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Red Sox can add to this later. One source said the belief is that they’re still determining second wave (prospects vs depth battle, probably.)
Red Sox can add to this later. One source said the belief is that they’re still determining second wave (prospects vs depth battle, probably.)
They signed him to a mL deal over the winter and he played in Spring Training (27 PA, .881 OPS). It feels like 20 years ago to me, too.I must have missed something. Jonathan Lucroy?
Who was our 5th OF last year? Gorkys Hernandez? This seems like typical roster construction, no?so our 5th outfielder now is a nobody minor leaguer (JD should be DHing in almost every game)? ouch.
We're still a month away from the projected start of the season. I'm guessing there will be a move or three yet to come and JD can certainly still play the field if needed.so our 5th outfielder now is a nobody minor leaguer (JD should be DHing in almost every game)? ouch.
I don't understand how Downs & Casas aren't on the initial cut
They can still add additional players since they are below the 60-man limit.so our 5th outfielder now is a nobody minor leaguer (JD should be DHing in almost every game)? ouch.
I don't understand how Downs & Casas aren't on the initial cut
Seems like a good time to be in rebuild mode. I'd be be very frustrated if a long-awaited window of contention for my team was opening now, or about to close.A four man outfield rotation of Benny, Bradley, Verdugo, and Pillar isn’t too bad. Obviously lisping Betts is kinda a big deal but this isn’t a bad group.
But man it’s so clear that the Sox are in major rebuild mode.
I don't agree with this at all, they still have one of the better lineups in the league. Obviously the pitching needs work, but I'd be shocked if this mini rebuild lasts more than one season. They're going as much money as anyone that they can spend starting in 2021.But man it’s so clear that the Sox are in major rebuild mode.
Yeah, there's no way you can look at a lineup that has Bogaerts, Martinez, Devers, Benintendi, Vazquez, and Bradley and call it a "major" rebuild. A major re-build, IMO, would involve shedding a couple more of those guys for prospects and truly punting 2020 and 2021. They're not doing that. If anything, it's a retooling motivated primarily by resetting the luxury tax. Just because the Yankees and Astros are built for bear, that doesn't mean the Sox don't have a good team.I don't agree with this at all, they still have one of the better lineups in the league. Obviously the pitching needs work, but I'd be shocked if this mini rebuild lasts more than one season. They're going as much money as anyone that they can spend starting in 2021.
I've seen August 31.Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the trade deadline is for this season?
August 31st, so roughly about halfway through the seasonJust out of curiosity, does anyone know what the trade deadline is for this season?
This is going to be so strange. With half the season to go and expanded playoffs nearly everyone is going to have a shot at the playoffs. That said how many teams are going to be willing to part with good players and or prospects for a title that isn't going to mean a whole lot in a season that could abruptly yet end without a champion.I've seen August 31.
Yeah I see a lot of salary dumps for marginal upgrades/spare parts and not much else. Personally I agree this champion won't be the same, but hey, flags fly forever, yada, yada.This is going to be so strange. With half the season to go and expanded playoffs nearly everyone is going to have a shot at the playoffs. That said how many teams are going to be willing to part with good players and or prospects for a title that isn't going to mean a whole lot in a season that could abruptly yet end without a champion.
The MLBPA said they’re still open to discussing this, but clearly they’re running out of time.(1) I don't think they are expanding the postseason -- it's still ten teams.
Have you seen their pitching staff?Yeah, there's no way you can look at a lineup that has Bogaerts, Martinez, Devers, Benintendi, Vazquez, and Bradley and call it a "major" rebuild. A major re-build, IMO, would involve shedding a couple more of those guys for prospects and truly punting 2020 and 2021. They're not doing that. If anything, it's a retooling motivated primarily by resetting the luxury tax. Just because the Yankees and Astros are built for bear, that doesn't mean the Sox don't have a good team.
I agree. Bett-th doesn't have the same ring to it.A four man outfield rotation of Benny, Bradley, Verdugo, and Pillar isn’t too bad. Obviously lisping Betts is kinda a big deal but this isn’t a bad group.
LOL what? I didn't even check that. I typed that out on my phone and didn't notice that's what it auto-corrected to. Holy crow that's embarrassing.I agree. Bett-th doesn't have the same ring to it.
But seriously folks, there are bound to be more AAAA guys on this roster than legit prospects who are a year or more away. Service time still counts.
Tip your bartenderth.
Awful indeed:LOL what? I didn't even check that. I typed that out on my phone and didn't notice that's what it auto-corrected to. Holy crow that's embarrassing.
I'll leave it up there because it's funny, but my god that's awful.
Now every time I see Mookie's name I'm going to hear it in Daffy Duck's voice.LOL what? I didn't even check that. I typed that out on my phone and didn't notice that's what it auto-corrected to. Holy crow that's embarrassing.
I'll leave it up there because it's funny, but my god that's awful.
I would say yes. I expect Duran, too, and probably even Groome, who needs innings desperately.Downs has to end up in the pool right? Even though it's highly unlikely he'd actually play you'd think they at least want him around and working out with the team all year for development assuming there's no minor leagues at all.
Losing (I assume you meant to type) doesn’t even have the same number of letters as lisping. Weird for spell-check to do that. We’re gonna have to see the source code on that, fella. Or, to keep in the Daffy Duck vein, sourth code.LOL what? I didn't even check that. I typed that out on my phone and didn't notice that's what it auto-corrected to. Holy crow that's embarrassing.
I'll leave it up there because it's funny, but my god that's awful.
Haha. Sometimes when I type on my phone I just butcher things and if I don't take a moment to double check things, weird words can come out. This must be one of those cases. Yes, I meant "losing", as you astutely deduced.Losing (I assume you meant to type) doesn’t even have the same number of letters as lisping. Weird for spell-check to do that. We’re gonna have to see the source code on that, fella. Or, to keep in the Daffy Duck vein, sourth code.
Of course. If an "i", right next to "o" slipped in there as one hurriedly typed, liosing could easily be changed into lisping.Haha. Sometimes when I type on my phone I just butcher things and if I don't take a moment to double check things, weird words can come out. This must be one of those cases. Yes, I meant "losing", as you astutely deduced.
Hey, man, I feel your pain. As the official "Russian spy" around here I've had people spit fury at me for iPhone and Android autocorrect errors. (And given the size of my hands relative to my iPhone SE those errors are legion.)Haha. Sometimes when I type on my phone I just butcher things and if I don't take a moment to double check things, weird words can come out. This must be one of those cases. Yes, I meant "losing", as you astutely deduced.
The second one for me. Investing my emotions into caring about who wins or loses a game seems so silly right now.Ok Sox fans....there's 30 posts (mine makes 31) in this thread. Baseball is ostensibly coming back, and we're, you know, huge baseball fans. But there's been almost no conversation about this "season" and the 2020 Boston Red Sox. I'd have thought that the announcement that there would be a season - however short it is - would prompt some excitement among fans here and that we'd be talking about all kinds of baseball-related things.
But it's been eerily quiet. Why is that? And I'm as guilty as anyone.
Are we just down on the 2020 Red Sox?
Are we so beaten down by covid and everything else going on in the world that it's just hard to get excited?
Are we down on a short season that feels artificial?
Are we still super wary about things such that we aren't even confident there will be a season at all, and so why bother talking about it?
What's going on here?
For me, it's the last one more than anything. I'm just not confident at all that there's going to be a season, so it's hard for me to get excited at all about it. But what about the rest of you?
All of the above, with the caveat that in some alternate universe where this does happen and make it all the way to the end, even though the Sox don't have the best team on paper, it's an absolute crap shot with the format they have set up. But it will not feel anything like playoff baseball to me. It's going to have a decidely WBC type feel to it.Are we just down on the 2020 Red Sox?
Are we so beaten down by covid and everything else going on in the world that it's just hard to get excited?
Are we down on a short season that feels artificial?
Are we still super wary about things such that we aren't even confident there will be a season at all, and so why bother talking about it?
Isn't the current plan for the postseason the same as every other recent year? They didn't end up agreeing on an additional round of playoffs, so it will be 5 teams from each league again, including the bullshit wild card coin flip game.it's an absolute crap shot with the format they have set up.
Yes and the playoffs are always kind of a crap shoot, but at least we had a better sample size to determine who got to toss the dice. Look at various records after 60 games last year and how many teams flourished and how many floundered during the last 100 games. If I'm not mistaken, the Nats had the second worst record in baseball at that point.Isn't the current plan for the postseason the same as every other recent year? They didn't end up agreeing on an additional round of playoffs, so it will be 5 teams from each league again, including the bullshit wild card coin flip game.
Eno Sarris wrote a good article in June before the number of games were decided that 60 games actually is more definitive than one might think:Yes and the playoffs are always kind of a crap shoot, but at least we had a better sample size to determine who got to toss the dice. Look at various records after 60 games last year and how many teams flourished and how many floundered during the last 100 games. If I'm not mistaken, the Nats had the second worst record in baseball at that point.
I'm on mobile so will look later, but I've read several that fly in the face of that. Matter of perspective I guess. I'll check it out and see where he comes up with that.Eno Sarris wrote a good article in June before the number of games were decided that 60 games actually is more definitive than one might think:
"In any case, by Game 60, you’re likely to know as much about that team’s rest-of-season win percentage as you’ll know."
https://theathletic.com/1864747/2020/06/12/sarris-how-much-more-legitimate-is-an-80-game-season-than-a-50-game-one/
Yeah, nothing in 2020, sports or otherwise, is normal, except people being idiots, which seems to be constant and close to universal. I only posted initially because your post sounded like it was talking about the extra round of postseason games.I'm on mobile so will look later, but I've read several that fly in the face of that. Matter of perspective I guess. I'll check it out and see where he comes up with that.
Edit: The only thing I'll really dispute there is that it's not taking in all the factors here. Players dropping out for stretches with COVID; pacing for a sprint instead of a marathon; rosters twice the size; etc. As Red(s) Hawks Fan notes, you're going to manage differently. This will be far beyond normal variance on injury luck (good or bad). So while the author came to the conclusion that 60 is where you start to see some legitimacy to it, it's still not there yet. And I strongly disagree that it's a "real" season, but to each their own on that.
Yep, this is where I'm at. Even though we have dates, it's still hard for me to get too excited about things until we have a better sense of if this is going to work out.Also there's not much to talk about yet, there should be more in a few days once camp actually (hopefully) starts.
It looks a lot better IMO if Collin McHugh is actually healthy.Ask your son what he thinks the rotation will be. Now THAT will be bad...