soxhop411 said:
Cross-posted from the Spring Training 2014 thread: Christian Vazquez has a cannon for an arm.
soxhop411 said:
Sprowl said:
Cross-posted from the Spring Training 2014 thread: Christian Vazquez has a cannon for an arm.
Savin Hillbilly said:What I love about that clip is not only the strong accurate throw, but the great instincts and mental quickness on display. The pitch looks like it comes in at least a foot above the target, and Vazquez adjusts so quickly and smoothly that you'd swear that was exactly where he was expecting it.
Could? I'd say your 2015 is far and away the most likely scenario at this point.Rasputin said:
If you think about it, in 2015 we could have third, center, short, catcher, and one of the pitching slots as home grown guys with three years of experience or less, and in 2016 we'd have the potential to have an entire rotation of homegrown guys.
NoXInNixon said:Could? I'd say your 2015 is far and away the most likely scenario at this point.
Rasputin said:
If you think about it, in 2015 we could have third, center, short, catcher, and one of the pitching slots as home grown guys with three years of experience or less, and in 2016 we'd have the potential to have an entire rotation of homegrown guys.
I'll say. You've pegged DP's retirement date before he turns 32.Rasputin said:
I try to be cautious with my predictions.
Rasputin said:
If you think about it, in 2015 we could have third, center, short, catcher, and one of the pitching slots as home grown guys with three years of experience or less, and in 2016 we'd have the potential to have an entire rotation of homegrown guys.
Reading comprehension -- it's like the SAT's all over again.Major Offense said:I'll say. You've pegged DP's retirement date before he turns 32.
Which is to say, you can add 2B to the list of 2015 homegrowners.
Wow, you're right...and thanks for restarting my nightmares about those SAT analogy questions. What the hell is the relationship between rock and stone, anyway? Except that my head seems to be full of both.Saints Rest said:
Reading comprehension -- it's like the SAT's all over again.
If you want to look at '16 and remove the three year limitation, it's half of left, center, third short, second, catcher, the entire rotation, and a couple bullpen spots.Major Offense said:Wow, you're right...and thanks for restarting my nightmares about those SAT analogy questions. What the hell is the relationship between rock and stone, anyway? Except that my head seems to be full of both.
HriniakPosterChild said:It was a nice play, no doubt. But his best play ever?
Think back to the Buchholz no-hitter. Does anyone have a way to get a gif of that? I can't find a video of Pedroia's play online.
I agree. Lost in all the hullablaloo over the interference and the rest, was the unbelievable play that Pedroia made to start it all.LogansDad said:You wanna talk about "importance"... that's probably the thing that pisses me off the most about the play in Game 3 of the World Series last year. If Salty holds onto that ball at home or WMB keeps it from going into left field, and the Sox get out of the inning on the next play, you are talking about one of the best, most important plays in team history.
Instead, the amazing play that Pedey makes is just the beginning of one of the weirdest endings to a postseason game ever.
Pilgrim said:The arm is what gets me, on that play. I really think he could have been an above average SS if they felt like playing him there.
Here's the video: http://a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2007/open/tp/archive09/090107_balbos_pedroia_def_tp_350.wmvHriniakPosterChild said:It was a nice play, no doubt. But his best play ever?
Think back to the Buchholz no-hitter. Does anyone have a way to get a gif of that? I can't find a video of Pedroia's play online.
wow.TheGoldenGreek33 said:
Nite Vizhun UV said:Here's the throw from a different camera angle
He's so quick that it almost seems like one day he's going to throw one into CF because the throw beats the 2B/SS to the bag.TheGoldenGreek33 said:
TheGoldenGreek33 said:
Don't have the software to do it but the ESPN replay on MLB.TV shows a beautiful one-hop throw that beats Ells to the bag by 8-10 feet.TheYaz67 said:Our GIF overlords hopefully can find/make one of the throw by JBJ to nail Dreamboat at 3rd....
Doooweeeey! said:Don't have the software to do it but the ESPN replay on MLB.TV shows a beautiful one-hop throw that beats Ells to the bag by 8-10 feet.
Usain Bolt tagging up would not have scored on the play.
epraz said:
Excellent effort, but...does the runner look safe to anyone else?
Agree, mostly. Ells was certainly taking a significant risk with the ball hit to left center. But Jacoby has speed he relies upon, so it's not that easy to second guess what happened.ookami7m said:
To be fair, if Ells had been alert and seen where Beltran was he wouldn't have slid and would have drawn it out to get the run. But that takes nothing away from the great play by JBJ
True, but what was the upside to Ells running. At best, he's on 3rd with 2 outs. With his speed, he probably scores on almost anything hit into the outfield anyway. And his running put the run at risk (and as it turned out, cost them a run). Not a smart baseball move.Doooweeeey! said:Agree, mostly. Ells was certainly taking a significant risk with the ball hit to left center. But Jacoby has speed he relies upon, so it's not that easy to second guess what happened.
I just hope to see JBJ return the favor against Ells's less than stellar throwing arm and complete the transformation. These are the MFY after all.
Ells may have been thinking that JBJ would throw home and he (Ells) would have third easily. Still not wise of him as you point out, what's the big deal, second or third with two out.Saints Rest said:True, but what was the upside to Ells running. At best, he's on 3rd with 2 outs. With his speed, he probably scores on almost anything hit into the outfield anyway. And his running put the run at risk (and as it turned out, cost them a run). Not a smart baseball move.
I wonder if he got confused -- either by the rule or by the situation (one out, not none) -- and was TRYING to draw the throw to third to help the slower Beltran. Sort of the way that a batter will often try to stretch a single into a double intentionally to draw the throw away from the plate. Again, it only works in a non-2-out situation, and I wonder if that is where Ells goofed.Al Zarilla said:Ells may have been thinking that JBJ would throw home and he (Ells) would have third easily. Still not wise of him as you point out, what's the big deal, second or third with two out.
Saints Rest said:True, but what was the upside to Ells running. At best, he's on 3rd with 2 outs. With his speed, he probably scores on almost anything hit into the outfield anyway. And his running put the run at risk (and as it turned out, cost them a run). Not a smart baseball move.
He's also scored from second on a WP just as often.HriniakPosterChild said:
He's been known to steal home.
Saints Rest said:He's also scored from second on a WP just as often.
Fair point, but his advance threatened (and in fact, eliminated) any chance of him scoring, Beltran scoring, or keeping the inning going. If he anchors down at 2B, JBJ probably still throws in to third and Beltran's amble home would have scored a run AND kept the inning going. Or he could have tagged and gone half way, pending the direction of the throw from JBJ (if JBJ throws home, then Ells walks into third; if JBJ throws into third, then Ells can scamper back to second). If Ellsbury/Girardi saw some huge advantage in being on 3B instead of 2B with 2 outs, he could have tried to steal on a later pitch.HriniakPosterChild said:
If you told me he'd stolen home while starting from second, that would trump my point.
But on third, he gives the LHP something instead of the hitter to pay attention to. If that causes the pitcher to make a less than perfect pitch, it could mean a base hit that scores his run AND keeps the inning going.
Saints Rest said:Fair point, but his advance threatened (and in fact, eliminated) any chance of him scoring, Beltran scoring, or keeping the inning going. If he anchors down at 2B, JBJ probably still throws in to third and Beltran's amble home would have scored a run AND kept the inning going. Or he could have tagged and gone half way, pending the direction of the throw from JBJ (if JBJ throws home, then Ells walks into third; if JBJ throws into third, then Ells can scamper back to second). If Ellsbury/Girardi saw some huge advantage in being on 3B instead of 2B with 2 outs, he could have tried to steal on a later pitch.