Pats reportedly trade for Cordarrelle Patterson

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He's very athletic and obviously has good size and open field abilities. His knock -- at least as a WR -- has always been his limited (nonexistent) route tree and football IQ.

Returns, short game, runs from backfield and gadget plays are his strengths and I'd expect they maximize those areas without expanding his role too much (e.g. larger route tree).
 

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He looks huge.

Damn. That video is impressive.

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Getting Lewis vibes from him. Just makes plays out of nothing. Damn, excited about him.
 

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Which could have been a pretty good description of Hernandez (minus the killings and stuff).
We are in heated agreement. Avoid the murdering, and strikes me as potentially a more lethal option than Hernandez with more ways you can deploy him (on the field).
 

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He seems like he has some real ability but there's a reason that, despite all that ability, he's now on his third team in a short amount of time.

I really hope he reaches his vast potential here.
 

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He seems like he has some real ability but there's a reason that, despite all that ability, he's now on his third team in a short amount of time.

I really hope he reaches his vast potential here.
Guess it depends on what you define as his vast potential. His physical potential is undeniable but it is also greatly limited by his low football IQ. He is essentially a gadget player who needs manufactured touches in space. Not to say there isn't value in that but I doubt he is getting involved in many downfield passing plays outside of perhaps an occasional go route.
We all know Brady expects utmost route running precision from his WR corps. That is not at all something Patterson is known for.
Historically there aren't really any physically gifted but low IQ receivers that have thrived in NE. Typically it is more the opposite. The high IQ, lower physical skill set receivers often flourish in NE. Doug Gabriel certainly comes to mind as someone that had physical tools but not the football IQ to make it in NE. That said he can probably catch 25 passes next year, mostly on screens, and add 10-15 jet sweeps.

His greatest value is in KR game but I think Josh will be able to use him effectively with limited touches. Just don't expect him to be on the field much in obvious passing situations.
 

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Was Hernandez's football IQ very high? I know at the end he was being used as an H-back or true flex receiver, often lining up in the backfield. I can't really recall him being a super go-to, 3rd down, move the chains guy.
I don't know where to get more advanced stats but he averaged 11 yds / catch, which seems good but I recall lots of YAC for him
 

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Cordarrelle is certainly no Randy Moss - but the last time we picked a former Vikings 1st round WR from the Raiders who everyone thought was washed up for little to nothing seemed to work out ok

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Was Hernandez's football IQ very high? I know at the end he was being used as an H-back or true flex receiver, often lining up in the backfield. I can't really recall him being a super go-to, 3rd down, move the chains guy.
I don't know where to get more advanced stats but he averaged 11 yds / catch, which seems good but I recall lots of YAC for him
He was one of the most naturally gifted ball carriers I’ve ever seen among non-RBs, and certainly among big receivers, in terms of finding/creating space. Over half his career yards came after the catch, which I think is pretty unusual for a non-RB. A lot of that is probably usage too.

Fun note: His 519 YAC in 2011 was good for 9th in the league but only 3rd on the team behind Welker and Gronk.
 

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A former TE with close to 10 years in the NFL, who know has a radio show here, opined that AH was the best route runner at TE he had ever seen, and it isn’t particularly close.

Massive waste of great talent just compounds the tragedy.
 

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A former TE with close to 10 years in the NFL, who know has a radio show here, opined that AH was the best route runner at TE he had ever seen, and it isn’t particularly close.

Massive waste of great talent just compounds the tragedy.
That’s what I was wondering. Thanks! The electric stuff he did with the ball in his hands is memorable, not the precise out cut at 11 yards
 

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Guess it depends on what you define as his vast potential. His physical potential is undeniable but it is also greatly limited by his low football IQ. He is essentially a gadget player who needs manufactured touches in space. Not to say there isn't value in that but I doubt he is getting involved in many downfield passing plays outside of perhaps an occasional go route.
We all know Brady expects utmost route running precision from his WR corps. That is not at all something Patterson is known for.
Historically there aren't really any physically gifted but low IQ receivers that have thrived in NE. Typically it is more the opposite. The high IQ, lower physical skill set receivers often flourish in NE. Doug Gabriel certainly comes to mind as someone that had physical tools but not the football IQ to make it in NE. That said he can probably catch 25 passes next year, mostly on screens, and add 10-15 jet sweeps.

His greatest value is in KR game but I think Josh will be able to use him effectively with limited touches. Just don't expect him to be on the field much in obvious passing situations.
I think this is exactly right. 13 is his career high for carries in a season. If he gets on the field on offense, I wouldn't be surprised if he smashes that total.
 

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A former TE with close to 10 years in the NFL, who know has a radio show here, opined that AH was the best route runner at TE he had ever seen, and it isn’t particularly close.

Massive waste of great talent just compounds the tragedy.
He was so young, too. To put it in perspective, Hernandez was born a month after Travis Kelce.
 

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Was Hernandez's football IQ very high? I know at the end he was being used as an H-back or true flex receiver, often lining up in the backfield. I can't really recall him being a super go-to, 3rd down, move the chains guy.
I don't know where to get more advanced stats but he averaged 11 yds / catch, which seems good but I recall lots of YAC for him
You've got to think his football IQ was pretty high--he played so much, so soon, in hurry up situations, and Brady was very willing to throw to him from an early stage (45 receptions as a rookie?). As talented as he was with the ball I can't believe they would have used him that frequently if he didn't have a pretty high football IQ.
 

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You've got to think his football IQ was pretty high--he played so much, so soon, in hurry up situations, and Brady was very willing to throw to him from an early stage (45 receptions as a rookie?). As talented as he was with the ball I can't believe they would have used him that frequently if he didn't have a pretty high football IQ.
Hernandez hit kind of a rookie wall, too - only 11 receptions on 18 targets in his final six games. He had 34 catches on 46 targets for 436 yards in his first eight games. Maybe the biggest immediate impact any rookie receiver (including pass-catching TE and RB) has had for the Pats. Gronk did end up with about the same number of yards and 10 TDs.

EDIT: and TE is no joke; they're running all the slot receiver routes plus they have to know all the blocking assignments. Maybe the toughest position to learn in the Pats O other than QB and pass-catching RB.
 

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Hernandez hit kind of a rookie wall, too - only 11 receptions on 18 targets in his final six games. He had 34 catches on 46 targets for 436 yards in his first eight games. Maybe the biggest immediate impact any rookie receiver (including pass-catching TE and RB) has had for the Pats. Gronk did end up with about the same number of yards and 10 TDs.

EDIT: and TE is no joke; they're running all the slot receiver routes plus they have to know all the blocking assignments. Maybe the toughest position to learn in the Pats O other than QB and pass-catching RB.
Not to mention the chips or delayed routes.
 

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Methinks (and other posters have noted that) recent events may have highlighted this acquisition as, perhaps, more significant than we previously thought. At the very least, this is a guy to pick-up near the end of your next fantasy draft...
 

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Methinks (and other posters have noted that) recent events may have highlighted this acquisition as, perhaps, more significant than we previously thought. At the very least, this is a guy to pick-up near the end of your next fantasy draft...
I don't think one has anything to do with the other. They traded a fifth for Patterson - and got a sixth back. He was a nice low-cost flyer for a guy with some physical talent who can return kicks. They've never had him in camp or practice so they certainly can't project him to the kind of role Cooks filled. He doesn't even have the same body type. This is way too much dot-connecting, IMO. They have to fill out a 90-man roster in the offseason, they needed a new KR with Lewis gone, Patterson cost essentially nothing; were they supposed to stand pat on WR? Were people going to read a lot into anything they did?

If anything I would think this suggests a bullishness on some combination of Mitchell's knee and Britt / Dorsett's ability to acclimate with a year in the system. More likely it means nothing at all other than they like getting a first-round pick better than paying Cooks a bunch of money.
 

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I think SN as usual hits on it---Never loved Kenny Britt, but he has the potential to becomes a very affordable starting receiver.

And while Brady didn't look toward Dorsett much, perhaps they saw enough to believe he and Brady can develop chemistry--he is fast enough to at least make the defense think.
 

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Thanks for shaing that. You can tell he's absolutely psyched to be coming here, and that's heartening. I know with the drama lately, i've felt that it may impact the way that potential players might view the organization, but this helps me sleep better at night.