Rethinking Barstool?

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There is a local pizza place about 2 minutes from my house called Zuppardi's. They make excellent pizza and are family owned and run. I doubt that they had any clue about Barstool or what it stood for before he walked in. The owners are seniors and not into podcasts or talk radio. They just looked at it as being an honor to serve a customer and maybe get some local publicity. I know for a fact that they did not look up Barstool's past positions before agreeing to serve him. I do not take Zuppardi's agreement to serve Barstool as a clear endorsement of Barstool's politics.
So @LoseRemersal you saying that I should stop going to my local pizza place just because they served a pie to Barstool once? I mean the owners did not know what Barstool was beforehand. Why penalize them?
 

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There is a local pizza place about 2 minutes from my house called Zuppardi's. They make excellent pizza and are family owned and run. I doubt that they had any clue about Barstool or what it stood for before he walked in. The owners are seniors and not into podcasts or talk radio. They just looked at it as being an honor to serve a customer and maybe get some local publicity. I know for a fact that they did not look up Barstool's past positions before agreeing to serve him. I do not take Zuppardi's agreement to serve Barstool as a clear endorsement of Barstool's politics.
So @LoseRemersal you saying that I should stop going to my local pizza place just because they served a pie to Barstool once? I mean the owners did not know what Barstool was beforehand. Why penalize them
Zuppardi's doesn't have to do shit and you don't need to stop going there. That's ridiculous. But consumers of the app (which is what this discussion was about), should realize that there's really, really no shortage of pizza coverage out there. Zuppardi's itself has been featured in Lonely Planet, a Thrillist-produced TV show, and the freaking New York Times (where arguably the most famous food writer in the world called it the best clam pie he's ever had). I can't stress this enough: you really don't need to support the misogynist dumpster fire that is Barstool Sports in order to find good pizza.
 
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Lose was stating that every single pizza place that served Barstool should be avoided since by serving them, the place is implicitly endorsing Barstool's politics. I think that is ridiculous and extreme. I guess we agree to disagree.
 

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Lose was stating that every single pizza place that served Barstool should be avoided since by serving them, the place is implicitly endorsing Barstool's politics. I think that is ridiculous and extreme. I guess we agree to disagree.
Re-read what Lose said:

I like great pizza but I'm not going to buy it from a place with a political sign outside that I disagree strongly with. Similarly I won't download someone who I disagree with's app that provides him with revenue or at least numbers supporting him or his product. Just like there are hotels in NYC with a certain name on them I'll never stay in, etc, etc.
 

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The point isn't about the pizza place(s), it's about his app. There's other avenues to finding good pizza without putting money in his pocket. If one feels strongly about him and his stance on a subject, then using his app makes them hypocritical. It's not implying anything about the pizza place. Think bigger than that.
 

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Portnoy is such a fucking asshole. CNBC giving this lunatic airtime is absolute insanity to me. I guess they want to appeal to the stoolies, but CNBC should know better.
 

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Its now just a singular host with Alex running the show. Sofia's boyfriend aka suitman (an HBO executive) had the balls to try to move the podcast someplace else while they were under contract with Barstool. Backstabbing happened between the girls and Barstool just did a deal with Alex.
Yeah, Portnoy has been trolling "Suitman" nonstop.
 

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I don't think he's capable, but RG could turn this whole thing around and be a good sport. Wear one of the clown shirts. Engage in some back and forth. Problem is, I don't think Portnoy is capable of dialing it back just a little bit so RG will play along. And really, I don't think RG has it in him to actually play along. They did ban barstool from all NFL things during Super Bowl week.. And had Portnoy kicked out of the Rams one. We'll see.

$250K is $250K and they'll have to do something. I think RedOctober is right and they'll just match the donation so they can save face.
Nfl reasoning: “he failed a background check”
Barstool Sports Founder Dave Portnoy won’t be allowed to watch a “Monday Night Football” game with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodelldespite being the high bidder for that experience during the NFL’s charity auction to support COVID-19 relief during the April draft, the league said today.

Portnoy, who won the auction with a $250,000 bid, failed a background check that was a precondition to follow through on the invite to Goodell’s home for a game, NFL VP/Communications Brian McCarthy said. The background check noted Portnoy’s multiple encounters with NFL security and the '11 incident in which he posted a nude photo of Tom Brady’s then-2-year-old son on Barstool.

The league also pointed to his arrest in '15 for trespassing at the NFL’s Park Avenue HQ during the Deflategate scandal, and trespassing in '16 that he posted online. Also, the league noted incidents at Super Bowl LIII week in Atlanta '19, including falsifying credentials for the opening night media interviews, and then violating a ban by attending the game itself later that week.

“He was the highest bidder, but the bid was contingent upon a background check,” McCarthy said. “So he consented to the background check, and it came back and he heard from the NFL today that he did not pass the background check. He will not be the winner.”
The NFL will instead donate $250,000 equally to the six charities it was supporting during the draft-a-thon, and will select a “deserving front line worker” from the pandemic for the experience. Portnoy said he was informed his credit card won’t be charged.
 

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I’ve said this before but there are very very few people that I think I would actually do this to if given the opportunity, but I am pretty sure if I saw Goodell in public I would kick him in the nuts. Like I wouldn’t do that to Manning or Jeter or name some other enemy. Even D-Wade or Chris Paul or another total A-hole. But man I would pay money to kick Goodell in the nuts. Fuck that guy forever. I would pour gasoline on him if he was on fire. I hope he dies an awful death. Fuck him forever.
 

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Why? They donated the money so no one is hurt by this.
The NFL still left Portnoy’s money on the table. Take his money and still donate the 250k and it’s double for the charity. Ban Portnoy from bringing his phone and you can ruin it for him that way.
 

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Why? They donated the money so no one is hurt by this.
They had a chance to get an incremental $250,000 to charity, all for the cost of Roger Goodell sucking it up for a few hours. They decided that the $250,000 to charity that Portnoy was willing to pay wasn't worth the bother to Goodell.

It takes a real piece of work to make Dave Portnoy look like a sympathetic case.
 

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They had a chance to get an incremental $250,000 to charity, all for the cost of Roger Goodell sucking it up for a few hours. They decided that the $250,000 to charity that Portnoy was willing to pay wasn't worth the bother to Goodell.

It takes a real piece of work to make Dave Portnoy look like a sympathetic case.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the original plan wasn't the money from the auction winner plus a match from the NFL, right? So the charities are getting the same money either way.

Now if Portnoy were to donate his $250K on his own, on top of the NFL donation, I might buy him being a sympathetic case. At the very least, he'd have the appearance of genuinely caring about the purpose of the auction (to raise money for the charities) rather than his own self-gratifying crusade to harass Goodell. He's a dick, he had an obvious agenda, and they denied him. And frankly, I don't blame them. If the auction prize was dinner at a public place rather than Goodell's private home, I might be more inclined to think Portnoy had been wronged. Everybody has the right to deny someone else entry to their home, no matter how much that someone is willing to pay for the privilege. I have no love for the NFL or Goodell, but Portnoy is neither a victim nor a sympathetic case here.
 

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imo it's much less about Portnoy but rather Goodell. As has been mentioned numerous times it'd be a huge PR win for Roger if he just smiled and had a laugh over the whole thing. Maybe even put on the blue clown t-shirt. Instant win.
Instead he just reaffirms what a pretentious prick he is, completely unable to have a laugh at his expense. The guy when pizza is delivered to the meeting you better let him take the first slice or there's gonna be trouble.

To me he's no better then the lucky sperm club of NFL owners who did nothing but inherit a franchise from their parents yet carry themselves as if they are some sort of integral part of the league's success.
 

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imo it's much less about Portnoy but rather Goodell. As has been mentioned numerous times it'd be a huge PR win for Roger if he just smiled and had a laugh over the whole thing. Maybe even put on the blue clown t-shirt. Instant win.
Portnoy wouldn't have let this happen. He would have pushed and pushed and pushed. He would have been a complete asshole, and would have posted the entire video online.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the original plan wasn't the money from the auction winner plus a match from the NFL, right? So the charities are getting the same money either way.

Now if Portnoy were to donate his $250K on his own, on top of the NFL donation, I might buy him being a sympathetic case. At the very least, he'd have the appearance of genuinely caring about the purpose of the auction (to raise money for the charities) rather than his own self-gratifying crusade to harass Goodell. He's a dick, he had an obvious agenda, and they denied him. And frankly, I don't blame them. If the auction prize was dinner at a public place rather than Goodell's private home, I might be more inclined to think Portnoy had been wronged. Everybody has the right to deny someone else entry to their home, no matter how much that someone is willing to pay for the privilege. I have no love for the NFL or Goodell, but Portnoy is neither a victim nor a sympathetic case here.
The money is fungible. NFL could have donated their side of it at any point, but they are effectively refusing Portnoy's money. He was prepared to pay $250k of his investors' / customers' money to get a few hours with Goodell. I bet he would have negotiated on terms (e.g. no cell phones). Instead, the NFL paid $250k to not take his money (for charity).
 

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Portnoy wouldn't have let this happen. He would have pushed and pushed and pushed. He would have been a complete asshole, and would have posted the entire video online.
Maybe, maybe not. As far as I can see whenever Portnoy is in the company of someone "famous" he's nothing but warm & personable. I have no doubt there would've been jokes at RG's expense, or grilling him on deflategate/ spygate but in reality there's a limit to how much he could do. It's just watching a game at Goodell's house. It's not like he's gonna show up with a case of banana creme pies to launch at his face.
 

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Maybe, maybe not. As far as I can see whenever Portnoy is in the company of someone "famous" he's nothing but warm & personable. I have no doubt there would've been jokes at RG's expense, or grilling him on deflategate/ spygate but in reality there's a limit to how much he could do. It's just watching a game at Goodell's house. It's not like he's gonna show up with a case of banana creme pies to launch at his face.
No. He would have been an unmitigated asshole. And he would have profited off of it. It was win win for him.
 

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It's hard for me to 'root' for Portnoy when he'll be back blasting Fauci tomorrow because he sucks at the stock market. Dude is successful, but he's just an ass.
 

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Not sure your point here.
How is Portnoy now winning this? He was thiiisss close to getting some sympathy from people on the fence (not me, I think he's a piece of shit) and then he drops that tweet. Just as Goodell could have had a laugh about it, Portnoy knew what he was doing and could have come out the bigger man by just shutting the eff up and donating the money to charity, with a middle of the road line about being disappointed by Goodell's decision here. Instead he stoked the fire.
 

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How is Portnoy now winning this? He was thiiisss close to getting some sympathy from people on the fence (not me, I think he's a piece of shit) and then he drops that tweet. Just as Goodell could have had a laugh about it, Portnoy knew what he was doing and could have come out the bigger man by just shutting the eff up and donating the money to charity, with a middle of the road line about being disappointed by Goodell's decision here. Instead he stoked the fire.
Attention. Same thing he’s been doing for the last 15 years. He’s awesome at marketing.
 

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Arian Foster was on PMT this morning and it was excellent. Thoughtful, informative, and honest. I highly recommend listening to it. Boston's own Bill Burr is also on, which was not thoughtful or nuanced, but it was funny.
 

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In the end, Portnoy wins (if he can pull this off in an ongoing pandemic). Probably should just donate all proceeds to charity for good measure.
View: https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1266748467273183234?s=21
If that's "winning," then Goodell made the right choice.

Attention. Same thing he’s been doing for the last 15 years. He’s awesome at marketing.
"Getting attention" is no the same as "marketing." My cat knows how to "get attention." A 4-year old knows how to "get attention."
 

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If that's "winning," then Goodell made the right choice.


"Getting attention" is no the same as "marketing." My cat knows how to "get attention." A 4-year old knows how to "get attention."
Actually, attention is literally marketing for Bartstool. How can you even argue otherwise?
 

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Portnoy is a troll of the highest order but he's good at it and has realized how to monetize it. He's not just lucky. He understands how new media works and how to make money from it. I can't stand they guy but I have moved from thinking he was a totally idiot to a pretty savvy guy. Look at the way he handled the whole CHD thing. He knows what is important to the business and how to run it and doesn't let his ego stand in the way when it matters to the bottom line.
 

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Talk to me when this cat or 4 year old builds a company that gets acquired for $450M.
Fair enough. I have conflated the fact that he is an unrepentent asshole with the fact that he has monetized being an unrepentent asshole.
 

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apparently portnoy and minihane are in a bit of a beef after kirk called out (rightfully) what bullshit it is that some barstool peeps are tweeting out requests to donate to a fund that will assist people with bail after being arrested during the riots.
 

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apparently portnoy and minihane are in a bit of a beef after kirk called out (rightfully) what bullshit it is that some barstool peeps are tweeting out requests to donate to a fund that will assist people with bail after being arrested during the riots.
That's one of the better thing Barstool has done! The ones arrested were not the looters.