters from Portland.

The Fire may not be top of mind sportswise in Chicago, but they are an MLS institution. In 2007 or 2008 as the Timbers Army was growing we got lots of advice from leaders of the Fire supporters groups, I think a few of them even came to Portland.

Thanks for the additional information, I sort of knew that Reinsdorf was not popular, but that's a good reminder. Looking at maps for other major cities, there aren't many better stadium locations (that close to transit, hotels, and other amenities).
 

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If a ~25000 seat soccer specific stadium were built that close to transit it could be AMAZING for both clubs. I know it would be high on my list of away days. If both Portland teams were there on the same weekend there could be several hundred supporters from Portland.

The Fire may not be top of mind sportswise in Chicago, but they are an MLS institution. In 2007 or 2008 as the Timbers Army was growing we got lots of advice from leaders of the Fire supporters groups, I think a few of them even came to Portland.

Thanks for the additional information, I sort of knew that Reinsdorf was not popular, but that's a good reminder. Looking at maps for other major cities, there aren't many better stadium locations (that close to transit, hotels, and other amenities).
Oh, hadn’t even considered that kind of Sat/Sun MLS+NWSL doubleheader. Might be a logistical nightmare to do often, but a really clever idea.

A really nice part about Mansueto has been his engagement with Section 8 and the club’s outreach to Latino supporters. Just a little bit of winning - even like a home payoff match - would really fan the flames of local support.
 

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Oh, hadn’t even considered that kind of Sat/Sun MLS+NWSL doubleheader. Might be a logistical nightmare to do often, but a really clever idea.
I looked back over 2024 and in Portland we had 3 times with home games on consecutive nights so it's possible (None were against teams from the same city). It's rough for supporters of both teams, but possible.

In 2017 or so the Thorns played at 1pm and the Timbers at 7:30pm on the same day. That was EXHAUSTING.
 

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I present these rumors that Gaston Gimenez will be headed to Cerro Porteño and off the books at Chicago as an early Christmas present to @67YAZ.

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We’re all dreaming of a better world on Christmas Eve, aren’t we?

if Gregg can clear Gimenez off the books, the Fire will have 2 DPs and a U22 slot. High stakes stuff. Gregg could be setting up a fast-track rebuild or locking in another 3 years of hard times.
 

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12/28 news roundup —

Prior to the holiday, Atlanta named Ronny Deila their new manager. He's a familiar face in MLS, and a successful one, having won the 2021 MLS Cup with NYCFC.

Since then, he's moved to Standard Liège, and then got a bigger job at Club Brugge. He was sacked in March with Brugge in 4th place at the end of the first phase of the Belgian season. Club Brugge went on to dominate the championship round against other top 6 clubs and managed to narrowly win the title, which wasn't the best look for Deila. But in any case, he's in Atlanta now.


Congrats to the Chicago Fire, who were finally able to get out from under Gaston Gimenez's contract; they reached a mutual termination agreement, allowing Gimenez to sign for Cerro Porteño of Paraguay. That being said, they're the idiots who signed him to an extension before the 2023 season. Early days, but things are looking up with Berhalter in town!

FC Dallas shipped fullback Sam Junqua to RSL in exchange for forward/winger Anderson Julio. Having recently acquired Elias Manoel from NYRB, the backup forward situation at RSL was getting busy.

FC Dallas also traded for Shaq Moore from Nashville. Moore is a solid MLS right back, but his salary is a bit high for what he brings to the table, so Dallas acquired him for a token amount of GAM. Nashville will surely need to bring in another right back; how pedigreed their signing is will say a lot about how much they like Julian Gaines.

LAFC signed free agent forward Jeremy Ebobisse. It's interesting to see him land here, where he'll be Olivier Giroud's backup. I suppose after years in San Jose, the promise of being on a team that doesn't totally suck is appealing, and given Giroud's age there will be plenty of minutes for other LAFC forwards. Still, he could have found a situation where he could have had a clearly shot at being the starter if he had wanted.

San Diego FC signed 29 year old GK Pablo Sisniega, who has been around MLS but was last with San Antonio FC. I find this surprising, because they have accumulated backup and youth GK types and I was waiting to see who they were going to bring in as the starter. But Sisniega is another backup GK type and with four keepers on the roster, this might be it. So, it's a great opportunity for Sisniega, C.J. de los Santos, and Jacob Jackson to get some surprising starter minutes in 2025.

The Timber signed winger Ariel Lassiter. He's a real MLS backup journeyman type who is now on his sixth club. Roy Lassiter's son, has nearly 30 caps for Costa Rica, can do a job.



I found this on Bluesky — a journalist keeping a handy depth chart for each team in the league on a Google Sheet.

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