Red Sox sign Austin Adams (MiLB deal)

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It’s a minor league deal so it’s fine. But he’s 33 yeaea old with a 5.7 BB/9 rate over 8 years. I don’t want to see him on the big league roster.
 

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Right, they need to field a team in Worcester, too. Can't just have Penrod, Fitts and Priester throwing all the innings.
 

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Don’t know anything about this guy. Let’s get him in the lab and see if they can unlock something useful in him. Sometimes these deals are structured in a way where you have to release the guy if he’s not called up by a certain date in the season. The appearances bonus provision makes me wonder about that in this instance. Love these kinds of minor league deals. You lock in any upside potential while taking on basically no risk.
 

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Adams' baseball savant is interesting. He throws almost directly sidearm, and throws mostly four seem fastballs when he's not throwing his slider. The look a lot alike in regards to spin and seem tough to pick up.

He gets lots of strikeouts and gives up lots of walks. But rarely gives up barrels or hard hit balls. Especially to right handed batters... His splits are pronounced, with a .265 OPS difference.

If they could cut his walk rate in half while keeping his other attributes, he could be a good pitcher. As it is, he's been lackluster and is predictably available on a minor league deal.
 

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Adams' baseball savant is interesting. He throws almost directly sidearm, and throws mostly four seem fastballs when he's not throwing his slider. The look a lot alike in regards to spin and seem tough to pick up.

He gets lots of strikeouts and gives up lots of walks. But rarely gives up barrels or hard hit balls. Especially to right handed batters... His splits are pronounced, with a .265 OPS difference.

If they could cut his walk rate in half while keeping his other attributes, he could be a good pitcher. As it is, he's been lackluster and is predictably available on a minor league deal.
It’s important to note he will have an option. Having someone with legit big league experience and intriguing stuff with up and down ability is a nice signing.

I’m surprised this doesn’t have an opt out.

Maybe pitchers are starting to be impressed by what they are hearing from the pitching Dev team.
 

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If players are on a MiLB deal is it kosher for teams to get them to a team facilty to begin working with them before spring training or even "Truck Day." Or maybe send players like Austin who needs some tweaking to one of those pitching academies that Breslow and Miller seem to be poaching talent from, a month or so before spring training starts?
 

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If players are on a MiLB deal is it kosher for teams to get them to a team facilty to begin working with them before spring training or even "Truck Day." Or maybe send players like Austin who needs some tweaking to one of those pitching academies that Breslow and Miller seem to be poaching talent from, a month or so before spring training starts?
100% kosher. Team facilities are for everyone in the organization, not just those on the 40-man roster.
 

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Can’t believe no one has put any of his celebratory antics on here yet. I’m not criticizing, to be clear, but dude gets into it.
 

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Adams' baseball savant is interesting. He throws almost directly sidearm, and throws mostly four seem fastballs when he's not throwing his slider. The look a lot alike in regards to spin and seem tough to pick up.

He gets lots of strikeouts and gives up lots of walks. But rarely gives up barrels or hard hit balls. Especially to right handed batters... His splits are pronounced, with a .265 OPS difference.

If they could cut his walk rate in half while keeping his other attributes, he could be a good pitcher. As it is, he's been lackluster and is predictably available on a minor league deal.
The arm slot and repertoire isn't so far away from Weissert, really.
 

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Can’t believe no one has mentioned this yet (from 2021):

24. Padres right-hander Austin Adams set a new MLB record for the Live Ball Era (since 1920) for most hit-batsmen in one season when he plunked Cardinals catcher Yadier Molina in the eighth inning of San Diego's 8-2 loss at Busch Stadium on Friday night.
 

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Christ, his career HBP/9 is over 2.5. His combined BB+HBP/9 is 8.2. In 2021, he was allowing allowing over 10 baserunners per innings…before even including hits. Pretty wild. His 24 HBP in 2021 set the single season record in the live ball era!

6.2% of batters he’s faced have been hit by a pitch. He’s given up more HBP than XBH.
 
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Can’t believe no one has put any of his celebratory antics on here yet. I’m not criticizing, to be clear, but dude gets into it.
That's a lot of celebration for getting away with a very hittable slider to get a strikeout.
 

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Christ, his career HBP/9 is over 2.5. His combined BB+HBP/9 is 8.2. In 2021, he was allowing allowing over 10 baserunners per innings…before even including hits. Pretty wild.

6.2% of batters he’s faced have been hit by a pitch. He’s given up more HBP than XBH.
At least he's keeping the ball in the park.

This seems like the kind of guy the coaching staff and GM think they can fix. If Adams could somehow get his wildness under control, he has the stuff to be a good pitcher. For no money and a minor league roster spot, he's a great pickup.
 

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It’s a minor league deal so it’s fine. But he’s 33 yeaea old with a 5.7 BB/9 rate over 8 years. I don’t want to see him on the big league roster.
Meh, it's solid. You can never have enough bullpen depth and it feels almost impossible to predict who will turn into a useful RP from year-to-year.

The Breslow group has a mixed record uncovering some bullpen pieces. Gems in the departed Booser, Slaten, and Weissert. Some terrible moves in there as well (Joely, Sims, etc.).

On an MiLB deal there’s basically no risk.
 

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this is legitimately stunning. Unprecedented? @Brand Name
Of players with 1+ HBP in a career, min. 10.0+ career IP: 26 such careers exist where HBP exceeds XBH allowed in the Modern Era, 1901 to present, including Adams, of players with consistent data. Stathead is not reliable here so I had to double-code that. Very fun.

The player with the biggest difference of HBP to XBH is Bill Powell, who plunked 6 and gave up one XBH across four seasons and 3 teams from 1909-1913. Adams is tied with Carl Ray and Don Kainer for the second largest difference, at 5. Using HBP:XBH as a ratio, 11 of the 26 had at least one HBP but no XBH allowed, led by the aforementioned Kainer at 3.

If we're looking at something like most IP amongst the 26 with more HBP:XBH? Elmer Koestner is the only one with more career than Adams (AA is at 155.2 entering 2025), at 169.2 IP from 1910-1914. Third place isn't especially close though, at 89.1 IP from Ross Reynolds.

Looking at other actives, yep, there's two, but both made their debut last year: Ryan Zeferjahn of the Angels (2 HBP, 1 XBH) and Luis Peralta of the Rockies (also 2 HBP, 1 XBH). Latter is Freddy's brother. Both have Sox connections: Zeferjahn was part of the Luis Garcia trade while Peralta was traded for Jalen Beeks.
 

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I won't lie, I never heard of this guy before this thread. Is he a player other teams hate because of his celebrations after a K or huge out? I keep thinking we need characters who can cowboy up on the Red Sox. Maybe I am misremembering but didn't all 4 of the WS winning teams have a unique vibe and bond? Or is that just because they won it all I am romanticizing the memory?

IE, I will know the season isn't going nowhere if Cora isn't posting a picture from the first win of the season on his office wall.
 

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I won't lie, I never heard of this guy before this thread. Is he a player other teams hate because of his celebrations after a K or huge out? I keep thinking we need characters who can cowboy up on the Red Sox. Maybe I am misremembering but didn't all 4 of the WS winning teams have a unique vibe and bond? Or is that just because they won it all I am romanticizing the memory?

IE, I will know the season isn't going nowhere if Cora isn't posting a picture from the first win of the season on his office wall.
2004 and 2013 were quite the cast of characters. The Idiots and The Beards. 2004 needs no introduction.

2013 played way over their heads all season and every move Cherington made was spectacularly successful. Like, the 90% projection for every acquisition. A lot of us thought he was collecting major league free agents just so he could trade them at the trade deadline, and everything went wrong and he happened to win the world series... He really thought his job was building the farm system.

2007 was pretty professional, but Pedroia and Big Papi were the only remaining Idiots.

The closer had a serious screw loose, though. I became a big time fan of Papelbon after his drunken jig on the mound after we won the series.

2018, aside from being far and away the best team that year, was all professional. Their personality came from the fact their best player was also a great bowler.

That team was just so good and so boring while crushing everybody.
 

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2004 and 2013 were quite the cast of characters. The Idiots and The Beards. 2004 needs no introduction.

2013 played way over their heads all season and every move Cherington made was spectacularly successful. Like, the 90% projection for every acquisition. A lot of us thought he was collecting major league free agents just so he could trade them at the trade deadline, and everything went wrong and he happened to win the world series... He really thought his job was building the farm system.

2007 was pretty professional, but Pedroia and Big Papi were the only remaining Idiots.

The closer had a serious screw loose, though. I became a big time fan of Papelbon after his drunken jig on the mound after we won the series.

2018, aside from being far and away the best team that year, was all professional. Their personality came from the fact their best player was also a great bowler.

That team was just so good and so boring while crushing everybody.
Pedroia wasn’t one of The Idiots. You’re mixing him up with Youk? Maybe? Who WAS part of the ‘04 team barely….
Manny also though.