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Yeah, I mean, can he not afford a flight to Columbus?  He's making $660,000.  What's his time worth?
 

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Apparently Woody Harrelson and Matthew McHawnnahey were fans of the Seahawks:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNpIQKA_uAA
 
(True Detective related).
 

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Yeah, I mean, can he not afford a flight to Columbus?  He's making $660,000.  What's his time worth?
 
The season is over, he was likely driving home anyway, no? The special night may have meant he needed to get there a bit sooner.
 

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Right now, Malcolm F'ing Butler is 7 for 7 in Know Your Patriots on NFLN, and he's knocking on the door of a PERFECT SCORE.  He's unbelievable!
 
8 for 8 on the back of Brady's aborted baseball career.  Are we totally certain Belichick didn't actually grow this guy in a lab somewhere?  Do we have verified college footage of him?
 

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"Oh my God, Josh! We fucking did it!"
 
Goosebumps every time.
This is really random, but when Josh screams "that's awesome man," he sounds just like Harry from Dumb and Dumber.
 

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JimBoSox9 said:
Right now, Malcolm F'ing Butler is 7 for 7 in Know Your Patriots on NFLN, and he's knocking on the door of a PERFECT SCORE.  He's unbelievable!
 
8 for 8 on the back of Brady's aborted baseball career.  Are we totally certain Belichick didn't actually grow this guy in a lab somewhere?  Do we have verified college footage of him?
 
Is there video on this?  The only video I could find of Butler on NFLN was him breaking down the play on video and then going into the mock playing field to demonstrate the play.
 
In loosely related news, in addition to everlasting glory and championship rings, Butler's pick earned about $3 million for his teammates.  The difference in Super Bowl shares between the winning and losing team this year was $48k, and most players on the injured/reserve list who played three games get a full share -- so about 60 to 65 guys at $48k each.  He earned that truck.
 
Playoff pay link:  https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1501827-playoff-pay-from-nfl-collective-bargaining.html
 

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This was on the NFL web site. It's a podcast of a Butler interview, but interspersed is some video I hadn't seen before. Best is the overhead view of the pick, with the camera staying on the dogpile after the pick, and then up through when the help Butler up and walk with him to the sideline. Maybe it's posted somewhere else, but I hadn't seen it. Naturally, 11 is the first offensive player to get on the field and congratulate him. Starts around 1:20. Also some shots of Patricia congratulating him.

Putting the video together with what Butler has said, I think the Kearse play was really weighing on him. His emotion after the pick, it sounds like, is not really, "holy shit I just won the Super Bowl," but instead I think it was just relief that he recovered from feeling like he let his teammates down when he got the big chance he was dreaming about.. He's a pretty simple guy, not maybe the smartest or most saavy guy in the world, but so unbelievably genuine and endearing. In the podcast, they ask him ridiculous question like whether Brady should have given him the 15k to pay the taxes on the truck. There's no duplicitousness or sarcasm or careful parsing of answers. He thinks about it for a minute and then just says basically, golly, that's a 2015 brand new Silverado and for just $15,000, that's a pretty good deal. It's maybe inevitable that the media some day is going turn on him a little, because that's what they fucking do -- build you up to tear you down. I so want good things to happen for this kid, and I really hope he gets some good people around him to protect him and keep him path to improve his game.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-england-patriots/0ap3000000470338/Around-the-NFL-Podcast-Malcolm-Butler-on-life-post-Super-Bowl
 

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This was on the NFL web site. It's a podcast of a Butler interview, but interspersed is some video I hadn't seen before. Best is the overhead view of the pick, with the camera staying on the dogpile after the pick, and then up through when the help Butler up and walk with him to the sideline. Maybe it's posted somewhere else, but I hadn't seen it. Naturally, 11 is the first offensive player to get on the field and congratulate him. Starts around 1:20. Also some shots of Patricia congratulating him.
 
Putting the video together with what Butler has said, I think the Kearse play was really weighing on him. His emotion after the pick, it sounds like, is not really, "holy shit I just won the Super Bowl," but instead I think it was just relief that he recovered from feeling like he let his teammates down when he got the big chance he was dreaming about..

http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-england-patriots/0ap3000000470338/Around-the-NFL-Podcast-Malcolm-Butler-on-life-post-Super-Bowl
 
One of the best interviews of Butler I've seen.
 
And yes, absolutely.  Look at Butler when one of the hosts says something like "Oddly enough, you were in coverage on the Kearse catch, so if not for your interception that would have been the play people remembered and you would have been the Rodney Harrison of the Helmet Catch."
 
Butler is nodding frantically, and talks about how he read that pass and was excited to have broken it up, only to see that Kearse was holding the ball and think "Wait a minute..." before trying to punch it out.  He then says he went to the sideline and talks about how he would have felt like he let his entire team down and would not have gotten over it during the offseason.
 
All of that said, I definitely think there's a little bit of both emotions (overwhelming joy and unspeakable relief).  That video of him emerging from the scrum is insane.   And if you look at his face, it's so clear that he does have some clue of what just happened and the magnitude of that play.  He goes from looking like a NFL cornerback making perhaps the greatest play in Super Bowl history to looking like a 24-year-old rookie from West Alabama.
 

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The other thing that's cool about the interview with Butler is when he's asked whether he thought they would run, and his answer is basically, yeah, I thought they would, but I'm there in case they don't.  
 
Truth is, and I know it's not the popular view, I've always viewed "do your job" as something of a platitude.  It seems like a pithy way to encapsulate more complicated ideas, and it's a nice quick motto to put on signs.  Sure it has some effect of focusing players and motivating them, but I never really viewed it as some hallmark of genius that other seem to ascribe to it.
 
But listening to Butler, and particularly watching him after the play, clearly I'm wrong about that.  When you see Butler's reaction, it's obvious how huge that moment was to him and to everyone.  He just was too focused to know it until it happened.  If before the play he had the feeling he had afterwards about how big the moment was, it seems pretty unlikely that he would have been able to perform as well, without locking up.  Too much to ask for pretty much anyone not named Ortiz or Brady, particularly a rookie.  "Do your job" is ultimately Belichick's way to take pressure off guys.  It breaks the situation down to its essence -- You don't have to worry about coaching.  I'm on it.  You don't have to worry about how many time outs we have.  We got a guy for that.  You don't have to worry about field position, the punter and special teams guys are on it if they have to be.  You don't have to worry about blocking.  We got guys for that.  You don't have to worry about the receiver on the other side of the field.  We got a guy over there.  It seems simple, and probably for some guys it just goes in one ear and out the other, but is there any doubt that Butler took it to heart?  In the end, it's really about giving guys confidence.  Yes, the game of football is fucking hard and really complicated.  But that doesn't concern you.  Your individual role in it all is just to control the small corner of it that you can control.  Listening to Butler and watching him, I think "do your job" created the situation where pulling victory out of the jaws of defeat was a possibility.  Because if Butler is thinking about anything else, or even has time to let the enormity of the situation creep in, I don't think he's set up to make that play.  
 

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Absolutely, that's a great way of breaking it down, DDB.  And that's exactly how I feel about the "Do Your Job" mantra. 
 
This is outside the scope of just basking in the triumph, but earlier this week the PFW guys were talking about Belichick's place historically and thought he would suffer because he doesn't have a "thing" he brought to coaching, unlike Bill Walsh and the West Coast offense.  Andy wondered whether it was versatility, but then immediately dismissed that as "too obvious a thing to be his signature."
 
I disagree.  For just about all of NFL history, most teams were what they were and did what they did.  Bill Walsh and the 49ers did what they did better than anyone else for 15 years -- he took the offense he developed under Paul Brown and installed it in SF, and ran his offense incredibly successfully. 
 
But Belichick's teams do the exact opposite: they do whatever you CAN'T do.  On offense, they throw short passes against the Seahawks and run the ball against the Colts.  On defense, they use a small cornerback against the Colts and a big cornerback against the Ravens.   Are these differences exaggerated?  To a degree, of course.  Tom Brady is still his QB, and some plays and packages never change.  But there are real game planning differences, and I think Belichick has been instrumental in encouraging that trend league-wide.
 
Obviously it's more complicated than all that, but if I had to boil it down to a single narrative thread for the purposes of a historical comparison, that would be Belichick's trademark.  And doing that week-to-week -- changing your defense, employing different offensive packages -- requires an overwhelming amount of focus and preparation during the week.  It's easy to see how players could feel lost in a haze of plays and schemes and assignments.  And whenever that happens... they just have to take a breath and remember they only have to do one thing: their job.
 

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Absolutely, that's a great way of breaking it down, DDB.  And that's exactly how I feel about the "Do Your Job" mantra. 
 
This is outside the scope of just basking in the triumph, but earlier this week the PFW guys were talking about Belichick's place historically and thought he would suffer because he doesn't have a "thing" he brought to coaching, unlike Bill Walsh and the West Coast offense.  Andy wondered whether it was versatility, but then immediately dismissed that as "too obvious a thing to be his signature."
 
I disagree.  For just about all of NFL history, most teams were what they were and did what they did.  Bill Walsh and the 49ers did what they did better than anyone else for 15 years -- he took the offense he developed under Paul Brown and installed it in SF, and ran his offense incredibly successfully. 
 
But Belichick's teams do the exact opposite: they do whatever you CAN'T do.  On offense, they throw short passes against the Seahawks and run the ball against the Colts.  On defense, they use a small cornerback against the Colts and a big cornerback against the Ravens.   Are these differences exaggerated?  To a degree, of course.  Tom Brady is still his QB, and some plays and packages never change.  But there are real game planning differences, and I think Belichick has been instrumental in encouraging that trend league-wide.
 
Obviously it's more complicated than all that, but if I had to boil it down to a single narrative thread for the purposes of a historical comparison, that would be Belichick's trademark.  And doing that week-to-week -- changing your defense, employing different offensive packages -- requires an overwhelming amount of focus and preparation during the week.  It's easy to see how players could feel lost in a haze of plays and schemes and assignments.  And whenever that happens... they just have to take a breath and remember they only have to do one thing: their job.
 
I will play too - I think you and DDB are spot on in your analysis.  
 
Above all that, Belichick, more than any other head coach in NFL history, has had to do his job with an ever changing cast of players, save for Brady (and to a lesser degree Wilfork).  The salary cap era has made it considerably more difficult to keep talented players and somehow the Patriots have won four rings and competed for two others with rosters filled with unseasoned/unproven/role- players in key roles.    Doing more with less is absolutely a "thing" or signature and that alone puts BB in the conversation for GOAT.
 

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DennyDoyle'sBoil said:
This was on the NFL web site. It's a podcast of a Butler interview, but interspersed is some video I hadn't seen before. Best is the overhead view of the pick, with the camera staying on the dogpile after the pick, and then up through when the help Butler up and walk with him to the sideline. Maybe it's posted somewhere else, but I hadn't seen it. Naturally, 11 is the first offensive player to get on the field and congratulate him. Starts around 1:20. Also some shots of Patricia congratulating him.

Putting the video together with what Butler has said, I think the Kearse play was really weighing on him. His emotion after the pick, it sounds like, is not really, "holy shit I just won the Super Bowl," but instead I think it was just relief that he recovered from feeling like he let his teammates down when he got the big chance he was dreaming about.. He's a pretty simple guy, not maybe the smartest or most saavy guy in the world, but so unbelievably genuine and endearing. In the podcast, they ask him ridiculous question like whether Brady should have given him the 15k to pay the taxes on the truck. There's no duplicitousness or sarcasm or careful parsing of answers. He thinks about it for a minute and then just says basically, golly, that's a 2015 brand new Silverado and for just $15,000, that's a pretty good deal. It's maybe inevitable that the media some day is going turn on him a little, because that's what they fucking do -- build you up to tear you down. I so want good things to happen for this kid, and I really hope he gets some good people around him to protect him and keep him path to improve his game.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-england-patriots/0ap3000000470338/Around-the-NFL-Podcast-Malcolm-Butler-on-life-post-Super-Bowl
Letterman asked, or somebody told him to ask Belichick how he'd come so far this year, walkon from West Alabama to SB hero, and Bill said the mandatory he worked very hard, but also that he was picking up stuff quickly. NFLN also sent him out on the street incognito to interview people (LA?) about how they liked the super bowl and he did just fine. Sure, he often doesn't use the right conjugations or whatever, but he wouldn't be playing for the Patriots if he wasn't smart. 
 

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Does it piss anyone else off that Garappolo is bouncing around like Brady after the Butler pick? It's like the fat chick cock blocking her fine friend at the club.
 

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Does it piss anyone else off that Garappolo is bouncing around like Brady after the Butler pick? It's like the fat chick cock blocking her fine friend at the club.
There is literally nothing football related that has happened since the Butler INT that has pissed me off. I can't even begin to understand this comment.
 

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Does it piss anyone else off that Garappolo is bouncing around like Brady after the Butler pick? It's like the fat chick cock blocking her fine friend at the club.
No and that has to be one of the worst attempts at an analogy I have ever seen.
 

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I felt a little badly for Jimmy that Brady didn't remotely acknowledge him in that moment.  Not that you can script such things or that it wasn't totally understandable that Tom would gravitate to Josh there. 
 
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I imagine there wasn't a player on the Pats' sidelines who wasn't jumping up and down with excitement, or at least something similar.  Oh look, the quarterbacks happen to be standing near each other, because they look at the same stuff with McDaniels after every drive.  How bizarre, how bizarre.
 

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Sadly the NFL copyright police have killed it. Anyone download?
Mother...The NFL should be hiring this guy, not ripping down his videos. They're the only league that is this adamant about footage. Protect the SHIELD11!.

How do you download YouTube videos? I would have done it. The guy is super active, I bet he'd send it if I asked, then I can provide it.
 

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LuckyBen said:
Does it piss anyone else off that Garappolo is bouncing around like Brady after the Butler pick? It's like the fat chick cock blocking her fine friend at the club.
What in the hell is this?  Looks like we have an early contender for worst post of the year.
 

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Mother...The NFL should be hiring this guy, not ripping down his videos. They're the only league that is this adamant about footage. Protect the SHIELD11!.

How do you download YouTube videos? I would have done it. The guy is super active, I bet he'd send it if I asked, then I can provide it.
http://en.savefrom.net/
 

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Ed Hillel said:
Mother...The NFL should be hiring this guy, not ripping down his videos. They're the only league that is this adamant about footage. Protect the SHIELD11!.

How do you download YouTube videos? I would have done it. The guy is super active, I bet he'd send it if I asked, then I can provide it.
Don't worry, I got it, uploading to dailymotion atm
 
As for downloading - jdownloader works fine
 

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PedroKsBambino said:
Sadly the NFL copyright police have killed it. Anyone download?
 
Ed Hillel said:
Mother...The NFL should be hiring this guy, not ripping down his videos. They're the only league that is this adamant about footage. Protect the SHIELD11!.

How do you download YouTube videos? I would have done it. The guy is super active, I bet he'd send it if I asked, then I can provide it.
 
JohnnyK said:
Don't worry, I got it, uploading to dailymotion atm
 
As for downloading - jdownloader works fine
 
I just did it.
 
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k7GJvdSQV0sMIja81qi
 
Another means of downloading Youtube (or any other streaming video) is to use a browser other than Chrome or IE (such as Firefox or PaleMoon) and install the DownloadHelper plug-in.
 

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Does it piss anyone else off that Garappolo is bouncing around like Brady after the Butler pick? It's like the fat chick cock blocking her fine friend at the club.
 
I'll pile on to crap on what surely even the poster knows by now is the stupidest thing ever.
 
And it's so un-Patriotic and un-Belichickian to assume the backup QB played no role in the SB triumph.
 

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This was on the NFL web site. It's a podcast of a Butler interview, but interspersed is some video I hadn't seen before. Best is the overhead view of the pick, with the camera staying on the dogpile after the pick, and then up through when the help Butler up and walk with him to the sideline. Maybe it's posted somewhere else, but I hadn't seen it. Naturally, 11 is the first offensive player to get on the field and congratulate him. Starts around 1:20. Also some shots of Patricia congratulating him.

Putting the video together with what Butler has said, I think the Kearse play was really weighing on him. His emotion after the pick, it sounds like, is not really, "holy shit I just won the Super Bowl," but instead I think it was just relief that he recovered from feeling like he let his teammates down when he got the big chance he was dreaming about.. He's a pretty simple guy, not maybe the smartest or most saavy guy in the world, but so unbelievably genuine and endearing. In the podcast, they ask him ridiculous question like whether Brady should have given him the 15k to pay the taxes on the truck. There's no duplicitousness or sarcasm or careful parsing of answers. He thinks about it for a minute and then just says basically, golly, that's a 2015 brand new Silverado and for just $15,000, that's a pretty good deal. It's maybe inevitable that the media some day is going turn on him a little, because that's what they fucking do -- build you up to tear you down. I so want good things to happen for this kid, and I really hope he gets some good people around him to protect him and keep him path to improve his game.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-england-patriots/0ap3000000470338/Around-the-NFL-Podcast-Malcolm-Butler-on-life-post-Super-Bowl
I didn't read your post--but my reaction to the video was exactly the same (and just read your post when I came back looking for the link).  "That's a 2015 Silverado.  You're not gonna get no brand new truck for $15,000.  Nowhere."  Awesome, and .sig worthy.
 
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holy shit.  I mean, I liked the 45-minute season recap, but that latest video you guys just posted might be my favorite compilation yet.  Top-shelf professional grade.  Gave me chills.
 

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LuckyBen said:
 
Does it piss anyone else off that Garappolo is bouncing around like Brady after the Butler pick? It's like the fat chick cock blocking her fine friend at the club.
 
 
I thought it was funny he was reacting the same goofy way.
 
 
Do you think the backup QB shouldn't celebrate? Can you expound on that?
 
 
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Oh for the love of god, let him live it down already.  This thread is for basking.
 

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There's plenty of basking.
 
He may have been trying to make a salient point about something inside that tortured analogy.