Post Season Poll

Will the Sox make the post-season?

  • Yes

    Votes: 239 63.7%
  • No

    Votes: 134 35.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 2 0.5%

  • Total voters
    375

Rovin Romine

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SATURDAY October 2 = 2 games to go.

1) Sox Win. Also called, doing the necessary.

Best possible record is still 92 wins.
2 of 2 they control their destiny: they can either stand alone in the WC 1 spot, tie with NYY for WC1, or stand alone in the WC2 spot (with NYY in WC1).​
1 of 2 means a potential tie breaker with NYY/TOR/SEA, but will not automatically eliminate them.​
0-2 is the most volatile. They can still be completely eliminated if the all other teams all go 2-0. But it is also possible all the other teams will go 0-2, leaving the 90 wins as a non-tied WC slot.​

Upcoming games are @WSN, @WSN.

2) NYY lost. Also called justice. Or the sound of a rat trap snapping shut.

NYY's best possible record is now at 93 wins.
2 of 2 controls their destiny with an untied WC 1 spot.​
1 of 2 means they may face a tie for a spot with BOS.​
0 of 2 means they're (at worst) one behind BOS and SEA and out, alone in the WC2 spot, or tied with tied with one of the 91 possible-win teams (BOS, TOR and SEA).​

Upcoming games are: TBR, TBR. This is the hardest schedule by far. TBR would certainly like to be a 100 win club.

3) TOR won. Also called the Baltimore/Baltiless effect.

TOR max win total is still 91.
2 of 2 does not guarantee a post-season berth if BOS/NYY makes it to 92 wins.​
Moreover, at season's end 91 win spot can be held by any of BOS/SEA/NYY.​
1 of 2 means, at best, potential tie with one (or more) of BOS/SEA for the WC2 spot.​
0 of 2 means they are completely eliminated, with no tiebreaker.​

Upcoming games are: BAL, BAL.


4) SEA lost. Also called - who watches those games, so who knows what really happened out there.

Seattle's best possible record is now 91 wins.
Sea TOR.​

Upcoming games are: LAA, LAA.
 

Archer1979

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Mariners lose to Angels. Red Sox now control their WC destiny. Win out, and they're in.

Yup. If the Sox go 2 - 0, they have the 2nd wild card spot locked and no tie-breaker game. If NY goes 0 - 2, they travel to Fenway for the WC game.

I'll leave the tie-breaking scenarios for that thread, but if NY goes 0 - 2, they drop into the tie-breaking games if either Seattle or Toronto go 2 - 0 as well.

As always, root for the Sox each game. Root against NY.
 

bosockboy

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Yup. If the Sox go 2 - 0, they have the 2nd wild card spot locked and no tie-breaker game. If NY goes 0 - 2, they travel to Fenway for the WC game.

I'll leave the tie-breaking scenarios for that thread, but if NY goes 0 - 2, they drop into the tie-breaking games if either Seattle or Toronto go 2 - 0 as well.

As always, root for the Sox each game. Root against NY.
Sox 2-0, Nyy 1-1 they go to Fenway. Even more possible.
 

dynomite

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Sox 2-0, Nyy 1-1 they go to Fenway. Even more possible.
True, but — while unlikely — my ideal scenario today is Sox win, Mariners & Jays lose clinching at least one Wild Card.

Then the question is do you rest Sale tomorrow and try to steal that last win with Perez or Seabold? Would you rather have a rested Sale & Eovaldi available for Tuesday than play at Fenway with Sale unavailable?
 

bosockboy

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True, but — while unlikely — my ideal scenario today is Sox win, Mariners & Jays lose clinching at least one Wild Card.

Then the question is do you rest Sale tomorrow and try to steal that last win with Perez or Seabold? Would you rather have a rested Sale & Eovaldi available for Tuesday than play at Fenway with Sale unavailable?
With the state of our bullpen you rest Sale. I’m not sure home field helps us really against them anyway.
 

dynomite

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With the state of our bullpen you rest Sale. I’m not sure home field helps us really against them anyway.
I think that’s right. And it’s not like it’s inconceivable that the Sox could still beat the Nats with Perez/Seabold and the lineup.

Again, I find it unlikely that both the Mariners and Jays will lose so this is likely moot, but still.
 

AB in DC

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A more interesting question is if the Sox win tonight and at least one of TOR/SEA also win. Then there's an argument to try and steal game 162 with Perez/? and hold Sale back for tiebreaker game as necessary, with Eovaldi lined up for the WC.

Otherwise there's a risk of losing with Sale on Sunday, leaving Eovaldi for the tiebreaker, then having to count on Pivetta for the WC game.

Though Pivetta pitched better than Eovaldi against the Yanks last week so maybe that's not so bad.
 

cantor44

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A more interesting question is if the Sox win tonight and at least one of TOR/SEA also win. Then there's an argument to try and steal game 162 with Perez/? and hold Sale back for tiebreaker game as necessary, with Eovaldi lined up for the WC.

Otherwise there's a risk of losing with Sale on Sunday, leaving Eovaldi for the tiebreaker, then having to count on Pivetta for the WC game.

Though Pivetta pitched better than Eovaldi against the Yanks last week so maybe that's not so bad.
It seems to me you want to avoid TWO play-in games at all costs. If you're gonna pitch Sale, pitch him in 162 and try to make 163 unnecessary, and go straight to WC. The only way that tomorrow's game won't matter is if Sox win today and Seattle and Jays both lose. If you don't need to win 162 to get in, rest Sale. If you do it need to get it, pitch him. But you're right there is a risk there ...
 
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Rovin Romine

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SUNDAY October 3 = 1 game to go.

1) Sox Win. Best possible record is still 92 wins. @WSN.

2) NYY lost. Best possible record is now 92 wins. TBR.

3) TOR won. Best possible record is still 91 wins. BAL.

4) SEA won. Best possible record is still 91 wins. LAA.

Instead of the team by team breakdown, today will end with the following possible outcomes.

- BOS and NYY taking the WC 1 berths.​
- BOS or NYY taking the WC 1 berth, with two or three teams of the BOS/NYY/TOR/SEA group playing off for the WC2 berth.​
- A four way tie.​

Either way BOS and NYY will see at least one more game after today. (That may be a tie-breaker or the WC game itself.)
 

cantor44

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It seems to me you want to avoid TWO play-in games at all costs. If you're gonna pitch Sale, pitch him in 162 and try to make 163 unnecessary, and go straight to WC. The only way that tomorrow's game won't matter is if Sox win today and Seattle and Jays both lose. If you don't need to win 162 to get in, rest Sale. If you do it need to get it, pitch him. But you're right there is a risk there ...
The three-way tie breaker for two spots is different that three-way for one spot. In either case, the Red Sox will have first pick of what spot they want. In the former they'd pick Designation A, hosting B at home- if they win they're in the WC, if they lose, the travel to team C for a second chance to get in. In the latter scenario, teams A and B play and the winner goes on to play team C, and the winner of that game gets the second WC spot. In this case Sox would choose C, so they only have to win 1 game to get in.