Recommend me a 55-65 inch TV

[Batman Likes The Sox]

Thanks @The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa unfortunately it is with different cables. I was hoping for a bad cable, but alas they are all good.

I'll check for the component input possibility but I suspect after a little more looking around today that an HDMI switch will have to do.

The rest of this thread will be helpful eventually -- I'd like to put a 65" TV in this room anyway, and move this 55" one with the three working inputs to the less used room with (currently) a very old TV.

 

[NortheasternPJ]

Thanks @The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa unfortunately it is with different cables. I was hoping for a bad cable, but alas they are all good.

I'll check for the component input possibility but I suspect after a little more looking around today that an HDMI switch will have to do.

The rest of this thread will be helpful eventually -- I'd like to put a 65" TV in this room anyway, and move this 55" one with the three working inputs to the less used room with (currently) a very old TV.

See now you’re thinking like me. Sorry wife, the 4th HDMI port isn’t working! I need to go buy a 65” OLED and move this one to my office.

 

[Batman Likes The Sox]

Ok, I’m right back in the thread for some more specific advice.

As noted above, I was losing HDMI functionality. The switch I bought in September has been handling all the HDMI cables into the ONE remaining working slot on this TV:

Samsung UN55NU8000FXZA FLAT 55”... View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079NBMTWY


Now it appears that last slot is ready to give.

So we need a TV. One other wrinkle though, we are now possibly starting to look at a far move in the next year or two. So we were hoping to move, if that happens, with no TV in tow.

So, here’s my question:
What’s a solid TV that’s somewhat like the one above, and roughly the same size (could be a bit bigger) but as low priced as possible? What would you buy if you were going to give it away in possibly less than a year and just needed a functioning set?

 

[Yaz4Ever]

We’re planning to replace two of our TVs, both approximately 15 years old. Anything we get will likely be vastly better than what we have and, because we don’t really watch much TV, we’re looking at brands like Hisense and TCL. I’d like to get a 65” and a 50-55” set to replace what we have. We have AppleTVs connected to both, but I don’t believe they’re the 4k boxes. Any suggestions will be appreciated.

I’m currently looking at this one: Hisense 65-inch Class ULED Premium U7H QLED Series Quantum Dot Google 4K Native 120Hz Refresh Rate Smart TV (65U7H, 2022 Model)

 

[genoasalami]

We’re planning to replace two of our TVs, both approximately 15 years old. Anything we get will likely be vastly better than what we have and, because we don’t really watch much TV, we’re looking at brands like Hisense and TCL. I’d like to get a 65” and a 50-55” set to replace what we have. We have AppleTVs connected to both, but I don’t believe they’re the 4k boxes. Any suggestions will be appreciated.

I’m currently looking at this one: Hisense 65-inch Class ULED Premium U7H QLED Series Quantum Dot Google 4K Native 120Hz Refresh Rate Smart TV (65U7H, 2022 Model)

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/hisense/u7h

 

[Yaz4Ever]

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/hisense/u7h

Thanks for the site recommendation. Their comparison feature is amazing.

 

[Doc Zero]

Just evaluated the U7H last week.

It is indeed a tremendous TV for the price. Fantastic HDR thanks to its class-leading brightness, decent color, and more gaming features than just about anything else in its price bracket (if that sort of thing matters to you).

A couple of notes: There are a handful of picture processing-related issues that may be fixed with future firmware updates (but perhaps not). It doesn't upscale sub-4K content quite as cleanly as a TV like the TCL 5-Series, for instance. More notably is some red color fringing with picture elements in motion. This could simply be an issue with my review unit's panel, but given Hisense's recent history with this minor bug, my guess is that it's widespread.

Take a look at the image of Peter Parker below. Along his hairline you can make out blotches of red tint. These artifacts flashlight while Peter is in motion. Eagle-eyed viewers are likely to notice this often, particularly with upscaled streaming content. Characters' hairlines are where I noticed this the most.

That said, I don't think I can name a better TV in the $400 to $700 price range this year, and I think 8 out of 10 people wouldn't notice that color fringing unless it was pointed out to them. It's a 120Hz panel that cracks 1,000 nits in HDR. That's absolutely wild for the price.

 

[Yaz4Ever]

thanks @Doc Zero ... appreciate your feedback

 

[Doc Zero]

Anytime! Let me know if there are any other models that pique your interest; I've done deep-dives into just about every major release this year.

 

[Yaz4Ever]

Thanks to @genoasalami and @Doc Zero , I was able to pick out two sets that should work well for my needs. Getting the Hisense 65A6H and Hisense 50A6H for a total of $585.86 after tax. Plus, someone at work said she'd give me $50 each for the two I'm replacing and was just going to donate, so even better.

 

[TallerThanPedroia]

Anyone have any issues with their LG CX?

Mine has started randomly freezing the image, which then jumps around the screen and turns different colors. The TV then turns itself off and back on again, and the whole thing repeats until I unplug it.

Having trouble finding similar cases via Google.

 

[NortheasternPJ]

Anyone have any issues with their LG CX?

Mine has started randomly freezing the image, which then jumps around the screen and turns different colors. The TV then turns itself off and back on again, and the whole thing repeats until I unplug it.

Having trouble finding similar cases via Google.

Not to scare you but that was the end of my BX. I got it replaced by my CC company under warranty but it was toast after only 16-18 months.

 

[TallerThanPedroia]

Not to scare you but that was the end of my BX. I got it replaced by my CC company under warranty but it was toast after only 16-18 months.

Got mine in March 2021.

Was it ever diagnosed? Did it die entirely eventually?

 

[NortheasternPJ]

Got mine in March 2021.

Was it ever diagnosed? Did it die entirely eventually?

I should probably go turn it on to see if it's alive. It did stop working. I could get audio but nothing else IIRC. The biggest hassle was finding someone to diagnose it. I called the 4-5 LG Authorized places in Eastern MA and all but 1 refused to look at it and basically said TV's are disposable. This was also the major issue with the credit card company because of the cost to repair. They wanted a repair cost before they refunded. I was very disappointed in Chase on this, they'd been great on one I did years ago.

 

[TallerThanPedroia]

I did check and my Chase credit card has extended warranty so I'm not out of luck. But yeah, it sounds like there will be some hassle involved.

 

[Doc Zero]

My C1 is fucked. White vertical line about an inch off from the left-side bezel. Broke three weeks after LG’s one-year warranty ended. Happened last week and I’m still waiting on a call as to whether or not they’re giving me a one-time courtesy panel replacement.

My advice would be to buy from a retailer that offers an extended warranty. I sure wish I did!

 

[Bowhemian]

Shit. When I first read the post about the busted LG I was thinking, boy am I glad I didn’t buy an LG. But here I sit, all tucked in for the Pats game, staring at my 75” LG, and I have no clue what model it is.

 

[Doc Zero]

In my C1’s case it’s specifically an OLED thing. A switch is busted that controls that column of pixels. It’s not a problem you’d see in the same way on an LCD.

I still stand by the tech and by LG, for what it’s worth. It’s just supremely disappointing!

 

[NortheasternPJ]

In my C1’s case it’s specifically an OLED thing. A switch is busted that controls that column of pixels. It’s not a problem you’d see in the same way on an LCD.

I still stand by the tech and by LG, for what it’s worth. It’s just supremely disappointing!

Funny mine was about the same time, I think it was 13-14 months after purchase. The issue I have is that when we did our addition we were tight on space and we did an enclosed area over the fireplace that closes in with doors. My wife was 100% on not wanting to see the TV all day for some reason. The space is about 3" deep so I'm limited on options, so went with another LG. It has been fine so far. Fingers crossed.

 

[JakeRae]

Does anyone here have thoughts/experience with the Samsung S95B?

 

[Max Power]

Funny mine was about the same time, I think it was 13-14 months after purchase. The issue I have is that when we did our addition we were tight on space and we did an enclosed area over the fireplace that closes in with doors. My wife was 100% on not wanting to see the TV all day for some reason. The space is about 3" deep so I'm limited on options, so went with another LG. It has been fine so far. Fingers crossed.

Do you have enough airflow behind it? It's possible you're cooking the panel and will run into this again in a year.

 

[NortheasternPJ]

Do you have enough airflow behind it? It's possible you're cooking the panel and will run into this again in a year.

I had wondered that with the first panel. It’s pretty tight but there should be enough airflow. I’m using it now and it’s cool behind there with no real heat. My suspect last time was the Xfinity cable box may have been the culprit because of the heat generation of it. The new 4k boxers are a lot smaller and way less heat.

 

[Max Power]

These TVs take in cool air from below and vent upwards. If you mount the cable box in an upper corner behind it, at worst you're cooking Comcast's box and not anything of your own. The 4k boxes don't even have clocks on them anymore, so there isn't much point in having it visible.

 

[TallerThanPedroia]

Anyone have any issues with their LG CX?

Mine has started randomly freezing the image, which then jumps around the screen and turns different colors. The TV then turns itself off and back on again, and the whole thing repeats until I unplug it.

Having trouble finding similar cases via Google.

Okay and now it's just dead completely.

 

[TallerThanPedroia]

You know how you can buy refurbished electronics? How do you sell stuff to get refurbished?

Does anyone here have thoughts/experience with the Samsung S95B?

Suddenly curious as well! My Samsung Plasma was still working well after 11 years when I replaced it with this LG hunk of junk.

 

[TallerThanPedroia]

First repair guy I talked to had a lot of opinions about LG and OLEDs. Upshot is I'm screwed though. He won't even try to replace the CPU because LG changed their policy, and if he orders the wrong one they won't exchange it for him.

On to the next guy (it's a short list).

 

[TFP]

First repair guy I talked to had a lot of opinions about LG and OLEDs.

As an LG OLED owner this has me dismayed.

 

[TallerThanPedroia]

He said basically:

He hasn't repaired a TV in four years. It's usually cheaper just to replace them. If you breathe on the OLED panel wrong it will die. LG changed their policy so if he ordered the wrong CPU for me, he'd be stuck with it, they won't exchange it, and he's too small to float that cost.

LG is bad in general, and he's worked with them for years, using cheap parts because they want people to buy TVs as often as they buy cell phones. Sony was also bad, and they got out of the market and have only just come back in, but mostly for commercial not residential. Thinks marketing people just lie about OLED. Yeah they look great but they're fragile, and he laughed at claims that the pixels could repair themselves because they're organic. "They're not starfish!" He has a Samsung UHD at home and it's lasted seven years.

He gave me two other people to call at least.

 

[cgori]

Yeah they look great but they're fragile, and he laughed at claims that the pixels could repair themselves because they're organic. "They're not starfish!"

Does anyone actually think this? God help us all.

The organic is referring to the chemical nature of the emissive polymer layer (i.e. an organic compound, meaning carbon-based) in the construction of the driver element, between the two electrodes. This is to differentiate it from a conventional LED that has doped p/n junction silicon (or some other semiconductor) and no organic compound.

There's nothing actually alive inside.

 

[TallerThanPedroia]

Does anyone actually think this? God help us all.

The organic is referring to the chemical nature of the emissive polymer layer (i.e. an organic compound, meaning carbon-based) in the construction of the driver element, between the two electrodes. This is to differentiate it from a conventional LED that has doped p/n junction silicon (or some other semiconductor) and no organic compound.

There's nothing actually alive inside.

I mean, I had not heard that before. But this guy was taking the non-crazy side so I dunno, I rolled with it. Maybe some marketing guy said that to him once.

 

[NortheasternPJ]

He said basically:

He hasn't repaired a TV in four years. It's usually cheaper just to replace them. If you breathe on the OLED panel wrong it will die. LG changed their policy so if he ordered the wrong CPU for me, he'd be stuck with it, they won't exchange it, and he's too small to float that cost.

LG is bad in general, and he's worked with them for years, using cheap parts because they want people to buy TVs as often as they buy cell phones. Sony was also bad, and they got out of the market and have only just come back in, but mostly for commercial not residential. Thinks marketing people just lie about OLED. Yeah they look great but they're fragile, and he laughed at claims that the pixels could repair themselves because they're organic. "They're not starfish!" He has a Samsung UHD at home and it's lasted seven years.

He gave me two other people to call at least.

My impression of LG is generally they made overpriced trash appliances. I've been told by a number of people to avoid them like the plague, especially when their washer/dryers were all the rage. The only reason I went with LG on the TV was that OLEDs look amazing and LG basically makes all, if not close to all the panels, so I was getting their tech either way. As someone who's been happy with Samsung Plasmas for years, I would probably go Samsung QLED (which I know is completely different tech than OLED) but I would miss the OLED. Then again, if the OLED isn't working not much to miss out on. I'm not buying a 3rd LG OLED in the next 24 months.

 

[TallerThanPedroia]

Repair Guy #2 wants me to bring the TV into his shop and pay him $100 just to troubleshoot it.

 

[cgori]

Repair Guy #2 wants me to bring the TV into his shop and pay him $100 just to troubleshoot it.

Not uncommon, usually converts to a labor credit (either fully or partially) if they ultimately do the repair.

 

[LoweTek]

Curious if you guys having these LGs fail on you are pluging them directly into a wall outlet or if you are running them through some kind of good surge protector and/or AVR UPS?

And @TallerThanPedroia, Sony has been back in the TV business for more than a few years and for consumer as well as commercial. I have two I think are at least four years old and three years old respectively. My main 65" (not OLED) has a terrific picture. It is on a very good surge and noise suppressor which itself is plugged into a sine wave AVR UPS. Bad electricity is the number one killer of any electronic device but especially large TVs. I would never plug a TV directly into a wall outlet. They always are at minimum using a better surge protector.

All of my mid-high end AVR gear is also powered in the same manner as the 65": surge, noise filter, sine wave AVR UPS. I strongly recommend it. The last two towns I have lived in have crappy, noisy, subject to surge and sag electrical service, not to mention lightning threat. I have had zero electronics failures in more than 16 years taking this approach.

 

[NortheasternPJ]

Curious if you guys having these LGs fail on you are pluging them directly into a wall outlet or if you are running them through some kind of good surge protector and/or AVR UPS?

And @TallerThanPedroia, Sony has been back in the TV business for more than a few years and for consumer as well as commercial. I have two I think are at least four years old and three years old respectively. My main 65" (not OLED) has a terrific picture. It is on a very good surge and noise suppressor which itself is plugged into a sine wave AVR UPS. Bad electricity is the number one killer of any electronic device but especially large TVs. I would never plug a TV directly into a wall outlet. They always are at minimum using a better surge protector.

All of my mid-high end AVR gear is also powered in the same manner as the 65": surge, noise filter, sine wave AVR UPS. I strongly recommend it. The last two towns I have lived in have crappy, noisy, subject to surge and sag electrical service, not to mention lightning threat. I have had zero electronics failures in more than 16 years taking this approach.

Yes I have all my electronics on higher quality surge protectors. The only things I’ve had for are my LG OLED after 13 months and my Bosch Dishwasher (after 8 years ) and we’ve also had most of the house rewired. I’m sure there’s a thread on here from 10-11 years ago about almost killing the Comcast guy. We moved into our house. It was all 2 prong outlets and I did the responsible thing by having an electrician put in 3 prong outlets for our electronics. Stupid electrician said we had reverse polarity and no issues. Comcast plugged in grounded cable wire to a wire bridging the neural and hot, blew up the Comcast metal box and was burned

 

[TallerThanPedroia]

Not uncommon, usually converts to a labor credit (either fully or partially) if they ultimately do the repair.

Apart from how that's not really practical for me (he works like 1pm-5pm four days a week, and is far away, and I'd probably break the TV trying to get it there, etc.), he's not actually on LG's list. He was just recommended by the one other guy to take my phone call.

I wrote to a guy in Leominster who is on the list (I'm in Somerville). He wrote back: "out ill and retired." Extremely unimpressed with LG here.

My CC company did respond but said I need to send them "a copy of a diagnostic form from an authorized service center stating what is wrong with the product and whether it is cost effective to repair it."

I feel like Arthur Dent trying to get his house demolition plans.

 

[Doc Zero]

@TallerThanPedroia I feel like you and I have both gotten very used to the LG hold music in the last few weeks.

 

[NortheasternPJ]

Apart from how that's not really practical for me (he works like 1pm-5pm four days a week, and is far away, and I'd probably break the TV trying to get it there, etc.), he's not actually on LG's list. He was just recommended by the one other guy to take my phone call.

I wrote to a guy in Leominster who is on the list (I'm in Somerville). He wrote back: "out ill and retired." Extremely unimpressed with LG here.

My CC company did respond but said I need to send them "a copy of a diagnostic form from an authorized service center stating what is wrong with the product and whether it is cost effective to repair it."

I feel like Arthur Dent trying to get his house demolition plans.

Welcome to what I ran into. I called the authorized ones and most laughed and said there’s no point and not worth their time and wouldn’t even create a bill. Yeah no one repairs tvs anymore was what they all said.

This is the same thing I ran into with our Samsung Refrigerator. There’s no one to fix it. Next time I’m gong to a local shop with support. We’ve had it 10 years and it’s been great but when we ran into an issue, I ended up fixing myself, no one wanted to touch it.

 

[TallerThanPedroia]

Welcome to what I ran into. I called the authorized ones and most laughed and said there’s no point and not worth their time and wouldn’t even create a bill. Yeah no one repairs tvs anymore was what they all said.

This is the same thing I ran into with our Samsung Refrigerator. There’s no one to fix it. Next time I’m gong to a local shop with support. We’ve had it 10 years and it’s been great but when we ran into an issue, I ended up fixing myself, no one wanted to touch it.

Did you ever get anything from Chase?

 

[TallerThanPedroia]

Curious if you guys having these LGs fail on you are pluging them directly into a wall outlet or if you are running them through some kind of good surge protector and/or AVR UPS?

And @TallerThanPedroia, Sony has been back in the TV business for more than a few years and for consumer as well as commercial. I have two I think are at least four years old and three years old respectively. My main 65" (not OLED) has a terrific picture. It is on a very good surge and noise suppressor which itself is plugged into a sine wave AVR UPS. Bad electricity is the number one killer of any electronic device but especially large TVs. I would never plug a TV directly into a wall outlet. They always are at minimum using a better surge protector.

All of my mid-high end AVR gear is also powered in the same manner as the 65": surge, noise filter, sine wave AVR UPS. I strongly recommend it. The last two towns I have lived in have crappy, noisy, subject to surge and sag electrical service, not to mention lightning threat. I have had zero electronics failures in more than 16 years taking this approach.

The TV and related stuff are plugged into this Belkin surge protector:

https://www.belkin.com/12-outlet-surge-protector-with-phonecoax-protection-8-ft.-cord/P-BE112230-08.html


If someone has a rec for a better one, please please.

My desktop computer is plugged into this one:

https://www.memory4less.com/belkin-surge-protection-suppressor-f9g1032-10gy-dl

 

[TallerThanPedroia]

Update!

I called my credit card company's benefit services and they said oh, sorry, we didn't mean to imply that you needed to use an LG-certified repair person. I had been about to load this thing in my car and drive it an hour to Bellingham. Instead they gave me the number of a guy in Belmont, and he came over this morning and had repaired the TV in less than 30 minutes. $436 for parts and labor.

But...... I think he put in a C1 CPU not a CX CPU? Is that going to make my TV explode? I noticed because the settings menus are all different.

 

[Max Power]

Your credit card company had a list of repair guys for LG TVs? That's suprising.

I have a BX and all of these threads about LGs failing are a little concerning. I'm kind of happy I went with the lower end model instead of spending a couple hundred more for a C series that's just as likely to stop working.

 

[cgori]

The TV and related stuff are plugged into this Belkin surge protector:

https://www.belkin.com/12-outlet-surge-protector-with-phonecoax-protection-8-ft.-cord/P-BE112230-08.html


If someone has a rec for a better one, please please.

My desktop computer is plugged into this one:

https://www.memory4less.com/belkin-surge-protection-suppressor-f9g1032-10gy-dl

I thought I replied to this but then had to head to the airport. For really expensive devices, something like this is ~probably better:
View: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000YYVLAK/


Or some kind of full-sine-wave UPS as LoweTek mentioned above (I actually don't use one myself, but it's not a bad idea at all).

 

[TallerThanPedroia]

Your credit card company had a list of repair guys for LG TVs? That's suprising.

I have a BX and all of these threads about LGs failing are a little concerning. I'm kind of happy I went with the lower end model instead of spending a couple hundred more for a C series that's just as likely to stop working.

No, LG had a list of people they gave me. Everyone on the list either said no, didn't reply, or was an hour away and I had to take my TV to them.

The credit card company ultimately said I could get it fixed anywhere, and they gave me someone in Belmont and another in Dorchester. I called the Belmont guy yesterday first because he was closer and now I have a functioning TV.

Should have just cut LG out of the process altogether, but now I know.

The repair guy today didn't think LGs were any worse than other TVs at failing, btw. He said he likes Samsung because they're easiest to fix but otherwise, they can all fail. And he said LGs have the best image. He also said he gets a lot of people who are covered under their credit cards.

 

[LoweTek]

Or some kind of full-sine-wave UPS as LoweTek mentioned above (I actually don't use one myself, but it's not a bad idea at all).

Sine Wave UPS I use for expensive electronics. You can select the VA level you prefer to lower the price.

 

[cgori]

Sine Wave UPS I use for expensive electronics. You can select the VA level you prefer to lower the price.

Heh, I have the older non-sine-wave version of this for my desktop rig. I'm just waiting for the (2nd? 3rd?) battery to wear out in it before I replace it with the sine wave one. They're quite good.

 

[NortheasternPJ]

Update!

I called my credit card company's benefit services and they said oh, sorry, we didn't mean to imply that you needed to use an LG-certified repair person. I had been about to load this thing in my car and drive it an hour to Bellingham. Instead they gave me the number of a guy in Belmont, and he came over this morning and had repaired the TV in less than 30 minutes. $436 for parts and labor.

But...... I think he put in a C1 CPU not a CX CPU? Is that going to make my TV explode? I noticed because the settings menus are all different.

Can you PM his contact info? What was the root cause? Blown board?

 

[Tangled Up In Red]

Dumb question, but if I get a 4k tv, I presumably need to upgrade my Chromecasts to the 4k version to maximize benefit?
Any favorite, basic 60" 4k du jour right now (reading back through the thread, tech and deals change so frequently)...

 

[TallerThanPedroia]

Can you PM his contact info? What was the root cause? Blown board?

It was the CPU.

DM incoming

 

[cgori]

Dumb question, but if I get a 4k tv, I presumably need to upgrade my Chromecasts to the 4k version to maximize benefit?
Any favorite, basic 60" 4k du jour right now (reading back through the thread, tech and deals change so frequently)...

Yes, all the source devices (Chromecast/AppleTV/blu-ray player/whatever) need to output 4k signal to use the 4k display. You might also have to replace the HDMI cables to get 4k to pass.