Right right.
I guess we will see. Personally I hope Duran finds a way to stay, I enjoy being excited about a player and it makes every at bat “must watch” for me.
Red Sox acquire Kyle Schwarber
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I guess we will see. Personally I hope Duran finds a way to stay, I enjoy being excited about a player and it makes every at bat “must watch” for me.
Presumably, Workman's spot is going to be filled today by activating Sawamura.
Schwarber won't need a roster spot for at least a couple weeks. They can address that when the time comes.
Schwarber won't need a roster spot for at least a couple weeks. They can address that when the time comes.
For people gnashing their teeth at OF depth beacuse they want the same player to play the same position in the same place in the lineup every single day with the best relief pitchers pitching every close game for the next 2 months, this is a depth move. Resting a Verdugo who has been banged up all year, protection against a prolonged slump by Renfroe or just resting him occasionally, taking some pressure off Duran and giving Martinez a rest now and then will keep this OF and DH fresh for the postseason where you would have whined about gassed players. Doing that with a guy who has 25 HR for $3M sounds good to me.
Yeah I’ve noted a couple of times that I don’t think Chaim (or Cora) think about positions in the same way the average fan does. It’s clear that neither of them particularly care about any given player playing the same position consistently (except catchers, X, and Devers).
So, yes, we will see some Schwarber at first. But we will also see Schwarber as DH when JD needs a night off, or JD will play left if Verdugo needs a night off, or Verdugo will play right if Renfroe needs a night off, etc.
Agreed. KS could play 80% of the time (and be a late inning PH option on off days) by subbing for each of Hernandez, Verdugo, Renfroe, and JDM once a week (maybe twice for Renfroe). And that’s without him playing any at 1st.
One way to look at Schwarber is as filling the role that Franchy would have filled in a best case scenario - sort of a platoon partner for Renfroe, but also just a general depth OF that allows them to cycle rest for other guys and/or play more of a matchup game in the postseason if everyone’s healthy.
I wonder if there's any way we could measure whether there is a performance benefit to a team having defined roles and expectations. I know players have commented in the past about preferring to have a set position or defined bullpen role. In fact, didn't Kike express a desire to not be moved around positionally when he signed? If the players want it, there's gotta be something to it, right?
In other words, is Verdugo a better defender if he plays LF every night, as opposed to playing all three outfield positions in a week? I have no idea.
Yeah, but unless they're getting someone from the Rays, the odds that they'll get that player to St Pete in time for tonight's game are pretty slim. Most likely Sawamura gets activated today and if they make another trade requiring a roster spot, they can address it tomorrow (option Valdez, option one of Wong, Chavis, Duran, or Franchy, IL somebody, whatever).
Do we have any sense of when Arroyo will be ready? Or Marwin? Or Santana? It'll all fit into the mix, whether we trade for somebody today, or when KS comes of the IL in 2 weeks...
If Manny can play LF I guess I can buy into Schwarber as a late-season platoon LF-DH depth bat. I was hoping for Rizzo, and still wonder if we can get a decent 1st baseman/utility guy (Bryant?) who could play 1st or 3rd. And Santa another starter would be helpful.
I'm late to the party, but I dislike the deal. Hamstring injuries can linger, and although he is expected back in 2 weeks he could have a setback that takes him out the rest of the year. With that in mind, I'd be more comfortable with a PTBNL going out based on him being activated instead of Ramirez, not that I'm high in him either.
Does anyone else detect a strange dynamic between BB Ops and Cora here?
They don't need more HRs/BBs/Ks. They need someone who can put the ball in play when the situation calls for it. Those are the guys Cora wants playing for him, and they keep acquiring these Three True Outcome guys.
I think this roster is unique in its fungibility/versatility and that means it’s necessary to have pieces that may otherwise look redundant. For example, one thing I think Bloom is considering is Xander’s health and the need to give him regular rest. This means that Kiké would move to SS, Verdugo to CF and needing Schwarber in LF. Kiké is going to be playing all over the place the rest of the season would be my guess.
Yeah, who needs or wants to start a game with a 1-0 lead after the 1st AB? The horror.
We definitely don't need that lead off HR though, because the situation never calls for lead off HRs. All about what the situation calls for.
That would be hard to measure and, I suspect, very player dependent. Some guys might thrive moving around, and for others it might be distracting to the point it impacts them both in the field and at the plate.
Couple things. Theo loved this guy and made sure the Cubs drafted him.
In their WS year, Kyle was hurt most of the season, came back for the PS and raked. We’ll see what today brings but If healthy, I can see him being an option at 1st. I like the move.
In their WS year, Kyle was hurt most of the season, came back for the PS and raked. We’ll see what today brings but If healthy, I can see him being an option at 1st. I like the move.
Even if he does not play 1B, he can be a huge difference maker in the postseason. Much more so than I have faith in guys like Franchy, Marwin, etc. doing.
Great. Yanks, Jays, Rays all vastly improve. Not impressed with this deadline so far, although again, I do like the Schwarber move.
This is where I am. Schwarber fills a need, sure, and he's a good player. But every other team you're going to contend with has been aggressive and filled multiple holes, and if they end up passing you this stretch of inactivity will be why.
And if other teams don't, will it be because of Chaim's brilliant resolve to stand pat and only add Schwarber?
Jays send Austin Martin and Simeon Woods-Richardson to Minnesota for Berrios. Martin is a big time prospect. SWR was but stock has fallen.
View: https://twitter.com/danhayesmlb/status/1421147360688754691?s=21
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1.It’s not 4 o’clock yet
2. If they somehow get overtaken by the Jays or Yankees it will be because the team totally fell apart, not because of anything they did or didn’t do. Meanwhile, Chris Sale is walking through that door.
3. Schwarber is better than you think.
True. I have said before, 2004 was not a "great" trade deadline and that turned out fantastic.
I think Schwarber is really good. Guy was the hottest hitter on the planet before his hamstring popped.
To your second point, there are already signs that the team is sputtering (although probably not falling apart). They don't have a single SP in the top 25 in ERA and I'd only put Eovaldi in the "feel OK starting in the playoffs" group. As Pete Abe tweeted this morning, the entire rotation outside Nate has been AWFUL post ASB, and you're looking at an offense whose output the last six games is 3, 5, 5, 1, 4, 1. That's not going to get it done, unfortunately.
Can't control what other teams do at the deadline, so what the Rays, Jays, and Yankees have done should be irrelevant to what Bloom and the Red Sox do. They're in first place with the team they have, and they know (better than we do) what they can do to maintain or improve. Everyone else is more desperate so of course they're going to make more or "bigger" moves. Doesn't mean they're doing it better.
Wow, all our foes putting their chips in. There’s some virtue to holding while these teams clear out their systems (while at least one will fail to make the postseason at all).
This makes it a little less likely the Jays retain Robbie Ray next year, and he’s a guy I’d love to see us sign.
This makes it a little less likely the Jays retain Robbie Ray next year, and he’s a guy I’d love to see us sign.
You mean made an official statement like, oh, a tweet?
Yes, they have.
View: https://twitter.com/RedSox/status/1420951003877228544
What makes you think Bloom may want to ship out their future CF? I hope not! He was aggressive shipping out guys when they got expensive, but Duran is cost controlled for a long while
Assuming Schwarber plays soon, I think Bloom did good here. This is turning out to be a grossly inflated seller’s market and one I don’t blame him being on the sidelines for.
Yeah, it's not a terrible move. The only problem is that if nothing happens in the next 26 minutes, Bobby Dalbec and Franchy Cordero are our 1st base platoon for the next two weeks at the minimum.
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And that's dissimilar to the 1B platoon for the last four months how? Point being they've gotten this far, and have the second best record in the league, without stellar production out of 1B. Bloom and the baseball ops folks aren't unaware of it. Maybe they believe they can survive the next couple weeks with the status quo.
View: https://twitter.com/jcmccaffrey/status/1421121349892943875
Jen McCaffrey with a cool story about Schwarber.
Jen McCaffrey with a cool story about Schwarber.