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Only 39 on the 40 man so I assume they add Phillips(who has been hot), other than that probably some pitchers.
Devers played in the minors the other day so I would assume he is ready or close to ready.
 

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Devers has played in the past three PawSox games (including tonight)... so either Pete just forgot about him or they are going to give him the rest of the AAA season (through Monday) to get into a rhythm.

He will be back.
 

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Swihart was starting at first tonight. Which tells me that Moreland and/or Pearce are not at 100%.

But, he gives cover at first and in the outfield... And that's all you are really looking for from these call-ups. Not a single one of them is likely to make the post-season roster barring injury.

(Argument can be made for Lin as a pinch-runner I suppose... But I'm not feeling it.)
 

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Not sure why they need Travis up unless he's there to spell Beni in left down the stretch.
Since when are September call-ups about need? Generally teams bring up every warm body they have on the 40-man during September. I guess we could wonder why Travis was an immediate call up rather than waiting until Tuesday when the PawSox season is over, but it's not as though they are playing meaningful games where they need him. Travis gives them a presumably healthy option at 1B and occasional fill-in in the OF, the former being something they could really use right now.
 

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Since when are September call-ups about need? Generally teams bring up every warm body they have on the 40-man during September. I guess we could wonder why Travis was an immediate call up rather than waiting until Tuesday when the PawSox season is over, but it's not as though they are playing meaningful games where they need him. Travis gives them a presumably healthy option at 1B and occasional fill-in in the OF, the former being something they could really use right now.
Since always? The Red Sox badly need relievers. I don't believe most teams expand to the full 40 either. I think the Sox are usually around the low 30's.

Not a big deal, but he seems like the most redundant option since they already have a platoon as well as Swihart. Lin and Holt can both play the outfield too.

I think @joe dokes has the better answer though.
 
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Not a big deal, but he seems like the most redundant option since they already have a platoon as well as Swihart. Lin and Holt can both play the outfield too.
Five of the eight players they brought up are pitchers. (Steven Wright was activated as well). And the minor league season still has a few games that someone needs to pitch.

Who else would you have brought up today?
 

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Since always? The Red Sox badly need relievers. I don't believe most teams expand to the full 40 either. I think the Sox are usually around the low 30's.

Not a big deal, but he seems like the most redundant option since they already have a platoon as well as Swihart. Lin and Holt can both play the outfield too.

I think @joe dokes has the better answer though.
They added five pitchers today...Poyner, Scott, and Cuevas recalled plus ERod and Wright off the DL. There's still three more pitchers on the 40-man, plus Sale on the DL, plus Austin Maddox ready to come off the 60-day DL. They've got plenty of pitching help en route. How does recalling Travis affect that?
 

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If Steven Wright can come back and even approximate what he was doing for us earlier that would be huge. I have a soft spot for knuckleballers so would really like to see him stay healthy and be a part of this roster this year and moving forward
 

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I’d expect Phillips to ask to be released if we’re not bringing him up. Surely he’d want to see if another team would take him.
 

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I’d expect Phillips to ask to be released if we’re not bringing him up. Surely he’d want to see if another team would take him.
To what end? I would think a team out of contention for the post-season would prefer to play their own guys, especially if they have young players that could use the experience. And a team in contention, unless they have a temporary hole Phillips would fill, probably aren't looking to add players that would be ineligible for the post-season.

Not saying the Sox shouldn't release him to give him the opportunity, but would his odds of hooking on to another team be any better than if he spent a couple weeks in Ft Myers staying in shape in case the Red Sox have an emergency need (one that could extend to a need on the post-season roster)?
 

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They added five pitchers today...Poyner, Scott, and Cuevas recalled plus ERod and Wright off the DL. There's still three more pitchers on the 40-man, plus Sale on the DL, plus Austin Maddox ready to come off the 60-day DL. They've got plenty of pitching help en route. How does recalling Travis affect that?

What's the word on Maddox? Any hope he could pitch for the Sox in October?
 

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What's the word on Maddox? Any hope he could pitch for the Sox in October?
Most recent thing I could find was this article from three days ago that says he was returned from his rehab assignment but was not transferred off the DL. No indication why, but unless he suffered a setback, the fact that he was rehabbing is a sign he might see action in September. None of the other players on the 60-day DL have even attempted to play in a game or taken any other steps toward returning.
 

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It did not really cost them anything to take a flyer on Phillips. At the time of the signing, the Red Sox had no clue that Ian Kinsler would be available.
 

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Most recent thing I could find was this article from three days ago that says he was returned from his rehab assignment but was not transferred off the DL. No indication why, but unless he suffered a setback, the fact that he was rehabbing is a sign he might see action in September. None of the other players on the 60-day DL have even attempted to play in a game or taken any other steps toward returning.
Thanks, so the door may be open.
 

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Still trying to figure out exactly why they signed BP
They were hoping he’d be 2017 Brandon Phillips
It did not really cost them anything to take a flyer on Phillips. At the time of the signing, the Red Sox had no clue that Ian Kinsler would be available.
Phillips was available, Pedrioa was not. He pretty much cost nothing and if he had anything at all left to give it would have been a great pickup. Sometimes you can catch a guy who might not be the player that he used to be, but still might be able to contribute with either his bat or glove. Classic no risk signing that the Sox thankfully didn’t have to press into action.
 

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The Major League per diam is what normal people call "real money" and it makes a difference to career minor league players' bottom line.

Plus all the other reasons being called up for a cup of coffee is incredibly cool.
Yep, I believe the prorated salary is something like $3500/game on an MLB roster so 26 games is about 90k. Most of these guys are making between 40k and 90k for the whole year if they're in the 40-man so it's doubling or quadrupling their annual salary. Quite a nice reward.
 

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Another perk is anyone who gets 1 day in the bigs gets free lifetime healthcare coverage. Not a small thing.
 

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Another perk is anyone who gets 1 day in the bigs gets free lifetime healthcare coverage. Not a small thing.
The money in professional sports is so big that we forget about the enormous compensation even the least players get for playing the game at the highest level.

Lifetime healthcare is a huge perk, which 35 year veteran school teachers don't get in most districts... Much less for one day of work.

If you can get a handful of month long playing stints in between your minor league career (Dan Butler of the 9 career MLB appearances, we're looking at you) you should be easily capable of having several million plus in your non retirement accounts and never have to work a real job in your life.

It pays to be in the top 50 in the world at any job, even if it's backup catcher...
 

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The money in professional sports is so big that we forget about the enormous compensation even the least players get for playing the game at the highest level.

Lifetime healthcare is a huge perk, which 35 year veteran school teachers don't get in most districts... Much less for one day of work.

If you can get a handful of month long playing stints in between your minor league career (Dan Butler of the 9 career MLB appearances, we're looking at you) you should be easily capable of having several million plus in your non retirement accounts and never have to work a real job in your life.

It pays to be in the top 50 in the world at any job, even if it's backup catcher...
At 43 days of service, every MLB player gets a $34,000 annual pension plan as well. Dan Butler isn't there yet, though. There are lots of people out there living off full time jobs that pay less.
 

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At 43 days of service, every MLB player gets a $34,000 annual pension plan as well. Dan Butler isn't there yet, though. There are lots of people out there living off full time jobs that pay less.
I didn't know the cut off was that low. Basically 2 September call up years and you've got a pension. That's a huge thing, especially added to the health insurance.
 

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I didn't know the cut off was that low. Basically 2 September call up years and you've got a pension. That's a huge thing, especially added to the health insurance.
Didn't coaches sometimes get get added to the 40-man in September to accrue enough time for a player's pension? Does that still happen?
 

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According to Sox Prospects. Coming into 2017, Butler had 45 days of MLB service time.
 

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Pedroia is scheduled to fly to Boston on Wednesday to meet with the coaching and training staff once they're back from Atlanta. They are supposed to evaluate where he is in his rehab and decide what they'll do for the rest of the season. Cora said he was optimistic about Pedroia playing before the end of the year, but now that will require dropping someone from the 40-man roster. Tony Renda, if he's not going to be called up, seems a good candidate for a DFA if the need arises.
 

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Phillips isn't even on the 40 man. So he's not eligible for the postseason right now, right?

what is the point? super infield depth for the stretch?
 

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Players who were in the organization by August 31 can be made postseason eligible as injury replacements even if they weren't on the 40 man yet.
 

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At 43 days of service, every MLB player gets a $34,000 annual pension plan as well. Dan Butler isn't there yet, though. There are lots of people out there living off full time jobs that pay less.
How does this work? Does this pension start at 65 years of age? Are you telling me, Cesar Crespo has a pension and lifetime healthcare? Good for him and good on the players union.
 

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Maybe just a thank you for sticking with the team as an injury back up the past few months
I think this is it. He'll be looking to stick with a team next year, so if he can even get into a few blowouts for a few innings to get Kinsler off his feet, at least it will give him a 2018 MLB stat line.