Pats select Western Kentucky QB Bailey Zappe at 137

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Hardly a move without precedent.

QB8 for me, had him as a mid-5th here. Great at escaping pressure, big football brain, great vision side to side up and down the field. Has been called an on-field coach by the Hilltopper staff. Don’t love how much he was in a basic spread offense at WKU that didn’t ask a whole lot of his skills to be (potentially?) be used, can be a bit too happy pulling the trigger before he reads coverage, which impacts his accuracy. Like what we have in Mac, nothing amazing about his arm or legs. Just a fundamentally solid passer with a good head. I think he’s the Hoyer equal and replacement, because he knows the game so well.
 

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Hardly a move without precedent.
Exactly. And Zappe fits our system well. This is another example were punditry ruled the narrative. If we had taken the critics' darling, Sam Howell, this pick would have been lauded. The problem of course is that Howell basically just bombed the ball downfield and was an awful fit for the Patriots, whereas Zappe was a rhythm passer who spread the ball to all parts of the field. The question with Zappe is how he handles pressure, but any QB is going to have questions.
 

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Exactly. And Zappe fits our system well. This is another example were punditry ruled the narrative. If we had taken the critics' darling, Sam Howell, this pick would have been lauded. The problem of course is that Howell basically just bombed the ball downfield and was an awful fit for the Patriots, whereas Zappe was a rhythm passer who spread the ball to all parts of the field. The question with Zappe is how he handles pressure, but any QB is going to have questions.
But the consensus big board!!!! It's a consensus!!!!
 

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First off: great post @Brand Name :)

Exactly. And Zappe fits our system well. This is another example were punditry ruled the narrative. If we had taken the critics' darling, Sam Howell, this pick would have been lauded. The problem of course is that Howell basically just bombed the ball downfield and was an awful fit for the Patriots, whereas Zappe was a rhythm passer who spread the ball to all parts of the field. The question with Zappe is how he handles pressure, but any QB is going to have questions.
Can we discuss Howell for a second?

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Howell ended up going at 144. Willis went at 86. The consensus was wrong this year across the board but I never understood the love for Howell. What exactly did they see in him? Same for Willis. He couldn't process things and made bad decisions in an oversimplified offense. What makes you think he can do better in the NFL? You could say similar things about Howell. I didn't spend much time evaluating the QBs this year but I saw Howell, Willis, and Zappe in the exact same tier of 6.0-6.49:

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I didn't write out a report on any of the QBs. I did them last and didn't have time. BUT SOSH guest Matt Waldman did evaluate him.

Please, if you haven't already, strongly consider buying his work, the Rookie Scouting Portfolio. Matt is an OG draft evaluator and one of the best in the business. He's also one of the kindest individuals in the space.

Here is what Matt had to say about Zappe. Now because he has said this on his pod and in youtubes I am not going to take anything from behind the RSP paywall. He liked Zappe's platform accuracy, decision making, ability to sense pressure and not overreact (cough Kenny Pickett cough), and scrambling. He also thought he could be a starter!

Waldman had Zappe as his QB5 this year. Of the guys discussed as starters he only had Kenny Pickett and Matt Corral above Zappe.
 

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You have Treylon Burks 62nd????

Reasoning?
I just posted that picture to show Howell was a darling in the consensus rankings but who I didn’t get at all. I cut the list off at Howell. I have no issue with them taking Zappe over Howell and honestly I am glad they did. I didn't think Howell was a good fit here either!

I think we're getting off-topic discussing Burks in this thread so I am going to answer you but spoiler it. If you want to go over him we can take it to DM.

If you listened to a common question asked to many of the national draft media people on “Which top prospects landing spot matters the most non-QB?” the most common answer was Burks. Burks could end up being great but he also has bust potential written all over him. He needed to go to a team who used a lot of play action or utilized as a limited route runner for RAC opportunities. He’s not a good route runner and he doesn’t have good COD. He struggles to create any separation. His breaks are garbage. He reminds me a lot of Harry coming out but bigger and a little slower. I didn’t like Harry who was 32nd on consensus and I don’t like Burks. Burks is also such a bad drifter in his routes like… Harry. He beat press this year but not with technique really... it's the weirdest thing to say but he like accidentally beat press sometimes. Also he played almost exclusively in the slot or moved around and not outside. I had a 6.99 on him which is a mid to late second round grade. Also, I’m not the only one to dislike him. Matt Waldman, for example, did not like him much. I wish I could post what he wrote about him and why he feels he is very scheme dependent. He's a lot better of a writer than I am. Regardless though he was my WR9 and Waldman's WR13. The good news for Burks is Tennessee is a good fit for him, I think.

Did you happen to watch him and have a different take on him?
 

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Sharps take also ignores Washington taking cousins in the same draft as rg3. Actually makes his point in some way..
 

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When even the guy you draft thinks he's a reach...lol

Hope it works out great.
 

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Damn dude, let some light into your life. That video was pure joy. Even my jaded ass teared up a little bit.
 

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Damn dude, let some light into your life. That video was pure joy. Even my jaded ass teared up a little bit.
I put "lol". Light, laughter & joy are clearly prevalent in my life :)

Was just playing along with the media narrative that most of our draft picks are reaches, & I do sincerely wish the best for him & the Patriots as it relates to him & was not being sarcastic.
 

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I put "lol". Light, laughter & joy are clearly prevalent in my life :)

Was just playing along with the media narrative that most of our draft picks are reaches, & I do sincerely wish the best for him & the Patriots as it relates to him & was not being sarcastic.
My bad. Hugs and handshakes. Isn’t Klutch LeBron’s agency? Nice to see it’s not thoroughly evil.