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CoffeeNerdness said:
Greg Roman's unimaginative play calling should be a perfect complement to the guy who wants to hit'em in the mouth and run it down their throats in the era of high-flying, pass first offenses.
 
I dunno, the Niners offense featured some of the best designed run plays in the league for the first few years that Roman was there and obviously kept them very competitive against more aggressive offensive teams due, in part, to ball control. There were reports from some of the Niners beat guys that the offense became overloaded this year with 'too many cooks in the kitchen' implementing conflicting philosophies and plays. When given autonomy, it will be very interesting to see how Roman does. I think Roman is probably going to be a very good fit for an OC for Rex. 
 

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But the 49ers have a qb with some unique skills even if he has regressed a bit.
 
Rex should have taken a few years as a DC under a good head coach to learn how to be a better HC. Now he is not going to change and again will have a two teams within a team, and he is only involved with one of those teams.
 

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I think he's an idiot for picking Buffalo over Atlanta.
 
1) The NFC South is hot garbage, and I don't see it being all that much better in 2015.
2) Rex would have inherited one of the best QB/WR combinations in the NFC, and as a result, could spend the majority of his energy rebuilding the defense, which can only get better.
3) The Bills do not have a 1st Round pick in 2015 (due to the Watkins trade). The Falcons have the 8th pick in the 2015 NFL draft.
 
Maybe the Falcons weren't interested.  But if they were, that would have been my advice to Sexy Rexy.
The Bills have more talent, though. They went 9-7 in an average division, while Atlanta went 6-10 playing in a historically awful division. Last year the Bills were 6-10 but Atlanta was even worse at 4-12. The Falcons are really bad.
 

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Lupica on Rex this morning on his radio show: "The guy is a very good head coach. Is he a great one? I don't know."
 

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Filet-O-Fisk said:
Lupica on Rex this morning on his radio show: "The guy is a very good head coach. Is he a great one? I don't know."
 
The first time I see, hear or read Lupica do, say or write something intelligent will be the first. 
 

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The question of whether Rex is a good or great defensive coach will be definitively answered next season. Buffalo's personnel was top 5 last season and while they might need some reinforcements in the secondary, the DL & LB groups are better than at any time during his tenure with the Jets. Two games against that defense should make anyone nervous. 
 
The offense was putrid and lost Orton, making it worse on paper. The WR are a good group but Watkins was not worth the acquisition cost (and probably never will be) and they have no choice but to chase a QB because Ryan and Roman have proven they can't do much with a guy who has Manuel's skill set. 

I bet they draft a RB in the second round and run the wishbone.
 

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soxfan121 said:
The question of whether Rex is a good or great defensive coach will be definitively answered next season. Buffalo's personnel was top 5 last season and while they might need some reinforcements in the secondary, the DL & LB groups are better than at any time during his tenure with the Jets. Two games against that defense should make anyone nervous. 
 
The offense was putrid and lost Orton, making it worse on paper. The WR are a good group but Watkins was not worth the acquisition cost (and probably never will be) and they have no choice but to chase a QB because Ryan and Roman have proven they can't do much with a guy who has Manuel's skill set. 

I bet they draft a RB in the second round and run the wishbone.
Does having  a great defense when you have great personnel prove anything about the coach? I know Dick Vermeil is a great coach because of what he did everywhere he went. I never felt that Rex had the Jets consistently play above the level of their personnel. I don't blame Rex for being a con man, but I can't help but be bothered that everyone buys in to this con. He is like the NFL version of Donald Trump.
 

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Rex knows he can beat the rest of the division as is, and probably feels he can wait out Brady's retirement while he builds the Bills into a winner.
 

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bosockboy said:
Rex knows he can beat the rest of the division as is, and probably feels he can wait out Brady's retirement while he builds the Bills into a winner.
 
Rex knows he suckered the Bills into paying him $20M bucks. That's it. 
 

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Don't understand when they already had Scwartz doing a very good job with the D. Let Scwartz call the plays and hire a HC that can develop a real offense.
I agree with that, unless Schwartz made it clear he won't work under a new HC this seems like a weird move for the Bills.
 

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Does having  a great defense when you have great personnel prove anything about the coach? I know Dick Vermeil is a great coach because of what he did everywhere he went. I never felt that Rex had the Jets consistently play above the level of their personnel. I don't blame Rex for being a con man, but I can't help but be bothered that everyone buys in to this con. He is like the NFL version of Donald Trump.
 
Feelings...nothing more than feeeeeeeeelings. Misty watercolored memories...of the way Rex were.
 
There's LITERALLY another thread on the main page where the Rex haters club has been having a weenie roast and bashing the con man and his resemblance to various disliked charlatans. 
 
And yes, having great results with great personnel proves things. You play to win the game.
 

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dynomite said:
I think he's an idiot for picking Buffalo over Atlanta.
 
1) The NFC South is hot garbage, and I don't see it being all that much better in 2015.
2) Rex would have inherited one of the best QB/WR combinations in the NFC, and as a result, could spend the majority of his energy rebuilding the defense, which can only get better.
3) The Bills do not have a 1st Round pick in 2015 (due to the Watkins trade). The Falcons have the 8th pick in the 2015 NFL draft.
 
Maybe the Falcons weren't interested.  But if they were, that would have been my advice to Sexy Rexy.
FWIW, Francesa was speculating that Rex might have grabbed the Buffalo offer because of his past dealings with Atlanta. He was saying that Rex thought he was going to get hired in Atlanta and they hired Mike Smith instead. The process was moving slowly with the Falcons, and Francesa seems to think that he was afraid of being left without a job if he waited for them.
 

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Rex Ryan coaching a team with a good defense and no quarterback. Where have I heard this before?
 

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Rex Ryan and the Bills is interesting enough, but I think this may be a nightmare scenario for the Jets.  We all know that the Bills passed the Jets this year, but I'm guessing that most NY fans don't really realize that and see it as an aberration.  The Bills are generally viewed as the doormat of a fairly weak AFC East. They finished last the six years prior to this year, and Ryan was 7-3 against the Bills before this season.  The Bills haven't made the playoffs since 1999.*  When people notice that the Bills under Ryan are actually much better than the Jets under Whoever Is Left In The Cupboard it will not go over well. At all.       LOL
 
*Still pissed that Wade Phillips exactly followed the Raymond Berry playbook and decided that Doug Flutie wasn't good enough because he didn't look prototypical and all he did was win and benched him for Rob Johnson at the end of the season and in the playoffs.
 

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soxfan121 said:
 
Feelings...nothing more than feeeeeeeeelings. Misty watercolored memories...of the way Rex were.
 
There's LITERALLY another thread on the main page where the Rex haters club has been having a weenie roast and bashing the con man and his resemblance to various disliked charlatans. 
 
And yes, having great results with great personnel proves things. You play to win the game.
I suppose, I just don't hold george seifert and Barry Switzer in very high esteem
 

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In fact it seems becoming 49ers east is a decent plan. Dominant d, running game and a great wideout.
 
Fred Jackson is 33 and Spiller is a FA.
 

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Next Rex move is to the Dolphins so that his team can have 6 Superbowls per season.
 

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Next Rex move is to the Dolphins so that his team can have 6 Superbowls per season.
Tannenbaum / Rexie redux would be worth the price of admission.

So let me get this straight. The Dolphins hire Tannenbaum; the Bills hire Rex; and the Jets are going to hire Marrone and any of these teams are going to challenge the Pats?

Outrageous.
 

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I think he's an idiot for picking Buffalo over Atlanta.
 
1) The NFC South is hot garbage, and I don't see it being all that much better in 2015.
2) Rex would have inherited one of the best QB/WR combinations in the NFC, and as a result, could spend the majority of his energy rebuilding the defense, which can only get better.
3) The Bills do not have a 1st Round pick in 2015 (due to the Watkins trade). The Falcons have the 8th pick in the 2015 NFL draft.
 
Maybe the Falcons weren't interested.  But if they were, that would have been my advice to Sexy Rexy.
Rex didn't move to Buffalo because he likes the weather. He apparently didn't have as many options as we thought.

I think the Bills' starting QB will be someone who isn't in the organization now, so hard to assess that part of the situation. Expectations are relatively high there after a 9-7 season, so Rex won't have a ton of rope.

Edit: I agree with you on Atlanta. That's easily the best situation among teams with a coaching vacancy.
 

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Patiently waiting for SJH and TonyC to pop in on this thread as they basically speak for me on the topic of Rex. I for one and looking forward to Rex taking a top D down to the bottom 20 in the league over however long he lasts on this crazy contract. Theoretically buying low on a guy costs Buffalo 5m+ per year?
 
I'm pretty Rex'd out these days after that Taibbi article, but I will say this: Rex is choosing a team that already plays to his strengths. Good defense (and they're getting Alonso back next season), so he gets to take all that credit, but they have no QB and his record on that front is bad, so he'll hire an OC scapegoat that he'll shitcan after 2 years if the offense struggles, thereby passing the buck on the blame yet again.
 
It's a good job, because the Bills have real promise, and he's chosen wisely because it's a win-win for the only thing he cares about, Rex Fucking Ryan.
 

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Silverdude2167 said:
But the 49ers have a qb with some unique skills even if he has regressed a bit.
 
Rex should have taken a few years as a DC under a good head coach to learn how to be a better HC. Now he is not going to change and again will have a two teams within a team, and he is only involved with one of those teams.
And turn down roughly 27M in the process?  What am I missing here?
 

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His show has gotten old, I agree, but per that Taibbi article he is a personality..which is more than one can say about most NFL coaches (like Marrone) so I guess that'll be entertaining. That said, it's a dumb reason to hire a coach so I like it as a Pats' fan since the Bills have a really solid club and I'd be much more worried about them with a better coach. I will say based just on play design and calling (only part of the job, I know), I thought Roman was pretty great in SF. This year was a clusterfuck there, hard to blame him. If Rex hands the offense to him, that might be a good combination. I'd still expect, though, that the Bills will model Rex's erratic motivations - way high or way flat -- and undisciplined ways.
 

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His little rope do you think they are allowing, given they just signed him to a five year, $27.5M contract? That sounds like about four years of rope to me.
If the Bills miss the playoffs the next two years, I think ownership will bite the bullet and fire him. Paying coaches not to coach is a standard business practice in the NFL these days.
 

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Help me out, who's the great wideout on the 49ers?
Their best WR this year was Anquan Boldin, 83 REC (19th in NFL), 5 TD (T-46th in NFL), 1062 YDS (18th in NFL).  For comparison, LaFell had 73 REC, 7 TD, 953 YDS, and Gronk went [SIZE=13.63636302948px]82/12/1124[/SIZE].  I like LaFell but wouldn't call him great, and he's not far off from Boldin.  Gronk had more yards and a LOT more TDs.  
 
On the other hand, Boldin was working with Kaep, while you know who was throwing passes for the Pats guys.  Still, "great" seems like a stretch.
 

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And turn down roughly 27M in the process?  What am I missing here?
Rex is 52, and if anything the hiring trend in this profession is younger.

These jobs don't grow on trees. Atlanta obviously slow walking its process. Your default on any open job has to be that you won't getit. It is far from guaranteed that his shelf life would survive a year or two on television. CBS may be paying Cowher $5 MM a year, but it is almost certainly is not offering anything like that to Rex as a newbie.

He ought to be able to save $7 million over the life of this contract. A very modest 5% return on that gets him $350,000 a year without touching the principal.
 

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Dan Murfman said:
So if the Pats win the next 2 do the Bills come to town for opening night?
 
It's usually a in-conference, out of division opponent, so I'd guess the Steelers. There was a Giants Cowboys game a few years back, but NE/PIT is a much bigger draw anyway.
 

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Pittsburgh. This would be no. 4. Chuck Noll would be there in spirit.
 

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That's fucking disgusting.
 
And, what, couldn't spring for a non-holiday themed box almost 2 weeks after new years?  
 
That place must get a lot of business.   :rolleyes:
 
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And the pizza doesn't look so good, either.  *rimshot*
 
I'm waiting for Anchor Bar to put out a Rex Ryan wings special... "Shut down the runs with our new Rex Ryan wings!"
 

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Is that....frosting? On a pizza?
 
I don't know what grosses me out more, the fact that there's frosting on the pizza or the fact that it may be some sort of savory frosting that is specially madeto go on the pizza.
 

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Well, the black could simply be black olives, the red some tomato paste I guess, but the blue...well...
 

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From Fox Sports:
 
And what in the world was used to make the greeting on the pizza? From here it looks like a combo of olives and frosting. Bill Hanstock from SB Nation cracked the case, as he spoke with Dave from La Nova, the restaurant that provided the pizza.
"I spoke with Dave at La Nova Pizzeria in Buffalo, who was able to confirm that the toppings on the pizza were 'all edible.' The blue and red frosting-looking components are ricotta cheese that was dyed, while the letters are indeed spinach. Mystery solved!"
 
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/laces-out/buffalo-bills-hire-rex-ryan-welcome-with-giant-pizza-011315