10-15 prospect in most places I’ve seen and possibly selling high on a small sample size start at AAA. Considering Priester’s first round pedigree I’m hopeful the three B’s can figure something out—Fishy1 had a good summary of some immediate possibilities with Houck as a blueprint.
Like the Chavis comp. Seems like a sell high on Yorke and buy low on Priester. Considering what the three B’s have done with pitching staff gotta trust them on a move like this.
I learned that from the Sox Prospects podcast, which is very good.
But wouldn't all teams have the same issue? Toronto gains 2 players under control so now they have more of a problem with number of bodies.
Sure. But not every farm system is equal in quality. The bottom two players in their system might not be good enough to have any trade value at all. They can simply be cut.
Position player prospects of this type (intriguing but not stud) can’t be worth a whole lot on the market compared to a live arm? Or at least we need more of the latter and less of the former.
As to the bolded, I'm not sure that every team is smarter now. Rather, I think most every team uses very similar evaluation tools. And most every team employs people in the FO that all were brought up learning very similar processes for player evaluation.
What makes you feel this way?
And WooSox number seem to be pretty high for a lot of proven mediocre players, so I am rather suspicious of them. Can't completely ignore them or say everyone there is trash, I'd just say that it would take a lot more good data in Worcester to make me trust them above the average AA numbers he put up.
Value is likely in the eye of the beholder. Our biggest glaring need as an organization is good, young cost controlled pitching. The Sox need to get a bunch of these types in the pipeline if possible and if you ask me, possibly selling high on a guy who is positionally blocked with, a questionable future for a guy who fits the profile of players we need to stockpile looks like decent value.
Perhaps the terms “prospects” and “minor leaguers” should not be used interchangeably.
I'm not sure what distinction you are trying to make here. Yorke is a prospect. He could turn into a solid major league contributor, but he needs to figure some stuff out. Priester looks like he needs to figure some stuff out too to be an effective MLB contributor. Yorke isn't org filler or a guy sticking around as emergency depth.
Speaking of which: dude is 13-3, and the last 3 games the Braves have lost with Sale pitching, his line has been:
Works for me.
They traded him for a guy of roughly equal value at a much more useful position (at least to Boston). That seems like good value to me.
Exactly. I really like Yorke but it was a perfect move to sell high on him based on our organizational depth.
You’re probably right.
Remember that not all the “list” numbers are up to date. Like if we trade Kristian Campbell at the deadline, a lot of these reporters would call him our “number 25 prospect” or wherever he was ranked preseason.
This. ++++ If the Sox were to keep him and promote him in 2025 to the second base slot, it would be "no prob" to add him to the 40.
You honestly believe that there's a non-zero chance of Nick Yorke becoming Jeff Bagwell?
I doubt that he'll be a Bagwell, I agree with that. But he will likely be a solid, regular 2nd baseman or outfielder. Priester? Let's hope the coaches can figure him out, otherwise it's a bad trade.
Just curious - what makes you think this about Yorke? And then not about Priester, I suppose?
Why do you think this? He is projected as an average to below-average fielder at second base. He was pretty meh as a hitter in Portland for 2 years. He has had a good run in Worcester. As shaggydog2000 said above Worcester numbers are a bit inflated. Bobby Dalbec is a good hitter in Worcester. Bobby Dalbec! We tend to over-value our prospects and under-value other teams' prospects.
We were playing him in LF in Worcester, so I really don’t think this is as certain as you’re presenting it.
The best bet right now is Wong to 2B against lefties, with Hamilton on the long end of the platoon.
I like it! And I like the trade a lot since it fills a position of need using a position of surplus. Even if Yorke becomes an All-Star and Priester hurts his elbow and never pitches again, it is a worthwhile risk/reward.
This is definitely a long term move, and the kind of move they we need to make. We have a huge gap in pitching prospect pipeline and Bello may be more of a bottom of the rotation arm than a middle rotation arm
