Drew Pomeranz to the DL with left biceps tendinitis. Brandon Workman to take his spot on the roster. Starter for Thursday unclear.
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Drew Pomeranz to the DL with left biceps tendinitis. Brandon Workman to take his spot on the roster. Starter for Thursday unclear.
Not surprised, given how long it's been taking him to get it together. Hopefully he doesn't have something more severe than just the tendonitis. I was looking forward to Pom getting his velocity back and coupling it with the nasty curve. Back to Johnson or Velazquez for at least one time through, and let's hope the ol' knuckleball experience is a good one this year.
Beeks isn't going to start tonight in AAA. He was originally scheduled to. Wonder if he'll get a look. Seems like the ideal spot for him to get his feet wet, given it would probably just be the one start and not against a juggernaut.
Edit: Just saw Beeks isn't scheduled until tomorrow after all so him not starting tonight doesn't mean anything.
Edit: Just saw Beeks isn't scheduled until tomorrow after all so him not starting tonight doesn't mean anything.
Abraham said on twitter that it won't be Sale, that info came directly from Cora.
I assume it will be Velazquez on Thursday and it's already been stated that Wright is expected to stay in the lineup.
I suppose it could be Beeks on Thursday, I wouldn't be against that.
Workman? Jeez, can't we do a little better than that? I know he's been better lately, but still....
I think they want an innings guy in case Wright can't go deep tonight/struggles in the weather and they want to save Velazquez.
If they go with Beeks instead then Workman would pretty much go right back down anyhow.
Plus Workman has been pretty damned good since his 0 inning 6 run debacle.
Only 16 hits and 2 walks with 30 k's in his last 25 innings.
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I am surprised it wasn't a position player. They are committed to keeping Lin in AAA I guess but what about...
...wait is Lin the only positional player on the 40 who is not either on the active roster or on the DL? That sure does limit flexibility.
...wait is Lin the only positional player on the 40 who is not either on the active roster or on the DL? That sure does limit flexibility.
Let's get Pomeranz healthy, and then he can either rejoin the rotation or take the David Price role from last postseason as a half-stretched-out Millerian relief ace as appropriate.
Amazingly that's correct. Amazing that the Sox are in that position not that you're right ERR.
There is no way he won't be back in the rotation in a contract year.
Having said that, I love giving Beeks a start this week.
If he doesn't get his velocity back to where it was last year and Wright is having a good year, the Red Sox will be in no rush to get him back in the rotation.
He doesn't get to make that decision and the way he's pitched, he doesn't have anyone else to blame. He'll get a shot in the rotation, I'm sure, but they're not bumping someone who is pitching well just so Pomeranz looks good as a free agent.
The timing of this DL stint is a little odd, because Pomeranz' velocity hit his season peak the last time out.
If he comes back as a reliever, he would be a high-value LHP with a great curve and a few more mph velocity on his fastball than he can sustain as a starter. He could also drop the pretense of throwing a cutter and changeup, which do him no favors.
If he comes back as a reliever, he would be a high-value LHP with a great curve and a few more mph velocity on his fastball than he can sustain as a starter. He could also drop the pretense of throwing a cutter and changeup, which do him no favors.
Here is an update on Pomeranz, but not a particularly happy one. From Soxprospects:
Syracuse Chiefs (WAS) 6, Pawtucket Red Sox 3
Drew Pomeranz struggled through 3 2/3 innings in his third rehab start with the PawSox as they were doubled up by the Chiefs. Pomeranz allowed three runs on four hits and a walk while striking out three. He has now allowed nine runs over 9 1/3 innings since coming back on July 2.
Syracuse Chiefs (WAS) 6, Pawtucket Red Sox 3
Drew Pomeranz struggled through 3 2/3 innings in his third rehab start with the PawSox as they were doubled up by the Chiefs. Pomeranz allowed three runs on four hits and a walk while striking out three. He has now allowed nine runs over 9 1/3 innings since coming back on July 2.
His velocity has been way down and his control erratic. Possible it’s just mechanics but he has the telltale signs of a serious injury.
You guys do know that you can find reports on the Pawsox and the rest of the farm teams thst are at least as complete right here on this board, right?
Seems like a wildly speculative conclusion to say that TJ surgery is ‘inevitable’ especially when his injury has been reported to be to his biceps.
Also, where do you get his velocity numbers for MiLB games?
What the hell are the Sox going to do with him? He can't get pushed into the rotation if he's pitching like this.... and really shouldn't even be called up. Does he actually have options remaining?
Which should allow him to slide back into the rotation (in Edro's spot) for one of the games against the Orioles, depending on how they setup the rotation coming out of the break. (I expect Sale to get a few days rest).......Sure would like for DP to be pitching better in AAA, but assuming a lengthy Edro abscence, the Sox need him to step up and they are going to have to give him a chance before the trade deadline.
If he needs another week so be it. The timing of this injury crisis is pretty fortuitous IMHO. 4 days off for the ASB, followed by series against the Tigers and O’s.
After that a 4-game home set against the Twins doesn’t scare me despite dropping the series in Minneapolis. Then one tough week (2H vs Phi and 4H vs NY with at least a day off before and after the NY series) and then another easy week @Tor and @Bal.
Or to put it another way, the next 40 games (which takes us to 9/2) comes against teams with an average record of 7 games under .500 with plenty of days off to boot.
After that a 4-game home set against the Twins doesn’t scare me despite dropping the series in Minneapolis. Then one tough week (2H vs Phi and 4H vs NY with at least a day off before and after the NY series) and then another easy week @Tor and @Bal.
Or to put it another way, the next 40 games (which takes us to 9/2) comes against teams with an average record of 7 games under .500 with plenty of days off to boot.
Not like me to be overconfident, but the Red Sox eat NL teams alive. MFY, that’s another story.
Pomeranz sharp tonight:
Allotted 90 pitches to work with Wednesday, Pomeranz needed just 69 pitches to get through his six sharp frames. When the bottom of the seventh inning began, Pomeranz went to the left-field bullpen and threw more pitches under the watchful eye of former Red Sox closer Keith Foulke. The 29-year old Pomeranz threw 45 of his 69 pitches for strikes — a 65% strike rate that exceeds his 2018 MLB strike rate (60%) and last year’s rate (62%), as well. The 2016 National League All-Star spun knuckle-curveballs on nearly half of his pitches, generating all five of his strikeouts (and seven of his nine swinging strikes) on his hook. Pomeranz mixed in roughly a half-dozen cutters and a couple changeups, as well.
Allotted 90 pitches to work with Wednesday, Pomeranz needed just 69 pitches to get through his six sharp frames. When the bottom of the seventh inning began, Pomeranz went to the left-field bullpen and threw more pitches under the watchful eye of former Red Sox closer Keith Foulke. The 29-year old Pomeranz threw 45 of his 69 pitches for strikes — a 65% strike rate that exceeds his 2018 MLB strike rate (60%) and last year’s rate (62%), as well. The 2016 National League All-Star spun knuckle-curveballs on nearly half of his pitches, generating all five of his strikeouts (and seven of his nine swinging strikes) on his hook. Pomeranz mixed in roughly a half-dozen cutters and a couple changeups, as well.
Full article this is from for those interested:
https://www.milb.com/pawtucket/news/pomeranz-carries-no-hitter-into-sixth-inning/c-286399396
I'm all for the full promotion at this point. He'd be scheduled to face a Machado-free Orioles team on the road- away from a hyper-critical Fenway fanbase ready and happy to hate him for any weakness. Perfect step from AAA.
No mention of velocity has me a bit less optimistic than I would otherwise be, but we sure need him with EdRo down for a month+
Someone on SoxProspects said 90. Had pinpoint control. Definitely a slippery slope at 90. His curve buys him a bit of slack.
Not much news but very good news for sure. I did NOT expect to see mention of Keith Foulke; i had no idea he was kicking around the system.
90's better than 89, I guess, but not super-encouraging. Thanks for the data point.
Pomeranz with pinpoint control? That sounds really great, but has never happened at any time in his career. He's been pretty steadily around a 3.5 BB/9 from his first year in Oakland.
Yeah, this surprised the hell out of me, in a good way.
Is Edro really out for a month+?
Hopefully Pom can fill in sooner rather than later.
We've heard the dreaded "optimistic he will pitch again this season," line so I think we are easily looking at least 6 weeks.