Red Sox in season discussion
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Is Myers a better Suzuki fallback option than Soler? Depends what he’s packaged with, but there are (still) several Padres that make sense. Bloom was in on Profar and Ha-Seong Kim last winter — both of whom also would be salary dumps now and would require even better players to offset them — and then there are the catchers.
We discussed Campusano a bunch, but I’d be very happy with Austin Nola if they wanna package him with Myers. If Bloom was in on Stallings, maybe something like that works too.
The Padres are in on Nelson Cruz, who’s reportedly deciding between there and the Dodgers. If he goes to LA, I could definitely see them interested in JDM.
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Ha...I noticed that as well, I hope the trend continues because he was really good in a couple of those seasons.
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Umm I bet you my house plus a million dollars neither of them I'd playing in Pawticket this year. Deal?
Another way of looking at this is that he was hurt. His left knee (patellar tendon) needed surgery in summer 2017. Then he was traded, and it hadn’t properly healed when he re-injured it in spring training 2018. He had the other knee’s patellar tendon surgically repaired in September 2020 and didn’t take the mound again until August of last year before he was shelved from inflammation in the same right knee.
The fact the Sox gave him $3M makes me think they’re convinced he and both his knees are finally healthy.
I agree. The first part of my post was an incomplete thought that I shifted gears from, I just forgot to delete it before continuing. I'll go back and clean that up.
It's interesting: they keep saying they want to add a RH bat, but I don't really understand why.
As the team stands we have
Lefties:
Devers
Verdugo
Bradley
Duran
Righties:
JDM
Kiké
Bogaerts
Dalbec
Vazquez
Arroyo
Refsnyder
Plawecki
Switch:
Arauz
To me, that looks plenty RH, maybe even too RH, unless they are expecting to send somebody out in trade.
As the team stands we have
Lefties:
Devers
Verdugo
Bradley
Duran
Righties:
JDM
Kiké
Bogaerts
Dalbec
Vazquez
Arroyo
Refsnyder
Plawecki
Switch:
Arauz
To me, that looks plenty RH, maybe even too RH, unless they are expecting to send somebody out in trade.
Two of the current starting OF (Verdugo and Bradley) can’t hit lefties (and I don’t think Duran can make the team with those two guys in the roster). They need a RH bat who can play the OF. I don’t think it’s that complicated.
FWIW, Verdugo struggled against lefties in 200 PA in 2021, but he hit them quite well in 2020 (.791 OPS in 82 PA) and 2019 (.843 OPS in 109 PA).
Who knows what's going on with Bradley offensively, but he doesn't have a huge career platoon split. The problem last year was that he couldn't hit at all.
I can see how having two LHH and two RHH outfielders would be useful, but basically everyone else is RHH except Devers. A LHH DH (Schwarber?) or 1B (Hosmer and then Casas?) might provide some balance.
Astros trying to bring back Correa
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SOURCE: Astros intensify talks to bring Carlos Correa back to Houston.
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SOURCE: Astros intensify talks to bring Carlos Correa back to Houston.
Strahm gets 3mil while 2 very solid RP get signed for 2.5:
Diamondbacks have agreed to a one-year, $2.5 million contract with free agent right-hander Ian Kennedy.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/28864/ian-kennedy
Brewers have reached an agreement to re-sign Brad Boxberger to a one-year, $2.5 million contract.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/31495/brad-boxberger
Diamondbacks have agreed to a one-year, $2.5 million contract with free agent right-hander Ian Kennedy.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/28864/ian-kennedy
Brewers have reached an agreement to re-sign Brad Boxberger to a one-year, $2.5 million contract.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/31495/brad-boxberger
This is something I don’t get…. It’s not a huge issue, but it seems to be a part of the Bloom modus operandi: overpay for low ceiling pitching. Several examples of it since he started.
I know we can’t ever know the full situation but yeah….. would rather have either of those two guys.
Even if you fear that Strahm is a disaster in waiting, I think we can probably all agree on a few things:
The Sox were intimately familiar with the list of all available relievers when they decided to sign Strahm.
The Sox were just as aware of how much those other relievers wanted as they were of Strahm’s demands.
The Sox are aware of how much money they can spend this off-season and remain under the tax.
The Strahm signing likely doesn’t prevent the Sox from spending to address other needs.
I think it’s reasonable to look at the Strahm signing and scratch your head. I find it kind of curious myself. But the team has done OK with these kinds of gambles—some hits and some misses—and I think we should all accept by now that the best teams in baseball aren’t using the same stats we are to evaluate players, and aren’t looking at past performance the same way either. One unknown is what, if any, competition the Sox faced in getting Strahm. Again, they are not the only team looking these days beyond the analytics and stat lines that are familiar to us. Regardless of all of that, though, I think the stakes here are pretty small, and even if the whole experiment flames out, it shouldn’t have that much to do with the Sox’s 2022 success.
The Sox were intimately familiar with the list of all available relievers when they decided to sign Strahm.
The Sox were just as aware of how much those other relievers wanted as they were of Strahm’s demands.
The Sox are aware of how much money they can spend this off-season and remain under the tax.
The Strahm signing likely doesn’t prevent the Sox from spending to address other needs.
I think it’s reasonable to look at the Strahm signing and scratch your head. I find it kind of curious myself. But the team has done OK with these kinds of gambles—some hits and some misses—and I think we should all accept by now that the best teams in baseball aren’t using the same stats we are to evaluate players, and aren’t looking at past performance the same way either. One unknown is what, if any, competition the Sox faced in getting Strahm. Again, they are not the only team looking these days beyond the analytics and stat lines that are familiar to us. Regardless of all of that, though, I think the stakes here are pretty small, and even if the whole experiment flames out, it shouldn’t have that much to do with the Sox’s 2022 success.
Also there is the much simpler explanation that some of those initial deal reports are wrong, for instance Ian Kennedy actually got 1/4.75 plus another 2.3 in incentives for a possible 1/7 deal.
View: https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1503232381146308608
View: https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1503232381146308608
I wonder if there's a three-way deal to be had with the Padres and the A's. You wanna get real nuts? This deal works on the trade simulator:
We take on Elvis Andrus and Wil Myers and get Sean Murphy from Oakland, giving us our long-term catcher.
Oakland gets a huge prospect package: Luis Campusano from the Padres, plus Jarren Duran, Brayan Bello, Blaze Jordan, and Brainer Bonaci (and, yes, it would take that much to get Murphy). They also get their choice of Vazquez or Plawecki from us.
San Diego gets two bullpen arms: Lou Trivino from the A's and Josh Taylor from us, plus Ronaldo Hernandez to replace Campusano in the pipeline.
How about a slightly less nuts version which is almost an exact match on the simulator?
We take on Andrus and Myers, but this time we get Campusano and Frankie Montas.
Oakland still gets our prospects: Duran, Bello, Jordan, and Bonaci.
San Diego still gets Hernandez, Taylor, and Trivino.
I might like that one even better, as much as I adore Murphy.
We take on Elvis Andrus and Wil Myers and get Sean Murphy from Oakland, giving us our long-term catcher.
Oakland gets a huge prospect package: Luis Campusano from the Padres, plus Jarren Duran, Brayan Bello, Blaze Jordan, and Brainer Bonaci (and, yes, it would take that much to get Murphy). They also get their choice of Vazquez or Plawecki from us.
San Diego gets two bullpen arms: Lou Trivino from the A's and Josh Taylor from us, plus Ronaldo Hernandez to replace Campusano in the pipeline.
How about a slightly less nuts version which is almost an exact match on the simulator?
We take on Andrus and Myers, but this time we get Campusano and Frankie Montas.
Oakland still gets our prospects: Duran, Bello, Jordan, and Bonaci.
San Diego still gets Hernandez, Taylor, and Trivino.
I might like that one even better, as much as I adore Murphy.
What is Chaim talking to the media.... should be drinking coffee and talking on the phone - he looks too relaxed... looks like he slept last night too. Deals to make Chaim!!!
Seems like a lot of prospect capital to give up and salary to add for players who aren’t necessarily long term solutions at positions of need. I like Montas but if you acquire a starter, I think you have to dump one and they don’t really have any good candidates to move at this point. There’s also only so many spots on the 26/40 man rosters.
Myers is already not a good fielder, I don't know why we'd want him in right at fenway.
He's not really committing to anything with these words, but still good hear.
View: https://twitter.com/alexspeier/status/1503370364600172546?s=20&t=wAKxZzG3hQ5-3LikfzMOlg
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Argh.... don't want to see him with the Jays!
Argh.... don't want to see him with the Jays!
Would you rather Schwarber or Freeman on the Jays? Both seem to be mentioned. That's going to be a tough team, regardless.
Any mention of Freeman to the REd Sox is a desperate ploy to try to get other teams to bid a bit higher. They aren't blocking Casas and I doubt Freeman/Casas would rotate 1B/DH.
I would, too, but I think the other has a better than even shot of ending up north of the border.
Seiya Suzuki on Instagram:
"There have been several reports that I've made my decision but none of that is true. My facial expression is how I feel right now."
"There have been several reports that I've made my decision but none of that is true. My facial expression is how I feel right now."
Eye popping Pythag of 99 wins last year. While they lost Ray and Semien, they have Gausman, Berrios, Kikuchi and a full yeah of Manoah in the rotation, Springer seems healthy, they won’t be bouncing around minor league stadiums, and seem intent on adding another bat. AL East is going to be a wild ride again.
Looks like I picked the wrong year to stop sniffing glue.
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Doesn’t make sense to me and I don’t believe it, but it’s interesting to wonder what Casas might fetch in a trade.
Doesn’t make sense to me and I don’t believe it, but it’s interesting to wonder what Casas might fetch in a trade.
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Great player, but it's hard to imagine us outbidding the rest of those teams and it's very questionable that we'd want to, plus it complicates the Casas future.
Great player, but it's hard to imagine us outbidding the rest of those teams and it's very questionable that we'd want to, plus it complicates the Casas future.
Freeman is great. But 1b seems like the kind of position where the Sox have incredibly exciting young (and very cheap) talent on the way. The cost savings from having Casas at 1b from 2023-2028 could really help find talent elsewhere. Obviously, having FF at 1b in 2022 would be a major upgrade but still. I'm not sure I love this idea.
Oakland may be in the market for a young cost controlled first baseman.
This is totally unimportant, but I saw what sounded like Alex Cora on NESN this morning, and with a beard he looks like a different person. I wonder if he will keep it.
Add me to the list of non-believers in Freeman as a Red Sock. Not happening.
Add me to the list of non-believers in Freeman as a Red Sock. Not happening.