Red Sox w/o a Hitting Coach

TomRicardo

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June 4th, Greg Colbrunn went to the hospital with a brain hemorrage.  While the Red Sox offense was pretty bad before this, they have fallen off the cliff since his departure.  Bogaerts has seem to fall off the most.  The main issue is the new lack of walks. The team has OBP below .300 since Colbrunn left.
 
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In the past couple of weeks, has the level of competition increased, specifically the pitching?  I recall running into the Twins and Hughes (who is having a pretty good year), King Felix last night, and the A's, of course (they are the best team in baseball).  Plus, throw in the fact that they are playing a lot of games with minimal days off, have been playing a lot of road games (with a west coast trip), and are now in bigger ballparks (Seattle, Oakland).
 
To conclude anything you would have to separate all that out first.
 

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Is it totally unrealistic to think that former Red Sox hitting coaches like Dwight Evans or Jim Rice might be willing to step in until Colbrunn gets healthy? I know we've got Rodriguez as an assistant, but wouldn't an extra pair of eyes and someone to help players break down game film be helpful? 
 

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HillysLastWalk said:
In the past couple of weeks, has the level of competition increased, specifically the pitching?  I recall running into the Twins and Hughes (who is having a pretty good year), King Felix last night, and the A's, of course (they are the best team in baseball).  Plus, throw in the fact that they are playing a lot of games with minimal days off, have been playing a lot of road games (with a west coast trip), and are now in bigger ballparks (Seattle, Oakland).
 
To conclude anything you would have to separate all that out first.
 
Didn't we just face Brad Mills and Tommy Milone?  Correia pitched well vs. us.  Same with Gibson (who was pitching well).  The Indians starters were all bad. It goes back to the O's when Tillman, Chen and BUD NORRIS all dealt against us.  I'd say we've been playing against the average SP in the AL.  ERAs are down nowadays but it's not like we faced a run of great pitchers.  We haven't.
 
Our O just sucks right now.  Bad.
 
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Hee Sox Choi said:
 
Didn't we just face Brad Mills and Tommy Milone?  Correia pitched well vs. us.  Same with Gibson (who was pitching well).  The Indians starters were all bad. It goes back to the O's when Tillman, Chen and BUD NORRIS all dealt against us.  I'd say we've been playing against the average SP in the AL.  ERAs are down nowadays but it's not like we faced a run of great pitchers.  We haven't.
 
Our O just sucks right now.  Bad.
 
Yes, of course we can both nitpick individual starters who aren't say "very good".  What we would have to do is take the average of the pitchers the Sox saw over the past 3 weeks and compare that to the average of the pitchers the Sox saw from the beginning of the season up to that 3 weeks.  Then we can determine if this one data point was a factor.  Plus, the number of games, ballparks, and current schedule can make some weaker pitchers better (as in they are facing a potentially worn down Sox team).  It's also why I stated that as a question.
 
And yes, the Sox O "sucks".  The point of this thread is to determine the effect of the hitting coach during this stretch where the Sox went from sucks a little less to sucks a little more.