Sons of Arthur Bisguier -- The Chess Thread

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Ding doing his best Donovan McNabb impression down the stretch here.
 

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Clock management was wild that game.
No kidding:
- Ding spent 35 minutes on move FIVE
- Ding then spends 22 minutes on move 6. After that move he had used 62 minutes and 35 seconds of time. In contrast, Gukesh had used 32 seconds
- Gukesh then spends a little over an hour on move eleven
- By move 18, it was 19:33 on the clock for Ding vs 21:48 for Gukesh

Then Ding blundered Qc8 in 27 seconds. Wild is right
 

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Just casually wins on demand playing almost perfect chess. No biggie.

It's almost like he has to be in a spot where he can't be overly cautious and play for a draw for him to shake the nerves and be aggressive. As one of the people in the reddit thread said, "Ding down a game in the WCC is one of the scariest players of all time"
 

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I think Gukesh got overconfident after his win, thought maybe Ding was collapsing, and IMHO played way too ambitiously as black in the opening when all he needed was a draw. This became apparent when he went for Nc6 early.
 

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I think Gukesh got overconfident after his win, thought maybe Ding was collapsing, and IMHO played way too ambitiously as black in the opening when all he needed was a draw. This became apparent when he went for Nc6 early.

I feel like the conventional wisdom is Gukesh pulls it out. I could easily see any of the following happen:

1) Ding cracks under the pressure (or is just a human) and blunders in a way that is punished. He has had some rocky moves, including a blunder on move 40 in the most recent game and the evaluation got high as +1.66 but Gukesh couldn't covert.

2) Ding plays it safe, doesn't push advantages as white (which we've seen already) and tries to make it to tie breakers where he has an advantage in rapid.

3) Gukesh, clearly feeling very confident and willing to accept somewhat subpar positions/turning down draws in difficult situations, overextends and gets punished.
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To be fair, I did basically give multiple options of what could happen so had many options to get it right. Still, I will take the teeny tiny internet victory when I can.

To add to the thread, very interested to see where things go from here. Does Ding go back to his theoretical strategy of playing for draws to gain a potential edge in rapid? Or does this game unleash the Ding(TM) and lead to him playing more aggressive with the white pieces and go for a knockout? I suspect Gukesh will play the same, as it is in his interest to push for a win in the next few games.
 

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To be fair, I did basically give multiple options of what could happen so had many options to get it right. Still, I will take the teeny tiny internet victory when I can.

To add to the thread, very interested to see where things go from here. Does Ding go back to his theoretical strategy of playing for draws to gain a potential edge in rapid? Or does this game unleash the Ding(TM) and lead to him playing more aggressive with the white pieces and go for a knockout? I suspect Gukesh will play the same, as it is in his interest to push for a win in the next few games.
You kind of did it again:)
 

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Ding with an absolutely horrid blunder, good Lord. How does a World Champion not know intermediate Endgame theory? You CANNOT trade rooks there.

He must have forgotten his bishop placement in the moment.
 
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Yeah, mental error. Gukesh was putting pressure on him by playing good moves and time was getting low, so you can sort of see it. But it's still a huge blunder.
 

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Magnus forced to forfeit a game at the World Rapid and Blitz because of a dress code violation. Looks like he's dropping out of the tournament and maybe done with FIDE events for good.
 

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Hans vs. Magnus in the Top 8 Round 1!

Magnus blundered away a win against Hans and they drew in Round 10 of qualifiers.
 

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Hans vs. Magnus in the Top 8 Round 1!

Magnus blundered away a win against Hans and they drew in Round 10 of qualifiers.
Sucks. Anything that gives any oxygen to Hans sucks. I know controversy draws eyeballs, but the game's better when it gets fame for legitimate reasons and not from admitted cheaters splitting hairs.
 

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Sucks. Anything that gives any oxygen to Hans sucks. I know controversy draws eyeballs, but the game's better when it gets fame for legitimate reasons and not from admitted cheaters splitting hairs.
I dunno, Hans is legit becoming a threat now, I think, at least at blitz. Magnus barely escaped today.
 

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I dunno, Hans is legit becoming a threat now, I think, at least at blitz. Magnus barely escaped today.
I'm not saying he's not a talented player. I'm saying he's an admitted cheater and rageholic venue-destroyer who's bad for the game and should be shunned.
 

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He cheated as a kid. Although he went on an unhinged period after the whole St Louis affair, over the last six months his demeanor has changed completely. Probably has been told by adults that this is the only way that he'll get invited to elite events, but lets hope its something permanent as the talent is immense.
 

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Wild ending to the Blitz Championship. Ian vs Magnus, Magnus wins the first 2, Ian wins the second 2, then 3 draws. Magnus asks Ian if he wants to just share the title, Ian says sure, and so that's what they do. The chess reddit page has a lot of feelings about this.