Pick 35: Where we certainly will find the future of Celtics Basketball

[chilidawg]

A place for all things NBA 2nd round. Who's out there that you like and think might be available?

Tankathon 31-40:
Jalen Wilson
Cidy Sissoko
Trace Jackson-Davis
Jaime Jaquez Jr.
Brandon Podziemski
Julian Phillips
DaRon Holmes
Kobe Brown
Terquavion Smith
Julian Strawther

 

[nighthob]

I like Strawther more than Podziemski. Julian Phillips, too. If Boston has to choose between the Julians I'm leaning Strawther, though Phillips has more upside. I'm actively praying that the foot injury causes Whitehead to float to Boston.

 

[benhogan]

Trace Jackson-Davis please, but doubt he gets to 35.

 

[Jimbodandy]

I love Whitehead. Also Jalen Wilson.

 

[Lose Remerswaal]

I would like Smith, for the first name. And not Brown, for the same reason.

 

[chilidawg]

Trace Jackson-Davis please, but doubt he gets to 35.

TJD is an interesting one, very productive player, can score, rebound pass and block shots. When I watched IU in the NCAA's though I thought that's the most slothful looking productive player I've seen. Maybe that energy goes way up in a reduced role.

Vecenie has a good rundown from the combine, which has become more of a 2nd round showcase with all the top players opting out. Olivier-Maxcence Prosper and Ben Sheppard are the two he highlighted as having the best showings, but I know nothing of either.

https://theathletic.com/4536345/2023/05/23/nba-draft-combine-takeaways-olivier-maxence-prosper/

I loved Sanogo in the tournament, just seemed like a guy who did everything right. Vecenie had this to say about him "There is some short-area quickness there, and he communicates extremely well and calls out coverages for his guards. He’s also incredibly physical and strong. He’s not a Drew Timme or Oscar Tshiebwe type who has no chance to defend at the NBA level." And also "Beyond that, Sanogo is kind of a butt-kicker on the inside. There’s not another way to phrase it. He’s tougher and more physical than you. He came in at just 6-7 1/4 without shoes, but he has an enormous near-7-3 wingspan and a 9-0 1/2 standing reach that will allow him to play center.

 

[Bunt4aTriple]

I would like Smith, for the first name. And not Brown, for the same reason.

I endorse this. When it comes to any professional draft, I'm like our HR rep filling out an NCAA bracket. I know nothing.

 

[benhogan]

TJD is an interesting one, very productive player, can score, rebound pass and block shots. When I watched IU in the NCAA's though I thought that's the most slothful looking productive player I've seen. Maybe that energy goes way up in a reduced role.

Vecenie has a good rundown from the combine, which has become more of a 2nd round showcase with all the top players opting out. Olivier-Maxcence Prosper and Ben Sheppard are the two he highlighted as having the best showings, but I know nothing of either.

https://theathletic.com/4536345/2023/05/23/nba-draft-combine-takeaways-olivier-maxence-prosper/

I loved Sanogo in the tournament, just seemed like a guy who did everything right. Vecenie had this to say about him "There is some short-area quickness there, and he communicates extremely well and calls out coverages for his guards. He’s also incredibly physical and strong. He’s not a Drew Timme or Oscar Tshiebwe type who has no chance to defend at the NBA level." And also "Beyond that, Sanogo is kind of a butt-kicker on the inside. There’s not another way to phrase it. He’s tougher and more physical than you. He came in at just 6-7 1/4 without shoes, but he has an enormous near-7-3 wingspan and a 9-0 1/2 standing reach that will allow him to play center.

I imagine Brad has a ton of "motor, off the court, attitude, etc" intelligence on TJD with all of his Indiana connections.

My bias for 2nd rounders is high-floor, decorated upperclassmen, that can potentially play an immediate bench role. The new CBA and Double Super MAX Jays will make filling out the bench via 2nds/G-League grads important.

The Celtics can play the development game with their overseas lottery tickets

 

[chilidawg]

Vecenie's pre combine Mock had everyone's favorite Bobi Klintman at 35. I'm in: "The 20-year-old Klintman is a still-developing prospect. As you just read, he knows that. He doesn’t have the kind of body of work most NBA prospects do at this stage for a potential top-40 pick. He averaged five points and four rebounds per game over the entirety of last season. But most players don’t possess the tools Klintman does. At 6-foot-10, he has legitimate guard skills. He can grab and go on the break and lead the offense. His feel for the game is outstanding. At youth levels in Sweden, including in last summer’s U20 European Championships, he showcased high-level passing ability, averaging 5.1 assists per game. He hit 36 percent of his 3s in his freshman season at Wake. The idea of Klintman is everything NBA teams are looking for in a future-facing prospect.

https://theathletic.com/4382121/2023/04/06/bobi-klintman-nba-draft/

 

[Cellar-Door]

I was keeping an eye on Bilal Coulibaly, but looks like he's rising into the mid-late 1st.

I'm intrigued by Tristan Vukčević if they aren't looking for impact this year (I assume they aren't), great shooting big, needs to get stronger and defend better but 20 and can stay at Partizan.

Prosper has some Jae Crowder vibes.

 

[Ale Xander]

I love Whitehead.

You can never have enough Securities Law experts in a winning organization

 

[benhogan]

https://theathletic.com/4536345/2023/05/23/nba-draft-combine-takeaways-olivier-maxence-prosper/

I loved Sanogo in the tournament, just seemed like a guy who did everything right. Vecenie had this to say about him "There is some short-area quickness there, and he communicates extremely well and calls out coverages for his guards. He’s also incredibly physical and strong. He’s not a Drew Timme or Oscar Tshiebwe type who has no chance to defend at the NBA level." And also "Beyond that, Sanogo is kind of a butt-kicker on the inside. There’s not another way to phrase it. He’s tougher and more physical than you. He came in at just 6-7 1/4 without shoes, but he has an enormous near-7-3 wingspan and a 9-0 1/2 standing reach that will allow him to play center.

agreed, Sanogo would also be very attractive as a 2nd/Undrafted rookie FA (if he tells teams to go away)

 

[Humphrey]

I would like Smith, for the first name. And not Brown, for the same reason.

And one headband on the team is enough, so I say no Jaime Jacquez.

 

[RedOctober3829]

Adama Sanogo would be a nice pickup as a bench big. He's started to step out and hit the 3 so that's a good sign. He'll come in, work his ass off, and be a good teammate. Great footwork and instincts in the post that allow him to get position to score easier than he probably should.

Jaime Jacquez would be a do-everything guard that I could get behind.

 

[SteveF]

Klintman is almost certainly going in the first round. He pulled out of the combine which is often an indication of some team promising to take him in exchange for not doing workouts/releasing medicals.

It's a pretty deep draft and there will probably be multiple future NBA rotation players on the board at 35. Hopefully the Celtics are lucky enough to snag one.

This list almost certainly means nothing, but it's content for the mill:

The known list of players to have worked out with the Celtics: (According to USA Today)

• Leaky Black, North Carolina
• Branden Carlson, Utah
• RayJ Dennis, Toledo
• Tosan Evbuomwan, Princeton
• Jaylen Forbes, Tulane
• Alex Fudge, Florida
• Taylor Funk, Utah State
• Coleman Hawkins, Illinois
• Andre Jackson Jr., UConn
• Dillon Jones, Weber State
• Taevion Kinsey, Marshall
• Chris Livingston, Kentucky
• Isaiah Miranda, NC State
• Omari Moore, San Jose State
• Landers Nolley II, Cincinnati
• Norchad Omier, Miami
• Clifford Omoruyi, Rutgers
• Drew Peterson, USC
• Craig Porter Jr., Wichita State
• Justin Powell, Washington State
• Jalen Slawson, Furman
• Terrence Shannon Jr., Illinois
• Mike Sharavjamts, Dayton
• Jake Stephens, Chattanooga
• Oscar Tshiebwe, Kentucky
• Jordan Walsh, Arkansas

 

[Lose Remerswaal]

The headline potential for the first guy, above, are limitless.

I am having trouble holding them in!

 

[TripleOT]

Isaiah Miranda is an interesting prospect, a 19 year old 7 foot beanpole with guard skills, who grew up 50 minutes south of TD Garden in Pawtucket RI. He was supposed to prep a year in CA, but ended up at NC State as a redshirt, with the coaches there claiming he wasn’t physically ready for ACC basketball. Probably a stretch at 35, but tremendous potential with proper strength and conditioning work. Good vertical for a 7’1” player, a dunking machine who can shoot the three with touch.

 

[chilidawg]

Givony's latest ESPN Mock:
31 Jacquez jr.
32 Jackson jr.
33 Jackson II
34 Phillips
35 Vukcevic
36 Sheppard
37 Saser
38 TJD
39 Walsh
40 Cissoko

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/37757403/2023-nba-mock-draft-post-combine-pro-day-impacts-draft-class

Tankathon:
31TJD
32 Jaquez Jr.
33 Cissoko
34 Jackson Jr.
35 Sasser
36 OM Prosper
37 Klintman
38 Jalen Wilson
39 T Smith
40 Strawther

A lot of the same names. ESPN has OMP going in the first, Klintman and Vukcevic lower. Sasser doesn't seem to make sense for the C's, but Klintman, OMP, and Vukcevic seem like fits. TJD might be the readiest to contribute.

 

[benhogan]

Isaiah Miranda is an interesting prospect, a 19 year old 7 foot beanpole with guard skills, who grew up 50 minutes south of TD Garden in Pawtucket RI. He was supposed to prep a year in CA, but ended up at NC State as a redshirt, with the coaches there claiming he wasn’t physically ready for ACC basketball. Probably a stretch at 35, but tremendous potential with proper strength and conditioning work. Good vertical for a 7’1” player, a dunking machine who can shoot the three with touch.

no projects please unless they plan on living in Europe for a few years

 

[PedrosRedGlove]

Kobe Brown looks interesting. Some similarities to Grant Williams: measurables and SEC production, Brown was 1st team All-SEC and SEC Scholar-Athlete of the Year this year. His junior & senior numbers are very comparable to what Grant did at Tennessee.

It seems like he might have more skill than Grant though, and especially intriguing is his 3 point improvement this year. He was under a 25% shooter his first 3 seasons at Missouri, then this year he shot .455 (51/112) on 3.3 attempts/game.

If that's at all real there's some upside, and he's a 23 year old senior and looks to fit the high floor, polished product criteria as well.

 

[TripleOT]

no projects please unless they plan on living in Europe for a few years

It’s doubtful that the Cs will be able to select a rotation ready rookie at 35, so taking a prospect with a high ceiling makes more sense to me than taking a player who might some day crack the back half of the rotation. It seems that Boston has that philosophy, with JDD and French JB. Since they already have a project PG and a project wing, a project big makes sense.

 

[CreedBratton]

As a Gonzaga fan, I want them to take Strawther, who I actually think should be rated a little bit higher, just like Nembhard last year. Could be another steal.

 

[BaseballJones]

How about Andre Jackson? Great size, elite athleticism, quality ball-handling and playmaking. He doesn't shoot well, but man the guy can lead a team and defend anything from 1-4.

 

[bosockboy]

Kobe Brown looks interesting. Some similarities to Grant Williams: measurables and SEC production, Brown was 1st team All-SEC and SEC Scholar-Athlete of the Year this year. His junior & senior numbers are very comparable to what Grant did at Tennessee.

It seems like he might have more skill than Grant though, and especially intriguing is his 3 point improvement this year. He was under a 25% shooter his first 3 seasons at Missouri, then this year he shot .455 (51/112) on 3.3 attempts/game.

If that's at all real there's some upside, and he's a 23 year old senior and looks to fit the high floor, polished product criteria as well.

I’m a Mizzou guy and would love this, great kid. His jumper is a set shot which may not translate the best.

 

[TripleOT]

Only a handful of players picked 35 and after the last four drafts could even sniff the Celtics rotation: Herb Jones, Dosunmu, Livers, Jaylin Williams, Tillman, KMart Jr., Gafford, THT, Terance Mann, Jalen McDaniels. It will be a miracle if Brad can find a contributor at 35 this summer.

Odds are they will pick a project with great upside. They may want to bring Begarin over this year, and could use some young energy as their 11th man.

 

[benhogan]

It’s doubtful that the Cs will be able to select a rotation ready rookie at 35, so taking a prospect with a high ceiling makes more sense to me than taking a player who might some day crack the back half of the rotation. It seems that Boston has that philosophy, with JDD and French JB. Since they already have a project PG and a project wing, a project big makes sense.

the Celtics have had a little more recent success selecting so-called "higher floor" picks than "higher ceiling" projects, so I'm not going to pretend to know their philosophy at #35

 

[Cellar-Door]

I think there is likely some real CBA related upside to drafting a stash here if they like one. Next year's roster is pretty full, but they'll be gutting it in 2-3 years to stay under the apron and that's when bringing in a high 2nd talent who has been developing overseas at a high 2nd salary would be great

 

[tbb345]

I think there is likely some real CBA related upside to drafting a stash here if they like one. Next year's roster is pretty full, but they'll be gutting it in 2-3 years to stay under the apron and that's when bringing in a high 2nd talent who has been developing overseas at a high 2nd salary would be great

At 35, I think the only player that fits the “stash” description is Vukcevic

 

[Cellar-Door]

At 35, I think the only player that fits the “stash” description is Vukcevic

Nnaji could hypothetically be there, also Djurisic.

 

[benhogan]

I think there is likely some real CBA related upside to drafting a stash here if they like one. Next year's roster is pretty full, but they'll be gutting it in 2-3 years to stay under the apron and that's when bringing in a high 2nd talent who has been developing overseas at a high 2nd salary would be great

Europe is a good place for young prospects.

I also wouldn't be shocked to see a 14-man roster with more experienced players on 3-ways.