I'm jumping on him here because he always has a new negative narrative. Some part of the team just isn't good enough to get it done, lately it's been the bullpen with him, now it's "they haven't had a real test."
Yeah, and so we look at how they perform against other top teams in the regular season to see what we can learn, which I did. That's the substance of this conversation.
Ah OK, well you guys know each other way better than I do.
Playoffs are a different animal. Managed differently, different rosters, different everything. The regular season is about consistency, the playoffs the foot is always on the gas.
There was more than one work stoppage canceled World Series?It'll come to you... I mean, there's a chance.
If they have to play 10 of 13 on the road against HOU and NYY we should be worried.
Agree. We can learn something from the last couple days, but can't get carried away.
I certainly wasn't saying that we knew nothing about the Red Sox beforehand. Everybody that knows anything about baseball knows that the Red Sox are a great team. I was never questioning that and no one should. However, I place more importance on games against the other playoff teams as anyone should. I don't think there is much separation at all between the AL playoff teams and any of them can beat the Red Sox in a short series.
When I say something negative about a part of the team such as the pen, it is with a look towards the playoffs. It is within reason to question whether their bullpen will hold up in the playoffs.
Awesome. They’re like 437 games over .500. I think they passed all tests so far.
No, they're 8-5 against the MFYs, 2-2 vs CLE and HOU and 2-4 against the As. I'm not saying this tells you everything you need to know but pretending they've slaughtered them all is ridiculous.
Good teams generally don't "slaughter" good teams.
Yep, and there was no way the Pats could win a Super Bowl after getting beat by 31 points by the Bills.
I don’t know how much series in April, where they’d just lost their hottest hitter are predictive of what might happen in October. I’d guess very little. One of those Oakland games featured a guy throwing a no hitter opposite Sale. Is that likely to happen in the playoffs?
So you are arguing that the larger sample is the only useful information or just that it's more useful than a handful of games against Cleveland? Either is supportable and we are well into the realm of speculation. But you won't convince me that the last few days weren't a bit more interesting than another wipeout of the Blue Jays.
Yeah, but this reinforces my interest in the Cleveland games. We hear people say all the time that you don't really know what your team is for a few months. Well, we definitely know what our team is, and although 3/5ths of the rotation is missing, this is otherwise the playoff squad. And Cleveland had all of theirs. So sure, the losses to Oakland are just a footnote, but this week has been useful and frankly encouraging.
Once the playoffs start, all the previous information means nil and it's essentially a coin flip. Out of all the major sports, baseball is probably the least likely to have the best team win the championship. I don't really follow the NHL but it's probably close.
The larger sample size IS useful information.
Was wondering what the hell happened.... yeah.... not great. This team is really starting to limp into the postseason
I would think if hitting was a problem pitching would be more so given its his left wrist. If thats not the case then just concede the outs snd dont swing or bunt when needed
Generally correct but after 2 short starts an extra reliever for those 2 days may not be a horrible idea.
I assumed gedman211 wasn't talking about difficulty in performing the action so much as the reinjury risk. It's true that it's the right (i.e. correct) wrist as far as that goes--it would be a lot worse if he were a RHH--but I agree that this is one more reason why skipping a start might be a good idea unless he miraculously feels fine by Monday.
Pete Abe’s first sentence there made my heart sink. Then, much better. Next time, get the good news up front!
Yeah, I initially read that and thought "oh well, it was nice to dream about him opting out so we would have more money for Sale/Mookie/Xander/JBJ (maybe). But then I thought about how INCREDIBLY STUPID it would be to be talking to a New England media outlet in the midst of a dominant regular season and say "yeah, this has been great and all, but I'm still keeping my options open." He would get butchered, absolutely destroyed by every Red Sox fan. I know Price isn't the mose media-savvy player, but he's not a moron.
He deserves a ton of credit for fixing himself and being legitimately awesome the past couple months.
I dont disagree with you . I have always attached importance to IP.
Given the situation I just feel better with Price in a game 1. Especially because I think Sale has the potential to put much more stress on the bullpen in game 1. I guess at the end of the day though, the fact it's even plausible is a testament to Price's performance.
