Penn State AD and Sandusky Charged

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It's still crazy to me that people who were in positions of power in the government aren't getting more heat in the discussion about not doing enough and looking the other way. Just the fact that law enforcement was aware of allegations against Sandusky going back to 1995 boggles my mind.

Tom Corbett in particular comes off as one of the scummier innocent bystanders in all of this—If it's true that he only assigned one state trooper to follow up on rape charges against Sandusky in 2009, never making an arrest and effectively doing nothing for two years when he was in charge of the investigation as Attorney General, and all the while accepting $650,000 in donations from Second Mile board members; it seems he should be lumped in and condemned with everyone else who looked the other way. Instead, as Governor he's still profiting politically from the whole thing.
 

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It's still crazy to me that people who were in positions of power in the government aren't getting more heat in the discussion about not doing enough and looking the other way. Just the fact that law enforcement was aware of allegations against Sandusky going back to 1995 boggles my mind.

Tom Corbett in particular comes off as one of the scummier innocent bystanders in all of this—If it's true that he only assigned one state trooper to follow up on rape charges against Sandusky in 2009, never making an arrest and effectively doing nothing for two years when he was in charge of the investigation as Attorney General, and all the while accepting $650,000 in donations from Second Mile board members; it seems he should be lumped in and condemned with everyone else who looked the other way. Instead, as Governor he's still profiting politically from the whole thing.
How do you figure? Corbett's office took charge of the investigation that brought down Sandusky, when they could have left it to the local DA. That investigation began with a 2009 allegation against Sandusky by a student at a local school. By then, Sandusky had been retired from PSU for a decade, and because the 1998 investigation was not filed as a criminal matter (as we learned from the Freeh report), the facts of the case didn't immediately take them to PSU. (Presumably, that happened when one of the victims told them he had been molested at PSU.)
 

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Anyone see Citadel Friday late afternoon announced they are scrapping the private investigation of it's own sexual assault coverup issue? Their board had promised a thorough investigative report, but I'm guessing seeing the shitstorm the Freeh report cast they though better of one.
 

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How do you figure? Corbett's office took charge of the investigation that brought down Sandusky, when they could have left it to the local DA. That investigation began with a 2009 allegation against Sandusky by a student at a local school. By then, Sandusky had been retired from PSU for a decade, and because the 1998 investigation was not filed as a criminal matter (as we learned from the Freeh report), the facts of the case didn't immediately take them to PSU. (Presumably, that happened when one of the victims told them he had been molested at PSU.)
Yeah. I guess my post was a bit sloppy in making assertions and possibly conflating certain things — I probably shouldn't have phrased it as "condemning" or lumping him on the same level with Penn State people who abused their power. It's just the sense I got of Corbett from this article http://espn.go.com/e...e-state-capital was that he's someone who put more of his effort into pursuing his own political career and vendettas seemingly at the expense of the investigation, and didn't really act on anything until it aligned with his interests and was politically convenient. But I shouldn't have implied he was somehow culpable for the actual crimes in the same way others were. I think I get caught up in the notion that everyone involved is rotten when I read about this stuff.
 

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I'm not much for photoshop, but there have to be others who have noted the similarities:



If they're going to leave the statute up, can they at least remove "educator" and "humanitarian?" O'Reilly is right, This man only cared about reputation and winning, nothing else. If he helped any kids, it was only to keep them eligible for the big game, and to keep the school's reputation up. He did not give a shit about anyone but himself.
 

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PeteAbe airs out the Bill James laundry to a broader local audience in the Globe, and it's been all over Boston sports talk radio this morning.

It seems inevitable that the Red Sox will have to issue some sort of statement distancing themselves from James' idiotic stance on the issue. He already declined an invitation to discuss the issue on Dennis & Callahan, so perhaps they've already applied the duct tape to his mouth.
 

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The Paterno family refuses to go quietly, calling for an independent review of the investigation. They also want to "identify new information that should be analyzed". I'm about half way through the Freeh report and is seems pretty comprehensive (as others who have read it in it's entirety have noted).

It makes me wonder what these people are looking for: are they doing this out of loyalty to JoePa, are they just simply unable to accept the conclusions of the Freeh report, or do they honestly know something that the rest of us don't and that Freeh somehow missed? My guess is that they simply can't accept this awful truth and will do whatever it takes so preserve the JoePa legacy.
 

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It makes me wonder what these people are looking for: are they doing this out of loyalty to JoePa, are they just simply unable to accept the conclusions of the Freeh report, or do they honestly know something that the rest of us don't and that Freeh somehow missed?
I think if the Paternos had any information that would absolve Joe, if they had any cards left to play, they would have laid it out long before now. They're fighting to save his legacy, and I'm sure that his wife and kids can't bring themselves to believe he covered up for Sandusky, so they can't accept the Freeh report.
 

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The Paterno family refuses to go quietly, calling for an independent review of the investigation. They also want to "identify new information that should be analyzed". I'm about half way through the Freeh report and is seems pretty comprehensive (as others who have read it in it's entirety have noted).

It makes me wonder what these people are looking for: are they doing this out of loyalty to JoePa, are they just simply unable to accept the conclusions of the Freeh report, or do they honestly know something that the rest of us don't and that Freeh somehow missed? My guess is that they simply can't accept this awful truth and will do whatever it takes so preserve the JoePa legacy.
They want an independent review of an independent report (which was done by a very qualified and impartial investigator)? More likely they want an "independent" investigator THEY choose.

These people are no longer connected to reality...first stage of grief. They should be careful what they wish for. I doubt anything comes of a new investigation but more evidence against him.
 

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I think if the Paternos had any information that would absolve Joe, if they had any cards left to play, they would have laid it out long before now. They're fighting to save his legacy, and I'm sure that his wife and kids can't bring themselves to believe he covered up for Sandusky, so they can't accept the Freeh report.
The entire freaking cover up was designed to protect Joe Pa's legacy. Not the school, not the team, not the "brand" - Joe Paterno. If it was any other coach, Penn State would have called in the cops right away. It was Joe's self created myth of sainthood and holier-than-thou'ness that everyone tiptoed around and tried, at all costs, to preserve. Even if the cost was kids continuing to get raped in the showers.

His family needs to go away.
 

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PeteAbe airs out the Bill James laundry to a broader local audience in the Globe, and it's been all over Boston sports talk radio this morning.

It seems inevitable that the Red Sox will have to issue some sort of statement distancing themselves from James' idiotic stance on the issue. He already declined an invitation to discuss the issue on Dennis & Callahan, so perhaps they've already applied the duct tape to his mouth.
Given how PR savy the Red Sox are, and considering the beating they are taking in the media these days, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they shit canned his ass. I kind of hope they do. How could anyone of sane mind have that opinion on this subject?? Or maybe even more shocking is even if you DID have that opinion, how could you possibly not understand you shouldn't make it known to the media??
 

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Given how PR savy the Red Sox are, and considering the beating they are taking in the media these days, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they shit canned his ass. I kind of hope they do. How could anyone of sane mind have that opinion on this subject?? Or maybe even more shocking is even if you DID have that opinion, how could you possibly not understand you shouldn't make it known to the media??
PR savvy? Please pass along the name of the surgeon who detaches tongue from cheek. This would be RedSoxian -- feed a brush fire over here to distract from a steaming pile of crap over there -- so obvious it isn't very clever.

I have no interest in people losing their positions over views that have nothing to do with their jobs, no matter how crazy. Bobby Fischer was a raging nut; he also was a superlative chess player.
 

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Three additional men have told investigators Sandusky molested them in the 1970s and 80s.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/07/jerry_sandusky_case_three_men.html
 

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Given how PR savy the Red Sox are, and considering the beating they are taking in the media these days, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they shit canned his ass. I kind of hope they do. How could anyone of sane mind have that opinion on this subject?? Or maybe even more shocking is even if you DID have that opinion, how could you possibly not understand you shouldn't make it known to the media??
Well, it's not like the Sox have a horrendous past of covering up child sex abuse...

Oh wait...
 

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Red Sox Owner John Henry & GM Ben Cherington spoke to Bill James regarding him making public his personal opinions on Joe Paterno (1 of 3)

In that call, Mr. James was informed that his comments in no way reflect the opinions or positions of the Red Sox (2 of 3)

Because Mr. James is perceived as representative of Red Sox, he was asked to refrain from further public comments on this matter. (3 of 3)
https://twitter.com/RedSox
 

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Can anyone explain to me, why they didn't just fire Sandusky?? The report states that Paterno and others knew Sandusky was engaging in child rape, or at the very least suspected it...........isn't the easy way out to just fire him?? They still would be horrific criminal scumbags who turned a blind eye to child rape and then lied about it, but to me it seems like the logical move if that's the way your going to proceed.

Certainly Sandusky would be in no position to object.
 
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Sure, but then you run the risk of having him either get caught raping kids by people with a conscience who will expose him for what he is and run the risk of having to answer questions about a guy who worked for you as high-ranking, trusted assistant for 30 years. Apparently the feared embarrassment of that possibility made it better to keep him in house.

The whole 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer' thing.
 

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Can anyone explain to me, why they didn't just fire Sandusky?? The report states that Paterno and others knew Sandusky was engaging in child rape, or at the very least suspected it...........isn't the easy way out to just fire him?? They still would be horrific criminal scumbags who turned a blind eye to child rape and then lied about it, but to me it seems like the logical move if that's the way your going to proceed.

Certainly Sandusky would be in no position to object.
It seems pretty clear from the Freeh report that Paterno had already decided that Sandusky wasn't going to succeed him in February of 1998, which was before the 1998 investigation took place. There is a note from Paterno that basically said that Sandusky was too involved with 2nd Mile to be the next head coach of PSU.

If you believe that, then the most charitable interpretation was that the PSU administration (including Paterno) had already begun negotiating with Sandusky about his exit; the 1998 investigation took place but was inconclusive; and the PSU officials believed that since Sandusky was on his way out, that was good enough for the program.

I think the huge disconnect between those who still support Paterno and the rest of the world is that yes, a set of facts may exist in which Paterno had absolutely no knowledge that Sandusky sexually assaulted kids. But if true, the only reason those facts could exist is because Paterno took multiple deliberate and intentional actions to make sure he didn't know - or had some sort of "plausible deniability" of - any details, because he wouldn't want the details tarnishing the PSU program.

Well, the problem that sometimes one's deniability is no longer plausible. To use legal jargon, whether or not Paterno knew is not the issue anymore. The issue was whether - even assuming arguendo that he did not know - he should have known. And I think it's pretty clear that yes, if he did not know, he should have known.
 

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It seems pretty clear from the Freeh report that Paterno had already decided that Sandusky wasn't going to succeed him in February of 1998, which was before the 1998 investigation took place. There is a note from Paterno that basically said that Sandusky was too involved with 2nd Mile to be the next head coach of PSU.

If you believe that, then the most charitable interpretation was that the PSU administration (including Paterno) had already begun negotiating with Sandusky about his exit; the 1998 investigation took place but was inconclusive; and the PSU officials believed that since Sandusky was on his way out, that was good enough for the program.

I think the huge disconnect between those who still support Paterno and the rest of the world is that yes, a set of facts may exist in which Paterno had absolutely no knowledge that Sandusky sexually assaulted kids. But if true, the only reason those facts could exist is because Paterno took multiple deliberate and intentional actions to make sure he didn't know - or had some sort of "plausible deniability" of - any details, because he wouldn't want the details tarnishing the PSU program.

Well, the problem that sometimes one's deniability is no longer plausible. To use legal jargon, whether or not Paterno knew is not the issue anymore. The issue was whether - even assuming arguendo that he did not know - he should have known. And I think it's pretty clear that yes, if he did not know, he should have known.
I've always viewed Sandusky's *retirement* as a dismissal. Who knows what prompted it. There could have been mixed motives.

These crimes and 2nd Mile aside, it seems clear that nothing would remove Joe's death grip from the coaching job except death itself. Were it up to him and Bowden, they'd still be going at it for most wins. Wooden retired at 65, how quaint.
 

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I think the huge disconnect between those who still support Paterno and the rest of the world is that yes, a set of facts may exist in which Paterno had absolutely no knowledge that Sandusky sexually assaulted kids. But if true, the only reason those facts could exist is because Paterno took multiple deliberate and intentional actions to make sure he didn't know - or had some sort of "plausible deniability" of - any details, because he wouldn't want the details tarnishing the PSU program. Well, the problem that sometimes one's deniability is no longer plausible. To use legal jargon, whether or not Paterno knew is not the issue anymore. The issue was whether - even assuming arguendo that he did not know - he should have known. And I think it's pretty clear that yes, if he did not know, he should have known.

This, I think, sums it up pretty well. JoePa made sure that his hands were legally clean but that doesn't amount to much in the grand scheme of things.
 
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One could easily interpret Paterno's dislike of Sandusky's devotion to Second Mile (the reason stated for why he would never be HC) as acknowledgement that Paterno suspected or knew what Sandusky was up to even then. He could have seen it as the Victim Factory it was given Joe's unique vantage point.
 

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May not be free and clear of the NCAA

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/19600940/video-ncaa-president-mark-emmert-will-not-rule-out-death-penalty-for-penn-state

New information and evidence revealed in the Freeh Report show that Penn State administrators had multiple opportunities to put a stop to Jerry Sandusky's sexual abuse on and around campus.

Their inaction for more than a decade could result in NCAA action against the school, and President Mark Emmert is not willing to take any possible punishments off the table at this point.

In a recent PBS interview with Tavis Smiley, Emmert addressed the Penn State saying that he has "never seen anything as egregious as this in terms of just overall conduct and behavior inside a university and hope to never see it again."

Often, past precedent will be a factor taken into consideration when it comes to NCAA enforcement. Even in the early stages of determining if penalties will be enforced, Emmert says this may be a case where past precedent makes sense because the issue at Penn State is an "unprecedented problem."

"This is completely different than an impermissible benefits scandal like [what] happened at SMU, or anything else we've dealt with," Emmert explained. "This is as systemic a cultural problem as it is a football problem. There have been people that said this wasn't a football scandal.

"Well, it was more than a football scandal, much more than a football scandal. It was that but much more. And we'll have to figure out exactly what the right penalties are. I don't know that past precedent makes particularly good sense in this case, because it's really an unprecedented problem."
 

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Rocco put his finger on a very important point -- I'd like to understand the thinking that led to awful decisions with horrible consequences. Three possibilities occur to me --

1. Joe was an old school guy who couldn't wrap his mind around something that society kept hidden for so long. Myt mentioned this the other day. I'm not persuaded, but it's a possibility.

2. On the other end of the spectrum, Sandusky was protected because he was a keeper of family secrets -- wrongdoing in other areas that could take down the program and ruin Joe's legacy. I've seen no evidence of this. In the main, the program seems to have been as advertised, which makes this even more incomprehensible.

3. The concept of scandal, which has a very specific Church based meaning that antedates the sex abuse scandal, though it obviously pertains to other institutions as well. Simply put -- the institution or someone in its employ may have sinned greviously and created great harm, but do not acknowledge it because that will be used as a weapon against the institution, which is the font of much greater good.

I don't for a minute believe that Joe would have taken a hit, reputationally or fundraising wise, had he turned Sandusky in 14 years ago. Instead, that would have simply reinforced the belief that Joe always does the right thing.

But could it have hurt him recruiting? Was Penn State slipping from the ranks of the elite at that time? Its last consensus national championship was won 12 years before. The team was 4 years removed from its last undefeated, untied season. Given Sandusky's prominent role in the program, I can understand if Joe feared that the program would be beaten to death with this. And because Penn State stands for the summum bonum ... scandal must be avoided.

I think there might be something to this if one goes back in time.

Again, we're way past right/wrong here. I'm just trying to understand the pathology because I think everyone would benefit from that. For this reason, I hope somebody in the know talks, but I'm very doubtful this will happen.
 
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The NCAA has to do something and something BIG.

Its almost ironic, but the issue of lack of institutional control (LOIC), is central to other NCAA sanctions in the past, but in this case its not LOIC, but rather total institutional control that led to the cover-up and perpetuation of terrinble crimes .
 

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Rocco put his finger on a very important point -- I'd like to understand the thinking that led to awful decisions with horrible consequences. Three possibilities occur to me --

1. Joe was an old school guy who couldn't wrap his mind around something that society kept hidden for so long. Myt mentioned this the other day. I'm not persuaded, but it's a possibility.
I'm not buying this at all. Paterno was quaintly behind the times in matters of style (references to "lettermen sweaters," for instance), but he was by all accounts a well-read and worldly man. Such a man could not be oblivious as late as 1998 to the pervasiveness of sexual abuse.


2. On the other end of the spectrum, Sandusky was protected because he was a keeper of family secrets -- wrongdoing in other areas that could take down the program and ruin Joe's legacy. I've seen no evidence of this. In the main, the program seems to have been as advertised, which makes this even more incomprehensible.
I agree. As I said in the other thread, I think the Freeh report rules out the possibility that Sandusky was a keeper of secrets.


3. The concept of scandal, which has a very specific Church based meaning that antedates the sex abuse scandal, though it obviously pertains to other institutions as well. Simply put -- the institution or someone in its employ may have sinned greviously and created great harm, but do not acknowledge it because that will be used as a weapon against the institution, which is the font of much greater good.
The doctrine of "scandal" is idolatrous enough in church; it's absolutely absurd applied to something as ultimately trivial as a college sports program.

Of course, Paterno didn't see his "grand experiment" as a trivial thing, so you may be on to something.


I don't for a minute believe that Joe would have taken a hit, reputationally or fundraising wise, had he turned Sandusky in 14 years ago. Instead, that would have simply reinforced the belief that Joe always does the right thing.

But could it have hurt him recruiting? Was Penn State slipping from the ranks of the elite at that time? Its last consensus national championship was won 12 years before. The team was 4 years removed from its last undefeated, untied season. Given Sandusky's prominent role in the program, I can understand if Joe feared that the program would be beaten to death with this. And because Penn State stands for the summum bonum ... scandal must be avoided.
There was no need to "turn in" Sandusky in 1998. The police were on the case. It's not Paterno's fault they declined to press charges. It emphatically is his fault, however, that as Sandusky's direct supervisor with knowledge of the situation he did not (1) ensure that someone from TSM was notified of the investigation, and (2) make it clear, in no uncertain terms, that Sandusky was no longer welcome to bring TSM kids on campus.

When McQueary told Paterno what he saw in 2001, Paterno's moral obligations were crystal clear. Problem is, by that time Paterno's opportunity to play the white knight had passed. If Paterno had referred McQueary's report to the police, when the facts came in he would've been (rightly) blasted for not doing more in 1998. Therefore, he committed the greater evil of covering up the 2001 incident to cover his lesser evil of not doing more to stop Sandusky in 1998. The notion of "scandal" you mention may have helped him rationalize this, but his motives were fundamentally no different from anyone else who countenances a great evil to keep their personal sins (even venial ones) from coming to light.


I watched this last night and came away from it thinking they will do something and it won't be a wrist slap. That guy was careful with his words, but I no longer think they'll shrug their shoulders and say "Beyond our purview!"
I agree. Emmert is obviously going to use this "unprecedented" scandal to create a precedent for more sweeping NCAA oversight of member institutions. It's a shrewd move, because the public outrage at PSU will make it difficult for other member institutions to check Emmert's power grab.

The question, then, is whether PSU can challenge any NCAA punishment in the courts. I know that NCAA sanctions normally aren't judicially challenged, but that's because the legal theory for sanctions is usually not controversial. Normally, the controversy revolves around the facts; if member institutions didn't defer to the factual findings of an NCAA investigation, the system would collapse.

If, as I suspect, the NCAA's grounds for punishing PSU are less than airtight, Emmert will be under pressure to impose a light sentence, such that PSU decides it would rather accept the punishment than incur the PR hit that would come from fighting it. Personally, I think this would be the worst possible outcome -- no action by the NCAA is preferable to a slap on the wrist.
 

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When McQueary told Paterno what he saw in 2001, Paterno's moral obligations were crystal clear. Problem is, by that time Paterno's opportunity to play the white knight had passed. If Paterno had referred McQueary's report to the police, when the facts came in he would've been (rightly) blasted for not doing more in 1998. Therefore, he committed the greater evil of covering up the 2001 incident to cover his lesser evil of not doing more to stop Sandusky in 1998. The notion of "scandal" you mention may have helped him rationalize this, but his motives were fundamentally no different from anyone else who countenances a great evil to keep their personal sins (even venial ones) from coming to light.
This is also at the heart of why Nixon, Haldeman, etc., went all-in on the cover-up of the Watergate break-in. You hear people say, "if Nixon had just come clean, people would have forgiven him, the cover-up was worse than the crime," except that Nixon, et al, knew that the same people arrested at the Watergate offices were also the ones who had broken into Ellsberg's psychiatrist's office and several other illegal acts, and that's what they were trying to cover up, because the DNC break-in was just the latest in a series of crimes, not a crime all unto itself.
 

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There was no need to "turn in" Sandusky in 1998. The police were on the case. It's not Paterno's fault they declined to press charges.
Well, that depends on what Paterno knew before 1998.

We will never know, but it's quite possible Paterno knew what Sandusky was doing with the 2nd Mile kids. After all, even if Paterno wasn't going to let Sandusky be head coach of PSU, without knowing more, it doesn't really make sense that Paterno would ask Sandusky to stop coaching (I mean Sandusky could have continued as coordinator or made some sort of assistant head coach understanding that he would not be the successor). Nor did it mean that PSU had to give Sandusky such a great retirement package.

While events don't have to make sense, it seems to me that the events of 1998 and 1999 are really tough to figure out.
 

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Well, that depends on what Paterno knew before 1998.

We will never know, but it's quite possible Paterno knew what Sandusky was doing with the 2nd Mile kids. After all, even if Paterno wasn't going to let Sandusky be head coach of PSU, without knowing more, it doesn't really make sense that Paterno would ask Sandusky to stop coaching (I mean Sandusky could have continued as coordinator or made some sort of assistant head coach understanding that he would not be the successor). Nor did it mean that PSU had to give Sandusky such a great retirement package.

While events don't have to make sense, it seems to me that the events of 1998 and 1999 are really tough to figure out.
In corporate America, I would say that (1) when an executive who is seen as the CEO's heir apparent loses that status, they usually end up being forced out of the organization altogether; and (2) executives who are forced out are frequently given unduly generous severance packages.

We know that Sandusky had become Paterno's heir apparent until Paterno decided, for reasons not known to us, that he didn't want Sandusky to be his successor. Sandusky was treated as a similarly situated business executive would have been treated. I'm not sure how comfortable I am with the analogy between Paterno and a CEO, or Sandusky and a C-level executive, but since college football is big business, it doesn't strike me as suspicious that Sandusky was treated that way.
 

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it doesn't strike me as suspicious that Sandusky was treated that way.
The report makes it quite clear that the retirement package was EXTREMELY unorthodox and without precedent. Not only that, but it was withheld from several parties that should, under normal circumstances, have been made aware of it. Nothing about the situation comes across as above board.
 

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The report makes it quite clear that the retirement package was EXTREMELY unorthodox and without precedent. Not only that, but it was withheld from several parties that should, under normal circumstances, have been made aware of it. Nothing about the situation comes across as above board.
Without question, Freeh and his investigators felt Sandusky's retirement package was inappropriate -- they didn't come out and say so, but the report left no room for doubt about that.

Much of this portion of the report focused on granting Sandusky the title "Professor Emeritus." In hindsight, that's a crucial point, because that title gave Sandusky broad, lifetime access to PSU facilities, which would have complicated matters for anyone who might have had a mind to keep Sandusky from bringing TSM kids on campus (not that anyone had a mind to do that anyway). The only person involved in the decision to grant Sandusky the title "Professor Emeritus" who knew he had been recently investigated for child abuse was Graham Spanier. Obviously, that fact might have made a lot of people feel a lot differently about giving Sandusky an honorific title that he didn't remotely meet the usual qualifications to receive.

Leaving aside Spanier, though, I find it hard to share the report's apparent outrage at the people who voted to approve conferring emeritus rank on Sandusky. Sure, it's ridiculous, but so is having the head football coach be the highest paid person on campus, so is admitting kids who are barely literate because they can run fast or bench 400 pounds, etc., etc. With all the compromises a university must make to maintain a big-time football program, granting emeritus rank to an assistant coach ranks pretty far down the list. This strikes me, therefore, more as an individual failing by Spanier (and also Paterno, who surely could have nixed the honor had he chosen to do so) than a systemic failure.

The report also expresses obvious (if implicit) disapproval of the size of Sandusky's financial package, and the failure of that package to be brought before the full Board of Trustees. This struck me as odd -- I would expect the President of an institution the size of PSU to have authority to sign off on a $200k severance package without consulting the full 50-odd member BoT. Of course it's unusual for an assistant coach to receive that sort of payout, but I wouldn't have expected it to raise an eyebrow among anyone who had no reason to know about the sex abuse allegations against Sandusky.

We'll never know, of course, why Spanier pushed that big package through. I do think that he was concerned he'd be scrutinized for that decision after the fact, and that concern played a role in his decision to participate in the 2001 cover-up.

For me, that's the theme of the Freeh report -- people making bad decisions, then making monstrously evil decisions later to cover for the merely bad decisions. As someone who has hated Joe Paterno as long as I can remember, I would love to conclude this scandal was, at root, about something monstrous at PSU, but the more I look at it, the more I think it could've happened anywhere. People will do some damnable things to cover their asses.
 

canderson

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Please, please, please let this have been done by PSU alumni.
Plane based in Ohio, and it's the same company that flew around the Masters several years ago with those anti Tiger Woods banners.

Edit: Here's the registration file, http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=N66637
 

RingoOSU

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For me, that's the theme of the Freeh report -- people making bad decisions, then making monstrously evil decisions later to cover for the merely bad decisions. As someone who has hated Joe Paterno as long as I can remember, I would love to conclude this scandal was, at root, about something monstrous at PSU, but the more I look at it, the more I think it could've happened anywhere. People will do some damnable things to cover their asses.
If it was just a rare situation created by the fact that a coach was allowed to coach for 60 years and got way too powerful, then maybe the NCAA should just let it go with Paterno's death. But I agree with maufman here. It could have happened at any football school because of the money and stakes involved. The only difference would be the head coach wouldn't be the one pressuring everyone else involved to be quiet. It would be a president, or athletic director. The scary thing is is this wasnt just Paterno, but all the other PSU officials who just let it happen. No matter how powerful Paterno was, all it would take is one whistle blower who really knew what was going on, years before it did. That's why PSU needs to be heavily punished, to help keep it from happening again.
 

Dehere

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Sandusky was treated as a similarly situated business executive would have been treated. I'm not sure how comfortable I am with the analogy between Paterno and a CEO, or Sandusky and a C-level executive, but since college football is big business, it doesn't strike me as suspicious that Sandusky was treated that way.
It's a little suspicious to me in that corporate execs who get these kind of packages are thought to be in high demand because they have institutional knowledge that could put their former employers at a competitive disadvantage if used against them. What kind of knowledge could Sandusky have had that would be a threat to Penn State? The possibility of it being simple Xs and Os football knowledge seems unlikely to me because it's SOP in college football for coordinators and assistants to change jobs all the time without compensation on their way out.