Rafael Devers, JD Martinez and the future at the corners

BaseballJones

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Devers' total bases pace (using his whole year, not just the part of the season when he erupted): 386. Some great Red Sox players and their best TB seasons (with Boston)....

Jim Rice - 406 (1978) - 25 hr, 15 3b (!), 46 hr
David Ortiz - 363 (2005) - 40 2b, 1 3b, 47 hr
Manny Ramirez - 348 (2004) - 44 2b, 0 3b, 43 hr
Nomar Garciaparra - 365 (1997) - 44 2b, 11 3b, 30 hr
Carl Yastrzemski - 360 (1967) - 31 2b, 4 3b, 44 hr
Ted Williams - 368 (1949) - 39 2b, 3 3b, 43 hr
Jimmie Foxx - 398 (1938) - 33 2b, 9 3b, 50 hr
Mookie Betts - 359 (2016) - 42 2b, 5 3b, 31 hr
Rafael Devers (pace) - 386 - 59 2b, 4 3b, 35 hr

Jim Rice also had a couple other monster TB seasons (382 in 1977 and 369 in 1979). But Devers is on pace for the third highest TB season in Red Sox history, behind Rice's 406 and Foxx's 398.
 

Jed Zeppelin

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But he leads the league in CS. He's a bum.

Was that really his comp? Seems odd. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly but the hype train was on top of Devers right out of the gate and many were predicting him to be a middle of the order bat with 30+ HR potential. It was his glove that was in question. He was widely considered the best left handed bat available in the international draft that year. Not that it's an insult to be compared to Robinson Cano.
Here is his original prospect thread where that was the swing comp being thrown around: https://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/rafael-devers.2108/

At the time, Cano was coming off four straight years of ~30 HR, top 6 MVP finishes, Silver Sluggers and ~.900 OPS so pretty much near the peak of what you'd ever reasonably project for a 16 year old international signee.
 

Al Zarilla

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Devers' total bases pace (using his whole year, not just the part of the season when he erupted): 386. Some great Red Sox players and their best TB seasons (with Boston)....

Jim Rice - 406 (1978) - 25 hr, 15 3b (!), 46 hr
David Ortiz - 363 (2005) - 40 2b, 1 3b, 47 hr
Manny Ramirez - 348 (2004) - 44 2b, 0 3b, 43 hr
Nomar Garciaparra - 365 (1997) - 44 2b, 11 3b, 30 hr
Carl Yastrzemski - 360 (1967) - 31 2b, 4 3b, 44 hr
Ted Williams - 368 (1949) - 39 2b, 3 3b, 43 hr
Jimmie Foxx - 398 (1938) - 33 2b, 9 3b, 50 hr
Mookie Betts - 359 (2016) - 42 2b, 5 3b, 31 hr
Rafael Devers (pace) - 386 - 59 2b, 4 3b, 35 hr

Jim Rice also had a couple other monster TB seasons (382 in 1977 and 369 in 1979). But Devers is on pace for the third highest TB season in Red Sox history, behind Rice's 406 and Foxx's 398.
I know you said great Red Sox, but Jacoby Ellsbury 364 TB in 2011. Hey, key contributor to 2 World Series titles; he was really really good if not great.
 

Sandy Leon Trotsky

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Devers has been in pretty big slump the past 2 weeks. JDM has been decent at the dish... but he's an absolute butcher in the field. Why Cora continues to play him in RF at Fenway is beyond me. The best we can say at this point is that he (Cora) is trying to advertise to all NL teams that they DO NOT want him on their roster next season. Is he trying to remove a market for JDM?
 

sean1562

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yea i remember when he was a FA there was a lot of talk by Boras that defensive metrics exaggerated how bad he is in the field. But man he is absolutely terrible out there. Maybe have him take some reps at 1b? the guy is not an outfielder
 

Savin Hillbilly

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The wrong side of the bridge....
He wasn't nearly as bad last year, either by the eye test or the numbers. Either age is catching up with him, he's been hobbled by minor injuries, or something. But it certainly seems like his OF playing days should be over, except in NL parks and maybe occasional other road games.