Wow. That's a TON to give up. I like Fant a lot and adding him to Lockett and Metcalf as weapons? Plus 4 picks in the first two rounds? I'd trade for Jimmy G in a heartbeat and suddenly the Seahawks could be much better off.
Russell Wilson traded to Denver
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That's more than I would have imagined Seahawks would get. But QB;s are playing longer nowadays.
Here's the whole trade in one tweet (thread).
View: https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1501274313080680456?s=20&t=bXW9Hdfkf_FBOJuzUrJ0Yw
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Even with Carr being a rung or two below the other three, this has to be the greatest collection of QB talent in one division in a long time. Ever?
Brady and 3 scrubs is still better
Brady, Brees, Ryan, and whoever was in Carolina in 2020 is surely better.
View: https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1501275849873625091?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
LOL, DEN forcing SEA to throw in the 4th/5th swap is high comedy.
LOL, DEN forcing SEA to throw in the 4th/5th swap is high comedy.
Ehh. I'll take Brady over Mahomes, but not by enough to make up for how done Brees' arm was or how much better Carr is than Teddy. Ranking Ryan, Herbert, and Russ is a fun exercise but I think the overall 2022 AFC West package is pretty unprecedented in the modern passing era (ie from Manning on).
Fant is a solid get in this deal for Seattle, as is the #9 pick. Another, likely low first? A couple of 2ds? Denver gives those up gladly to get a QB like Wilson with two years left on a reasonable contract. This seems like a pretty fair deal overall. With the team Denver has, they have to make this deal to get a QB as good as Wilson. I agree that Seattle could go get a guy like Jimmy G and still compete, but they won’t have the same ceiling.
They've really lost their ability to adapt on the fly. Once they have their rundown in place, many of them are lost if something breaks
Boy do I have some mixed emotions. The only thing I'll say right now is they better not waste the #9 on a QB in this draft.
Fix the defense and hope to find a game manager type for the next couple of seasoins?
I really like this for Seattle. I’m not sure Wilson isn’t cooked. Sure he could return to all pro form… but he looked pretty bad down the stretch.
Now let’s have a new MLB CBA this afternoon, and really blow their stacks in Bristol.
I'm not sure I see where SEA is going?
They recouped the picks they traded for Adams I guess? Added a decent TE and some seconds?
Unfortunately they now have a gaping hole at QB and none of the reasonable options for trade/draft make them contenders, and they are loaded with vets with 1-2 years left on their deals.
They recouped the picks they traded for Adams I guess? Added a decent TE and some seconds?
Unfortunately they now have a gaping hole at QB and none of the reasonable options for trade/draft make them contenders, and they are loaded with vets with 1-2 years left on their deals.
Are the Seahawks trolling their own fans?
View: https://twitter.com/Seahawks/status/1501292207722033153
View: https://twitter.com/Seahawks/status/1501292207722033153
One thing I will say.... Russ makes a lot of his own danger. You could put him behind 5 All-Pros and he'd find a way to walk into pressure.
I think this has the chance to turn out as the best least bad option for the Seahawks. Russell all but said he wanted to move on. He has two years left on a big deal and wants a new deal. Seattle had to get something for him and they got a decent haul.
Add in that he is 33 going on 34 midseason and has been sacked more than anyone else for years. I just don't know if I see him aging well.
Add in that he is 33 going on 34 midseason and has been sacked more than anyone else for years. I just don't know if I see him aging well.
This is just my speculation, but I think he felt his voice wasn't being heard in terms of how the team was developing. I also think he and Pete clashed a bit when it came to offensive philosophy. Russ wanted to open things up more and Pete didn't. Each had a good point at times.
Latest rumor I saw was that Lockett could be on the market. I don't think the Pats have enough to get DK.
2009 NFC North had a pretty good group:
Min - Favre (HOF; Pro Bowl; 4th in MVP voting)
GB - Rodgers (Pro Bowl)
Chi - Cutler (a year after making the Pro Bowl)
Det - Stafford (rookie)
Obviously at all stages of their careers, but on the whole, that's three SB-winning QBs, one HOFer (Favre), one obvious lock for the HOF (Rodgers), one who, thanks to his SB win this year, might be a HOFer (Stafford), and one guy who I never loved but who was regarded as being pretty talented, who did make a Pro Bowl.
Favre and Rodgers are both top 10 all-time greats. So that's a pretty talented group. Not all in their primes, obviously, but still.
And why would SEA be looking to trade Metcalf?
Trading Russ doesn’t mean it makes sense to just shop every good player.
Or 2001 AFC East:
NE - Brady
Ind - Peyton
NYJ - Testaverde
Mia - Fiedler
Buf - Van Pelt
Obviously a massive drop-off at the bottom, but that group is headlined by probably the #1 (obviously) and #2 or #3 (Peyton) QBs in history, and Vinny who was a 2x Pro Bowler who put up pretty big career numbers.
NE - Brady
Ind - Peyton
NYJ - Testaverde
Mia - Fiedler
Buf - Van Pelt
Obviously a massive drop-off at the bottom, but that group is headlined by probably the #1 (obviously) and #2 or #3 (Peyton) QBs in history, and Vinny who was a 2x Pro Bowler who put up pretty big career numbers.
Because the team has no QB and no obvious path to the playoffs and he's in the last year of his deal. Paying a WR (especially one like Metcalf who is a bit one dimensional) a ton of money without a QB is a bad idea. They should be shopping him hard for a 1st.
This is really the critical factor in the deal. Dude has taken a ton of hits over the years.
I see him being on the Roethlisberger aging trajectory much more than the Brady/Brees model.
I thought he had another year on his deal, but on second look it turns out he’s not eligible for the 5th year tender because he was not a second rounder.
I have to think Wagner may ask for a trade, but, then again, who knows?
The Broncos are for sale. George Paton is the GM, Elway was kicked up to President of Football Operations. Interesting to see what happens.
Wagner was likely out anyways as his cap hit is huge. Unfortunately the band is being broken up
He wasn't great down the stretch...but he certainly had an injury to his hand / finger that could have been a factor.
He's good enough to franchise I'd think.
On Wilson he really is older than I thought (maybe because the years pass faster and faster)--was shocked to see he's turning 34 this season. I still make the trade--even 2 or 3 years of a great QB is totall transformative for a franchise--but not sure that this will be a huge deal on the field four or five years from now.
Saw the other day Wilson claims to spend $1 million a year on his body. Despite his playing style, he seems like the kind of guy who will age well.
Joe Kapp was essentially a trade and, like Bledsoe, was the highest paid QB.
Oh, wait you said best.
I'd say Seattle made out pretty well considering. AFCW is going to be a tough division for the next few seasons.
As for Lockett, He just signed a new deal last offseason. Seattle would take a $28M hit in a trade and his salary is only $3M this year. With that contract Lockett would fetch a pretty big ransom but that's a lot of money to swallow.
As for Lockett, He just signed a new deal last offseason. Seattle would take a $28M hit in a trade and his salary is only $3M this year. With that contract Lockett would fetch a pretty big ransom but that's a lot of money to swallow.