Trump doesn't just have different political beliefs. Saying that normalizes a lot of his behaviors that shouldn't be normal.Should players or people for that matter only accept invitations from people with whom their political beliefs align? Or just maybe people understand each other just a little bit better if they are in a room together.
That might explain his rage-tweeting after Dave Roberts pulled Rich Hill.One consolation, Trump is a MFY fan.
These are not the people who are going to breach that wall. No meeting of athletes and DJT is going to increase understanding one iotaShould players or people for that matter only accept invitations from people with whom their political beliefs align? Or just maybe people understand each other just a little bit better if they are in a room together.
Great teaching opportunity. Missed.This is disappointing, but not surprising. All year long my kid has been asking me if his favorite Red Sox players are Trump supporters. My answer: Almost certainly, if they're white. I love baseball, but the majority of the players are redneck ignoramuses.
Actually yes. To use an example, Charles Limbergh.Should players or people for that matter only accept invitations from people with whom their political beliefs align?.
Just say cheese. Then go home.Actually yes. To use an example, Charles Limbergh.
Unless some worry that ICE will be hanging around to make sure everyone's visa checks out.Should players or people for that matter only accept invitations from people with whom their political beliefs align? Or just maybe people understand each other just a little bit better if they are in a room together.
As is the tradition of the president throwing out the first pitch at the beginning of Washington's home season but somehow he hasn't found it within himself to uphold that tradition.My own view: He's president, this is tradition and the team should go
"Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it that day. I'll be home in Puerto Rico doing what I can to help the people there continue with their recovery from the devastation caused by Hurricane Maria."I agree with this, but only if the first and most public person to opt out is Cora himself.
I imagine Cora believes he might be able to persuade Trump to do something good for Puerto Rico. Trump’s m.o. is to do personal favors for celebrities. See: Kimye. Worth a shot. I’m not happy about it and will be pissed off if they give Trump a 45 jersey, but that’s petty compared to improving the lives of people still suffering from the hurricane in PR, even if only a little.Strange decision from a team that specifically cited their diversity as a strength in their championship season. I do wonder how Cora really feels about this, and why he's choosing to go given Trump's disdain and neglect for Puerto Rico since coming into office.
If that's the case I think Cora's being naive. This is a photo shoot, POTUS gives an anodyne speech for 10 mins and then everyone smiles real big type of event. If Cora really thinks he's going to bend Trump's ear to get help to Puerto Rico...well, good luck with that.I imagine Cora believes he might be able to persuade Trump to do something good for Puerto Rico. Trump’s m.o. is to do personal favors for celebrities. See: Kimye. Worth a shot. I’m not happy about it and will be pissed off if they give Trump a 45 jersey, but that’s petty compared to improving the lives of people still suffering from the hurricane in PR, even if only a little.
I mean to be fair you’re essentially undercutting everything they’ve done as an organization to promote diversity since Henry bought the team. You’re going for a photo op with the most racist homophobic president of this era. I know on a team there’s going to be 25 players with 25 different view points and that’s okay. But the overall optics of the Boston Red Sox supporting 45’s agenda by going is sad. It’s not unexpected. But if they listened to the fan base that bought tickets and buy those first to 100 t-shirts then the outcome would have been a lot different.If that's the case I think Cora's being naive. This is a photo shoot, POTUS gives an anodyne speech for 10 mins and then everyone smiles real big type of event. If Cora really thinks he's going to bend Trump's ear to get help to Puerto Rico...well, good luck with that.
While I wish they told Trump to go shit in a hat, this doesn't bother me too much because the team is so diverse and Cora's the leader.
I think most sentient people know that going to this photo op ceremony is not "supporting his agenda" except to people who think the Earth is flat. (That said, there are likely players that *do* support his agenda; and likely those who dont). Staying away is a statement. Going is not.But the overall optics of the Boston Red Sox supporting 45’s agenda by going is sad.
Also the fact the Orange asshat is going to have a 45 jersey of his own disgusts me. Pedro is 100 times the man he will ever be.
I get what you're saying. OTOH -- "No, we're all going to the Elks Club after practice, what are you going to do about it" might have had some positive effect.Given that the Sox ownership has taken steps to distance themselves from a terrible past legacy of racism from Tom Yawkey's tenure, including getting rid of the Yawkey Way name, going to the WH seems bafflingly inept of them since Trump's main agenda these days is painting brown people as evil.
I get what you're saying. OTOH -- "No, we're all going to the Elks Club after practice, what are you going to do about it" might have had some positive effect.
As I said, I don't think anyone who matters will actually see this as a vote for Trump's policies. And, in a sense, the team's going robs him of the chance to turn it into another day of dog-whistling. He probably *wants* the team from Elizabeth Warren's backyard to stay home. Maybe they'll let Cora give a team "thank you." Maybe he'll do it in Spanish.
I love this. That is all.They should bring Bill Mueller along. That’d spook him!
I really don't know what the hell some of you expected. But if you expected anything other than this, you probably should take a break from the news in general because it's rotted your brain. You're obsessed. I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but The Boston goddamn Red Sox aren't going to make some huge political gesture here. The winning team gets a trip to the White House, which has more than just Trump in it, and means more than just the Trump administration. It's just a dumb tradition and I'm sure whoever doesn't feel comfortable going has every right to stay home.
Lovely.This is disappointing, but not surprising. All year long my kid has been asking me if his favorite Red Sox players are Trump supporters. My answer: Almost certainly, if they're white. I love baseball, but the majority of the players are redneck ignoramuses.
The Philadelphia Eagles essentially told Trump to get stuffed. That's what I would have liked to see here.I really don't know what the hell some of you expected. But if you expected anything other than this, you probably should take a break from the news in general because it's rotted your brain. You're obsessed. I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but The Boston goddamn Red Sox aren't going to make some huge political gesture here. The winning team gets a trip to the White House, which has more than just Trump in it, and means more than just the Trump administration. It's just a dumb tradition and I'm sure whoever doesn't feel comfortable going has every right to stay home.
Me, I’m hoping they forgo the jersey and give him a “Damage Done” t-shirt, size XXXXL.There is only one name that belongs on the back of a 45 jersey, and it is not Trump's. It better be a home jersey with no name across the shoulders.
It's a retired number for goodness sake.
Maybe Cora wants and opportunity to whisper "fuck you" right in Trump's ear, though. It's not up to the organization to tell people they can't go. It's an opportunity that they've earned and they shouldn't be suppressed from being able to just because Trump sucks. That should be 100% up to the individual.At least show some class like the Warriors did. They came out and said as a team they would not accept the invitation. Not listen to dumb rednecks like Hembree who is barely going to make the 25 man. I mean to each their own but why should any team go for a photo op that’s designed to give positive press to the most oppressive president in recent history. If Cora thinks he’s actually going to care about Puerto Rico he’s naive. Trump probably thought it was a foreign country.
I'm sure you're right. Henry took one look at drunk Hembree video and said, "boys, we're going."At least show some class like the Warriors did. They came out and said as a team they would not accept the invitation. Not listen to dumb rednecks like Hembree who is barely going to make the 25 man. I mean to each their own but why should any team go for a photo op that’s designed to give positive press to the most oppressive president in recent history. If Cora thinks he’s actually going to care about Puerto Rico he’s naive. Trump probably thought it was a foreign country.
Fair enough, I guess, that another big team did it. But, I'm curious now what affect that had and whether or not the Sox learned anything from that experience.The Philadelphia Eagles essentially told Trump to get stuffed. That's what I would have liked to see here.
The Yankees gave him #98 in 1998.All this talk of giving the President a jersey, I mean, I understand the debate but...does it mean nothing that number 45 is retired? I did a quick search and couldn't find a picture of Clinton with a number 42 baseball jersey (another obviously retired number).
Good points. I hope and pray it’s a Jersey with 666 or a middle finger on the back of it. But this is still a truly awful idea to go.The Yankees gave him #98 in 1998.
Obama got a #27 jersey in 2009 instead of Reggie Jackson's retired #44. There's absolutely no reason it'd have to be #45.
You don't deal with children by acting like more of one.Good points. I hope and pray it’s a Jersey with 666 or a middle finger on the back of it. But this is still a truly awful idea to go.
So 18 would be the obvious number. I assume Mitch Moreland, Shane Victorino, DiceK, Damon and Carlos Quintana will get over it.The Yankees gave him #98 in 1998.
Obama got a #27 jersey in 2009 instead of Reggie Jackson's retired #44. There's absolutely no reason it'd have to be #45.
Thank you for this. Give the President an 18 jersey and this is a non-story — all due respect to Moreland, Victorino, DiceK, Johnny Damon, Tomo Ohka, Midre Cummings, and Reggie Jefferson.The Yankees gave him #98 in 1998.
Obama got a #27 jersey in 2009 instead of Reggie Jackson's retired #44. There's absolutely no reason it'd have to be #45.
Thank you for this. Give the President an 18 jersey and this is a non-story — all due respect to Moreland, Victorino, DiceK, Johnny Damon, Tomo Ohka, Midre Cummings, and Reggie Jefferson.
45 is sacrosanct.
Ted Cox 4 President.
Edit: Beaten by Squints!
Why would we want them to skip an opportunity to remind such a hateable MFY fan what they did to the team he roots for?One consolation, Trump is a MFY fan.
It IS an honor to go to the White House, just not the circus act currently accompanying it.Good, it’s an honor to go to the White House.
So the Red Sox could give him a jersey with Moreland’s #18? Better than #45, I guess. “0” would be even better... or “00” if for some reason they don’t want to diss Brandon Phillips. Can jerseys have negative numbers? Too bad “20-to-life” won’t fit.The Yankees gave him #98 in 1998.
Obama got a #27 jersey in 2009 instead of Reggie Jackson's retired #44. There's absolutely no reason it'd have to be #45.
Pinstripes. The horizontal kind.Too bad “20-to-life” won’t fit.
I've got my hands full with my ten-year old, but Googling "MLB politics" will get you started on your education.Great teaching opportunity. Missed.