Second Acts as Head Coaches

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Jul 26, 2007
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Actually, in Pete Carroll's case, a third act.
 
BB is, without question, the best head coach in the NFL.  In the words of Mona Lisa Vito, "It's a fact!"
 
Pete Carroll is at worst a top 3-4 guy (my measurement being that if Carroll got fired tomorrow, every team but 3-4 would fire their head coach and hire him).
 
Neither of them were particularly successful in their first go-rounds as head coaches, and they both had some unusual circumstances to deal with (BB with the Art Modell ownership and moving, Carroll having to come in on the heels of the Super Bowl loss and the Bill Parcells debacle).  I never understood Carroll's firing after one year in NY, as he wasn't coming into a team that was loaded, and they replaced him with the immortal Rich Kotite.    
 
They took different routes to regain their standing-BB as an NFL assistant, Carroll by going to USC and turning that program around (I am willfully ignoring the NCAA violations).  The one point in common is that is was a pretty big gap before either became a head coach again-4 years in BB's case, 10 in Carroll's.   I think an interesting comparison this year is Jack Del Rio-spent a few years as Denver's DC, and now a HC again.  I wonder if Kubiak would have been better off spending a couple more years on someone else's staff before returning to the head coaching ranks.
 
  
So who among the recently fired is likely to take a few years off and come back new and improved?  I'm not talking about guys like John Fox, Jim Caldwell or even Rex Ryan.  I'm thinking more about guys like Dennis Allen, McDaniels,  Rob Chudzinski, Greg Schiano, Jim Schwartz, Pat Shurmur.  Guys that are young enough to go somewhere and do a stint in "coaching rehab" and come back as a better head coach?  What is it that BB and Carroll learned that brought them back to the top of the profession?  Given the success of Carroll and BB, are we likely to see more instances of "retreads" getting second chances?
 

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Angry Pissbum
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I think this is a great topic, but may be a challenging one to get any real grip on.
 
I think the two main factors are someone's potential- do they have the basic building blocks to be a good coach (X and O knowledge, organizational skills, big picture vision, leadership skills, etc) and someone's self introspection and flexibility- are you willing to admit and learn from your mistakes and change your approach to be more successful?
 
The first skill is something I think we all can see, but the second one is real hard to guess at unless we know the person.
 
I'm very curious about Josh McD...he certainly has the knowledge, I've heard ex-players talk about how much the like playing for Josh, he certainly has a vision (even if it is off sometimes- see Tebow, Tim). I think he could be a successful coach, but is he willing to do the dirty personal work and change himself to be successful?