I think this is the point, the fact it's serious enough to miss a Yankee start tells you everything between the lines you need to know.
Rebirth of a Sale, man
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Wonder if NY being without Judge and Sanchez is factoring into their thinking at all. Might be a situation where they can get away with erring on the side of caution, with NY being minus 2 of their right handed power bats.
if you can end the division early and spend September setting up for the World Series run, that would be awfully nice.
the decision's been made, moving on...
The fact that a competitor like Sale agreed to miss a start tells you all you need to know. This weekend’s opponent has fuck-all to do with anything.
The lack of an MRI is somewhat reassuring.
No way the luxury is taken at the start of a series against the Yankees. If it's truly just a breather, you wait until the following week to do it.
you basically say that all the time to me.
but yes, I'm off for now.
Him not getting an MRI is all you need to know. This is the luxury of having a 6 game lead at this point, better to play it safe.
Why wouldn't you bring the steaks to the safe room? Although you're going to have to feed a shitload of people there.
I'm bothered by the lack of a MRI. Its like not going to get an EKG while experiencing chest pains and shortness of breath for fear you may find your having a heart attack. Lets just Ass U Me its indigestion and hope you wake up tomorrow
Frankly, with the lead we have over the Yankees him missing a stressful start against them might be a good thing. If its only indigestion that is
Frankly, with the lead we have over the Yankees him missing a stressful start against them might be a good thing. If its only indigestion that is
I think it's extremely reassuring. If there was any genuine concern at all, he'd be getting an MRI.
Do you mean "reassuring" in the same sense that Lynyrd Skynyrd's pilot "reassured" the band that the Convair 240 didn't need to be checked for any potential mechanical issues?
Bothered by lack of MRI? Folks, we’ve reached peak message boarding in this thread.
Agreed. MRIs show all kinds of clinically irrelevant abnormalities, especially in someone who has pitched his whole life. If the history and physical are consistent with routine shoulder tendonitis then you just give him the rest and go from there.
One more start, in early August, when the Sox are in control of the division. I don't think even Farrell would pull that.
After X and Devers went out for the season, can you blame them?
Yup, this. They’ve been very careful with injuries (a welcome change) and they’re in the position in the standings to be even more so with their ace.
I think the guys on the NESN pregame said “Nip this in the bud” 647 times. I’m with the line of thought that missing a start against NY isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
$10 well earned.
We always want the team to do MRIs without even knowing what MRIs are supposed to do or show. Thanks for this.
Perhaps the scene in Airplane, where they show the "don't panic" sign or Kevin Bacon going "remain calm" would be appropriate here.
I was going to post “if I owned a MLB team, I’d have my pitchers get MRI’s after every start”, but DRS talked me out of it.
Given that they’ve been super cautious with every injury this year, I’m not going to panic unless he can’t make his start once he comes off the DL or of he leaves it early.
This a a good sign that they’re taking this course with the MFYs coming to town. The player’s health is more important than any one series, regardless of the opponent.
This a a good sign that they’re taking this course with the MFYs coming to town. The player’s health is more important than any one series, regardless of the opponent.
Those extra pitches last year to get 300 k’s is the damn gift that keeps on giving. Since we can’t fire Farrell now, I suggest we fire Cora.
Edit: I think we’re going to see a few DL’s as a precaution, especially until rosters expand.
Edit: I think we’re going to see a few DL’s as a precaution, especially until rosters expand.
Just curious but why no MRI? It’d not lead to more damage - is it simply because it can show so much other issues that aren’t causing the current soreness?
So - this thread seems evenly spread between the "assume the worst in the hope of being pleasantly surprised that the sky hasn't fallen" people and those taking the rosy "nothing to see here, just precautionary" approach, thereby leaving themselves open to being crushed like the petals of a tulip under the boots of an advancing storm trooper. As for me - I'm firmly in the camp of those who believe that "minor surgery" and "mild coronaries" are events that happen to other people. This is serious - you don't sit your ace on the DL unless there is a real concern and something out of the ordinary is in play. I await news that the sky isn't falling while crouching under the nearest bridge abutment.
If we can rest Sale and find a way to split the series that would be outstanding. Yanks smell blood in the water, they probably feel a lot of pressure to take at least 3 out of 4 now especially with no Sale and with their favorite pinata pitching on Sunday.
Split the series and move on.
Split the series and move on.
I am panicking! So soon after I started paying attention. I am getting PTSD of Pedro's shoulder back when I was 11 and my happiness actually rode on the fortunes of the Red Sox.
It can be a real concern and something out of the ordinary while still being something that can be 100% resolved with a week of rest on the DL.
Yes, that's what the shelves of survival food is for. Fear not, I'm going to eat this straight of the grill, Can't waste prime cut cow.
Did anyone, other than Sale, have an inkling this nut punch was coming? Sale to the DL and Pom on the mound. Yikes!
What's the All Star Game got to do with anything? He threw about 10 pitches. He would normally throw more pitches than that on his regular throw day. I hate people who jump to faulty conclusions based on no evidence.
If it's purely to give him extra rest, and the team is still up five games when his next turn comes, do you skip him again? I mean, he 'tired' in September/the ALDS last year, if the goal is to win the World Series, that's going to mean several more starts than he made last year, so skipping one now would still mean a net increase by the end of the playoffs. I just don't really buy the idea that skipping a start or two for extra rest at this stage of the season makes that much difference, especially since there are plenty of awesome pitching starts in the postseason. Is there any actual evidence out there that guys who have pitched 7-15 fewer innings over an entire season perform meaningfully better in the playoffs?
I say all that not because I think we need to panic, but rather to say that I can't believe there is a silver lining. If there is any real injury, even a mild one, then it is worse than if he were completely healthy and made one extra start in August, right? Don't need to assume that the season is ruined, but if this is a ruse to get him one day's rest, I can't imagine it will pay dividends, and if it isn't, then our best pitcher is showing some abnormal wear and tear which is a bad thing.
I say all that not because I think we need to panic, but rather to say that I can't believe there is a silver lining. If there is any real injury, even a mild one, then it is worse than if he were completely healthy and made one extra start in August, right? Don't need to assume that the season is ruined, but if this is a ruse to get him one day's rest, I can't imagine it will pay dividends, and if it isn't, then our best pitcher is showing some abnormal wear and tear which is a bad thing.
So your take is that the team is lying to the media and fans?
You sit your ace (arguably the single most important player to the team’s championship hopes) if he says he’s more sore than normal and you’re 42 games over .500 on the last day of July. Just missing the obligatory “I had shoulder inflammation when I was tee ball...” post to complete my bingo card. My goodness.
Meanwhile JA Happ was just hospitalized for hand, foot, and mouth disease and may miss Saturday's start.
I don't think they're taking it lightly at all. When the pitcher that's the linchpin of the season is sore in late July, he sits. Why does it matter who they're playing? It's one game.
Like Tito said, start thinking like fans, soon you're sitting with them.
They brought him along slowly in spring training and limited his pitch count all season with the goal of keeping him healthy and effective into the playoffs. To scrap that now and throw him out there when his shoulder is bothering him a bit would be incredibly foolish. Give him extra time to get right and pick things up again next start.