PTBNLs named in Benintendi/Cordero trade

EnochRoot

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Well, one of the things that is “known” about Beni is that he had a historically atrocious season last year and then was shut down. Which, sure, could be an aberration but it has to be factored in.
He was off to a slow start and then janked a muscle in his rib cage so they shut him down (they were out of it anyway).
 

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Well, one of the things that is “known” about Beni is that he had a historically atrocious season last year and then was shut down. Which, sure, could be an aberration but it has to be factored in.
His "season" last year was 14 games. He was awful, but having a horrible 14-game stretch happens to a lot of guys. Those things get magnified when they happen to start a season -- like Trot Nixon in 1998 and Dustin Pedroia in 2007.
 

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Anyway as jon abbey has said there must be more to this deal because it makes no sense that the Mets are getting the Royals’ #8 prospect in exchange for their #24 prospect.
 

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From 2018-19, Cordero played in just 49 major-league games as multiple injuries (forearm, elbow, quad) and a hamate injury in 2020.

In 2017, Cordero recorded the fourth-fastest sprint speed in the majors behind Billy Hamilton, Byron Buxton, and Bradley Zimmer.

In 2017 at AAA, Cordero slashed .326/.369/.603 with 17 home runs, 21 doubles and 64 RBIs to go along with 18 triples in 93 games that season.
 

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He also wasn’t very good in 2019 either with an ops-plus of 100.
His "not very good" 2019 was still worth 2 fWAR, which is 2-3x what Cordero's career has been worth. He was still a quality major league starter.

(That said, if people keep posting videos of him hitting bombs, I could fall irrationally in love the guy the same way I did Wily Mo. I'm a sucker for a power prospect.)
 

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Well, one of the things that is “known” about Beni is that he had a historically atrocious season last year and then was shut down. Which, sure, could be an aberration but it has to be factored in.
He was off to a slow start and then janked a muscle in his rib cage so they shut him down (they were out of it anyway).
It's not just the 2020 version — who knows what was happening there. If we get two more years of Benintendi like his 2019, and he's confined to LF, and he's a bad fit for the ballpark because he hits a ton of deep-but-not-that-deep balls to RF, and he hasn't been very good against lefties for awhile now... Sooner or later you wonder if 2018 was a career year for him.

I think people aren't considering the real downside risks of keeping Benintendi. If he starts slow in 2021, he becomes untradable, and at his salary, we suddenly have a non-tender candidate on our hands.
 

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His "not very good" 2019 was still worth 2 fWAR, which is 2-3x what Cordero's career has been worth. He was still a quality major league starter.

(That said, if people keep posting videos of him hitting bombs, I could fall irrationally in love the guy the same way I did Wily Mo. I'm a sucker for a power prospect.)
They are obviously betting on what Cordero can become with better health and more playing time. Benintendi sadly hasn’t been able to build on his early success and is getting more expensive.
 

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While the dust has not yet settled, I would prefer to be the team ending up with Benintendi at this point.
 

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Really hoping J.D. Davis is in the deal and coming our way. His bat has always made sense here and he’s squeezed out of the infield situation in New York.
 

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From 2018-19, Cordero played in just 49 major-league games as multiple injuries (forearm, elbow, quad) and a hamate injury in 2020.

In 2017, Cordero recorded the fourth-fastest sprint speed in the majors behind Billy Hamilton, Byron Buxton, and Bradley Zimmer.

In 2017 at AAA, Cordero slashed .326/.369/.603 with 17 home runs, 21 doubles and 64 RBIs to go along with 18 triples in 93 games that season.
Speed, power, and injuries in CF, spells J-a-c-o-b-y.
 

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I'm a Beni fan and was rooting for a bounce back, but Cordero does make sense as a Renfroe platoon mate. I think at worst its a lateral move in LF and you gain a solid SP prospect and save some money. They still need a CFer.
 

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In 2017 at AAA, Cordero slashed .326/.369/.603 with 17 home runs, 21 doubles and 64 RBIs to go along with 18 triples in 93 games that season.
Just to add a little context to these extremely impressive numbers: they were put up in the hitter friendly PCL. Cordero was outhit by the older but very mediocre Jabari Blash.

I'm still scarred by the Lancaster JetHawks.
 

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The destruction of a great team continues. We fire a guy to hire a guy who will build us up to be the Dodgers. Problem is we were already the Dodgers at the major league level (and possibly not near as bad as we like to think in the minors). Meanwhile Bloom is cobbling together a Rays style roster with a top three payroll. The Smart Guys must really be proud.
 

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Before this deal and before what appears to be the signing of this Japanese reliever, how far below the tax threshold were we?
 

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The destruction of a great team continues. We fire a guy to hire a guy who will build us up to be the Dodgers. Problem is we were already the Dodgers at the major league level (and possibly not near as bad as we like to think in the minors). Meanwhile Bloom is cobbling together a Rays style roster with a top three payroll. The Smart Guys must really be proud.
Our pitching wasn't in the same universe in 2019 or 2020 as the LA Dodgers.
We've been through roster turnover between each world series. I trust a guy who has been a higher up with the Rays to lead this. He's keeping his power dry for the right time - which will be in the next 1-2 years.
Patience.
 

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The destruction of a great team continues. We fire a guy to hire a guy who will build us up to be the Dodgers. Problem is we were already the Dodgers at the major league level (and possibly not near as bad as we like to think in the minors). Meanwhile Bloom is cobbling together a Rays style roster with a top three payroll. The Smart Guys must really be proud.
Huh? They tried the “run it back” strategy in 2019 and it was an utter disaster that set the team back years.
 

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3 PTBNL? ... Is that because of roster numbers?
It’s pretty strange for a February trade, maybe they’re just trying to notify the players directly first. Or it could be a 40 man thing, BOS can put Sale on the 60 day IL next week and open a spot.
 

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The destruction of a great team continues. We fire a guy to hire a guy who will build us up to be the Dodgers. Problem is we were already the Dodgers at the major league level (and possibly not near as bad as we like to think in the minors). Meanwhile Bloom is cobbling together a Rays style roster with a top three payroll. The Smart Guys must really be proud.
The Dodgers’ Opening Day rotation is likely to exclude two of Tony Gonsolin, Dustin May, and Julio Urias. The Red Sox’ Opening Day rotation is unlikely to include a pitcher better than any of those three. The two organizations are not comparable and have not been for more than just a couple years.
 

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The Dodgers’ Opening Day rotation is likely to exclude two of Tony Gonsolin, Dustin May, and Julio Urias. The Red Sox’ Opening Day rotation is unlikely to include a pitcher better than any of those three. The two organizations are not comparable and have not been for more than just a couple years.
while I don't disagree with you, I'd take ERod over all of those right now.
 

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The destruction of a great team continues. We fire a guy to hire a guy who will build us up to be the Dodgers. Problem is we were already the Dodgers at the major league level (and possibly not near as bad as we like to think in the minors). Meanwhile Bloom is cobbling together a Rays style roster with a top three payroll. The Smart Guys must really be proud.
Or Bloom made a convincing case that Benintendi is *not* going to be better than he was in 2019, and in fact will be even worse in 2021 so let's get something for him while we can.
Too bad we can't get a successful ownership group around here.
 

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Maybe I'm an optimist, but 4 lottery tickets and Franchy for Beni seems pretty reasonable for a team that is rebuilding its minor leagues.
 

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Given the entirety of the trade, I have to think the PTBNL player pool from the Mets is significant.