Red Sox do not sign Yuli Gurriel
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So with Turner and Gurriel on board, Dalbec would seem to be headed out of town (but maybe just to Worcester).
The bad news is he is 38 and sucked last year (OPS at .647), but the good news is he seems to alternate having great years every other year and he won a batting title ans gold glove in 2021 at 37.
I would imagine that Dalbec or Casas is on the move?
I would imagine that Dalbec or Casas is on the move?
They found a guy even older than Turner, Jansen, and Martin to sign.
He was pretty bad last year, I hope we didn't give him much guaranteed money. He was as bad as Dalbec last year, and will be 39 this year.
He was pretty bad last year, I hope we didn't give him much guaranteed money. He was as bad as Dalbec last year, and will be 39 this year.
I know that we shouldn't think these guys are heroes, but, boy, I wish he'd done a bit better with explaining and apologizing for the slant eyed gesture.
Don't need to love the guys who wear the laundry, but I doubt I'll be able to root as hard for him as some of the others. For personal reasons, I appreciate that this is an issue that is more important to me than it may be to others.
Don't need to love the guys who wear the laundry, but I doubt I'll be able to root as hard for him as some of the others. For personal reasons, I appreciate that this is an issue that is more important to me than it may be to others.
View: https://twitter.com/CBSBrenton/status/1609347608241135619
To Abbey's point, for non-hockey fans, this tweet by this particular tweeter wasn't true (i.e., that Pastrnak signed a contract with the Bruins).
To Abbey's point, for non-hockey fans, this tweet by this particular tweeter wasn't true (i.e., that Pastrnak signed a contract with the Bruins).
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I remember sometime over this off-season Alex Cora following Yuli Gurriel on Twitter. That kind of made me think the Red Sox had interest. He does bat right. So I guess he backs up Casa?
Reopening this thread but keeping the title for now, Carlos Baerga is now reporting it and he broke the Devers extension:
View: https://twitter.com/BOSSportsGordo/status/1611229136827174912
View: https://twitter.com/BOSSportsGordo/status/1611229136827174912
Not sure what we're seeing here, his wOBA and xWOBA are both worse than Dalbec's. He's also worse against LHP relative to Dalbec, so he's not even a good platoon option for Casas. I don't see much upside here, whereas there's still some upside to Dalbec.
This seems like an impossibly bad, tone deaf move. They just signed the biggest name coming out of Asia. Following that move with the signing of a 39 year old, redundant, washed up, negative WAR racist that has no issue with racially abusing Asians on the biggest possible stage... What the fuck? I don’t believe in god, but I’m considering praying that this isn’t real.
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if there was we would have heard something by now. Like W/ correa. Or Like with Napoli
also. Kiké saying “”who said?” In the comments made me chuckle
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He is really hard to strike out, he had a very good season in 2021, and he has of course been a part of a lot of winning teams. HOU made at least the ALCS all six of his full seasons there, I believe he started all 85 games they played.
The thing I’d be nervous about if I were you guys if this happens is the next move being Casas to MIA in a deal for a pitcher and a SS.
The thing I’d be nervous about if I were you guys if this happens is the next move being Casas to MIA in a deal for a pitcher and a SS.
That's what I'm nervous about if this is indeed happening. Are his services in demand or something? Seems like someone who could slip through into a minor league deal.
I don't discard the possibility of Gurriel having one more productive season at the plate left in him, but I just want Casas to play. If he struggles against lefties, he struggles against lefties until he either adjusts or shows he can't hit them, and then the Sox should proceed accordingly.
Gurriel is 38, I don’t see how his acquisition would suddenly make Casas expendable at all; he’s not a long term solution. Maybe he’s finished; but he’s a career 800+ OPS against lefties. He could help; he’s a far better fit as backup 1b than Eric Hosmer was.
Well, yeah, if he plays as he did last year, he’s not very useful. I imagine the hope / thought is that his performance would be more representative of the entirety of his career. With his age though, who knows.
We’ll see if this particular deal goes through. Whether it does or doesn’t, I’d say Dalbec is a decent bet to get moved this offseason. He’s youngish and affordable, and has shown enough in stretches that he’s probably attractive to teams in a way that Duran isn’t. In other words, he’s the kind of player who on his own or in a package (with Houck?) could potentially bring back something useful. Any corresponding moves, such as this rumored signing, wouldn’t be because the particular player being signed is necessarily better than Dalbec, but because the overall package of what we get back for Dalbec plus whomever is signed to replace him is better than Dalbec.
As to this particular signing, I would find it surprising mostly because of the 40-man implications. The Sox already are in a situation where they‘re going to have to trim the roster. I don’t see replacing one 1b/DH type with another when middle infield and outfield could use some beefing up.
As to this particular signing, I would find it surprising mostly because of the 40-man implications. The Sox already are in a situation where they‘re going to have to trim the roster. I don’t see replacing one 1b/DH type with another when middle infield and outfield could use some beefing up.
I know Baerga has also posted something - but that initial Twitter account is a troll/fake account.
Go down his timeline and it’s very obvious to tell.
Go down his timeline and it’s very obvious to tell.
Why would we waste our time with this guy? Even if he plays well, this team is unlikely to seriously compete for a championship next year. It's not like he's the missing piece that will put us over the top, and at his age, by the time that we have a stronger roster, he's going to be long gone. Just give the at bats to Casas so he can gain experience and we can learn whether he can be a real contributor.
Seems possible the Sox are focusing on guys who make contact---this is three this offseason. That could be coincidence, just who was available, or a view that contact is underrated (possibly related a bit to changing shift rules?)
Not an exciting signing, if true, but not awful either as I'm not a big Dalbec believer and he might have a bit of trade value
Not an exciting signing, if true, but not awful either as I'm not a big Dalbec believer and he might have a bit of trade value
So the off-season and acquisitions are done with this? I guess the Raffy resigning honeymoon only lasted a couple days.
We were not allowed to have opinions about what the front office might be doing because they signed Raffy? I guess I won't bother with this forum until the season starts.
You're right, he's not the missing piece. Assuming for a moment that Dalbec may not be in the plans, you'll still need a back up at 1B and it's not like Casas is going to play 162 games. The season's a grind and if he hits a wall, there can be more confidence to be lost than gained if you send him out every day during a particularly bad stretch.
You only sign him if you are moving Dalbec.
Dalbec is a great piece for a small market team. He has a floor is being a cheap platoon player and there is still potential for more production with some approach adjustments.
He and Rafaela would be a significant package for the Marlins.
Dalbec is a great piece for a small market team. He has a floor is being a cheap platoon player and there is still potential for more production with some approach adjustments.
He and Rafaela would be a significant package for the Marlins.
You are allowed all the opinions. Basing an opinion on their team not likely to be competing for,the postseason, when there are still two months of off season left, feels premature to me. As has all the wailing since the off-season began.
The sky may well fall. But we are just one week into January and it just as well might not fall.
Even if they don’t look to be a championship contender, you still want to make incremental improvements where you can, esp when the cost is minimal; and there’s still a path to contending if several things go right.
Assuming the Sox have bigger goals than just treading water, Dalbec has no place on this roster. He has had two seasons to show what he has. Throw out what stats you have -- consistency is the #1 quality that you want. A championship run can't be a lottery ticket. When Dalbec goes cold he goes cold and you can't have a valuable roster spot being a black hole at the wrong time. He's not a bad player, but he's the type of player that needs to be on a KC to see if he has anything. Their (and others like them) risk tolerance is much, much higher than the Sox for obvious reasons.
