Rodgers wants to fly like a Jet

[NDame616]

I still don't get why the Jets don't meet with Lamar and just leak it to put pressure on the Packers. Helps our Lamar showing there's actually a team interested and helps out the Jets to ty to get GB to bend.

"With the Aaron Rodgers trade in jeopardy, all the top brass for the Jets have flown out for a meeting with Lamar Jackson to discuss bringing the former MVP to NY"

 

[Pesky Pole]

I still don't get why the Jets don't meet with Lamar and just leak it to put pressure on the Packers. Helps our Lamar showing there's actually a team interested and helps out the Jets to ty to get GB to bend.

"With the Aaron Rodgers trade in jeopardy, all the top brass for the Jets have flown out for a meeting with Lamar Jackson to discuss bringing the former MVP to NY"

I'd love to envision a scenario where the Jets get shut out here and have to go back to Zach Wilson at QB. That's the real leverage here. Good luck Jets, we'll just let him retire and we'll take the salary cap savings post June 1st.

It's too bad Rodgers is a prick. The Niners with him would be a great team but they have no picks until the end of the third round. Of course, Rodgers would have to go back in his hole and see his shadow again.

 

[Ed Hillel]

I still don't get why the Jets don't meet with Lamar and just leak it to put pressure on the Packers. Helps our Lamar showing there's actually a team interested and helps out the Jets to ty to get GB to bend.

"With the Aaron Rodgers trade in jeopardy, all the top brass for the Jets have flown out for a meeting with Lamar Jackson to discuss bringing the former MVP to NY"

I’m not sure they can afford Lamar. Rodgers seems to be willing to structure in a certain way that Lamar might not want?

 

[BigJimEd]

Jets are probably still confident a deal gets done. No real rush at this time.

Meeting with Lamar could go multiple ways.
Not sure GB would feel much pressure. That's assuming no other team would have interest. Maybe some other team convinces Rodgers to take a meeting with them. Aaron, Jets are looking at other options, you should at least hear us out.

 

[Shaky Walton]

Damn, I sure as hell hope they don't meet with Lamar. If that lead to Lamar in NY, Same Old Jets might be a thing of the past.

Rodgers in NY has the potential to sting at times, but ultimately would lead to a shit show of sorts. At least, that's what I would expect, and would be so Jets.

 

[JM3]

I’m not sure they can afford Lamar. Rodgers seems to be willing to structure in a certain way that Lamar might not want?

"Huge signing bonus" is the easiest way to keep the 1st year cap # down. I don't think Lamar would have a large issue with that.

I'm sure they'll square up their compensation for Rodgers soon. 2nd & a 4th that can become a 2nd if certain criteria are met? Who knows.

 

[mcpickl]

I still don't get why the Jets don't meet with Lamar and just leak it to put pressure on the Packers. Helps our Lamar showing there's actually a team interested and helps out the Jets to ty to get GB to bend.

"With the Aaron Rodgers trade in jeopardy, all the top brass for the Jets have flown out for a meeting with Lamar Jackson to discuss bringing the former MVP to NY"

This would be great for the Packers.

Oh, you're willing to give up two first round picks and maybe 200Mish guaranteed for your plan B?

So what's plan A, a guy who already publicly announced he wants to play for you, worth?

 

[streeter88]

Wonder how many negotiations classes are using this as a live case study. I think GB is on the best position; Jets in the worst position. Assuming AR isn’t a complete dolt financially, all he has to do is stay in shape.

 

[luckiestman]

Wonder how many negotiations classes are using this as a live case study. I think GB is on the best position; Jets in the worst position. Assuming AR isn’t a complete dolt financially, all he has to do is stay in shape.

So what is your prediction if GB is in the better position?

 

[streeter88]

So what is your prediction if GB is in the better position?

Be a lot more popcorn consumed before this is done.

 

[rodderick]

The way Rodgers puts pressure on GB to force this trade through is to announce he's coming back to the Packers if he isn't traded. That's how GB's leverage evaporates because they absolutely do not want him on the roster.

 

[mcpickl]

The way Rodgers puts pressure on GB to force this trade through is to announce he's coming back to the Packers if he isn't traded. That's how GB's leverage evaporates because they absolutely do not want him on the roster.

Would it evaporate though?

Because Rodgers already announced he absolutely does not want to be on the Packers roster.

I'd call the King of the Darkness bluff on that one.

 

[DennyDoyle'sBoil]

Would it evaporate though?

Because Rodgers already announced he absolutely does not want to be on the Packers roster.

I'd call the King of the Darkness bluff on that one.

But there is just no chance Rodgers retires. He can sit in as many darkness huts as he wants or pretend everything he wants, he will never pass on $60 million to play 17 football games. He will play and complain that GB was too picky on comp.

Green Bay has to do this deal. They cannot shoulder $110 million in cap hits for two years of a malcontent, and the Jets know it.

 

[mcpickl]

But there is just no chance Rodgers retires. He can sit in as many darkness huts as he wants or pretend everything he wants, he will never pass on $60 million to play 17 football games. He will play and complain that GB was too picky on comp.

Green Bay has to do this deal. They cannot shoulder $110 million in cap hits for two years of a malcontent, and the Jets know it.

But, on the other hand, the Jets have to do this deal and the Packers know it.

What are the Jets other options? Pay Lamar Jackson a contract so onerous that the Ravens won't match and give up two first round picks to do it. And plan B is, Teddy Bridgewater or something?

I just can't see how the Jets have more leverage here. They want him, their fans want him, Rodgers wants them, they desperately need a QB and there aren't many other great options.

Green Bay doesn't have to actually pay his option bonus until the season starts. If Rodgers says I'm gonna play in Green Bay this year. Green Bay can just say great, see you in camp buddy. Then wait for the Jets to call and up their offer.

 

[Cellar-Door]

But, on the other hand, the Jets have to do this deal and the Packers know it.

What are the Jets other options? Pay Lamar Jackson a contract so onerous that the Ravens won't match and give up two first round picks to do it. And plan B is, Teddy Bridgewater or something?

I just can't see how the Jets have more leverage here. They want him, their fans want him, Rodgers wants them, they desperately need a QB and there aren't many other great options.

Green Bay doesn't have to actually pay his option bonus until the season starts. If Rodgers says I'm gonna play in Green Bay this year. Green Bay can just say great, see you in camp buddy. Then wait for the Jets to call and up their offer.

Especially since they are arguably better off with a post June 1st deal.

Let the Jets spend a couple of months trying to convince a fanbase and roster that thought they were SB contenders that... "actually guys, Carson Wentz, draft capital and saving Woody money is better"

 

[DennyDoyle'sBoil]

For so long as GB is convinced the Jets have no plan B they can be aggressive. But as soon the Jets have any credible threat of a plan B, GB has zero options. Usually in these situations, a team that is willing to take a harsh one time blow can at least consider a very expensive cut. Cutting is not an option here.

 

[BigJimEd]

They play Rodgers. Or they trade him whether possibly post June for conditional picks in 2024.

Jets aren't the only one that can find a plan B. Doubt it gets that far and no real hurry from either team at this point.

 

[Super Nomario]

They play Rodgers. Or they trade him whether possibly post June for conditional picks in 2024.

Jets aren't the only one that can find a plan B. Doubt it gets that far and no real hurry from either team at this point.

Who else is interested at this point? It seems like just the Jets. If a second team enters the fray, I agree, it changes the equation considerably. But right now this is two teams who don't have BATNAs. Rodgers returning to Green Bay would be a mess for both GB and NYJ.

 

[BigJimEd]

Who else is interested at this point? It seems like just the Jets. If a second team enters the fray, I agree, it changes the equation considerably. But right now this is two teams who don't have BATNAs. Rodgers returning to Green Bay would be a mess for both GB and NYJ.

No team at the moment. Jets have no plan B at the moment. Neither team has a time crunch at this point.

Any or all of those things could change in the future. That was my point.

 

[Kenny F'ing Powers]

Who else is interested at this point? It seems like just the Jets. If a second team enters the fray, I agree, it changes the equation considerably. But right now this is two teams who don't have BATNAs. Rodgers returning to Green Bay would be a mess for both GB and NYJ.

There will always be a team on the fringe that thinks they're an Aaron Rodgers away from a run. Whether it's an injury, the dark horse team performing over their head, the random top 10 defense out of no where...and I don't think AR has any interest in sitting out a full year. He'll play where he's sent.

 

[Euclis20]

The Jets have some leverage for the moment, but once Lamar signs, it's gone. The Packers could conceivably find another team (seriously he just won back to back MVP awards, no one else wants him?) or just wait out Rodgers, but the Jets are absolutely SOL if they don't end up with Rodgers or Lamar. They've been acting like they're a competent QB away from contention, and absolutely nobody believes that competent QB is Bridgewater/Wentz/Ryan. The Packers have the advantage now, with the Jets only alternative being Lamar.

 

[Super Nomario]

There will always be a team on the fringe that thinks they're an Aaron Rodgers away from a run. Whether it's an injury, the dark horse team performing over their head, the random top 10 defense out of no where...and I don't think AR has any interest in sitting out a full year. He'll play where he's sent.

The Packers (or whichever team has Rodgers under contract) will have to pick up Rodgers' $58.3M option before the season starts, so they can't wait and see if a market materializes during the season like you seem to be suggesting. They don't have any real incentive to rush now, and arguably they could wait until after 6/1 and it would be a more favorable cap situation. I guess the other possibility is that some team that's fixated on a draft quarterback doesn't get one-or doesn't get the one they want. Indianapolis at 4 might get the fourth pick of quarterbacks; do they want it? But you start going through the teams that are left, and between the teams that already addressed QB and the ones picking high and the ones who don't have the cash / cap, there's not a whole lot left.

As for "he'll play where he's sent," Rodgers will ... this year. The issue is the team that receives him might be paying $58M for one season. That's Rodgers' leverage here; it's not that he'll retire now, it's that he'll retire in a year and bone over whoever shells out whatever trade capital and nearly $60M for one season.