2023 Pats: Offseason

DeadlySplitter

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He was pretty damn useful for the SB53 win, so thanks for that. Very suddenly started to decline last year.

EDIT: I can't remember stuff anymore, the SB53 punter was Ryan Allen.
 

BigJimEd

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There was some reporting at the time of Bailey's suspension that his guaranteed salary for next year could be voided.

I assume Bailey would fight that if the Patriots did go that route.
 
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With Lindstrom signing his mega deal, signing Onwenu to an extension should be a priority
 

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It’s so interesting to see the Pats doing these little deals for players Pats fans think suck (and player who certainly didn’t play great). It’s not big bucks to get Raekwon or Davis and it seems that the Pats would rather have them than a random minimum salary guy, but it does highlight a gap between what fans like and what the team values
 

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It’s so interesting to see the Pats doing these little deals for players Pats fans think suck (and player who certainly didn’t play great). It’s not big bucks to get Raekwon or Davis and it seems that the Pats would rather have them than a random minimum salary guy, but it does highlight a gap between what fans like and what the team values
Makes some sense, McMillan wasn't good on D, but he played a good amount of ST, and his contract is barely over the minimum, and that's only if he makes the final roster. Plus he was coming off an ACL so there is some upside for this year given guys are usually better the 2nd year after an ACL

Davis is likely a veteran benefit deal again, means he's just cheap depth.

I generally like the approach, you shore up some of your deep depth at basically no cost as you look to improve your top line.
 

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Makes some sense, McMillan wasn't good on D, but he played a good amount of ST, and his contract is barely over the minimum, and that's only if he makes the final roster. Plus he was coming off an ACL so there is some upside for this year given guys are usually better the 2nd year after an ACL

Davis is likely a veteran benefit deal again, means he's just cheap depth.

I generally like the approach, you shore up some of your deep depth at basically no cost as you look to improve your top line.
2023 Patriots Free Agent Tracker

DT Carl Davis - Reportedly Re-Signed
Analysis:"The Patriots continue taking care of in-house free agents by re-signing the role-playing nose tackle. Davis played 219 defensive snaps and nearly 30 percent of the snaps on special teams as an early-down and short-yardage run stuffer. Although he won't play a major role, his presence on the roster allows the Pats to flex defensive tackle Davon Godchaux to defensive end when the team wants to load up against the run by putting several big bodies on the interior D-Line." - Evan Lazar

LB Raekwon McMillan - Reportedly Re-Signed | Full Analysis | Bio
Analysis: "McMillan provides quality depth and experience along with Ja'Whaun Bentley and Jahlani Tavai, who was also signed to an extension this season. McMillan brings some added athleticism to the spot and should continue to see his role evolve on defense while maintaining a solid presence on special teams." - Mike Dussault
 

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It’s so interesting to see the Pats doing these little deals for players Pats fans think suck (and player who certainly didn’t play great). It’s not big bucks to get Raekwon or Davis and it seems that the Pats would rather have them than a random minimum salary guy, but it does highlight a gap between what fans like and what the team values
Wait for the reaction when they re-sign Miles Bryant.
 

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Some day maybe he'll be good enough for people to spell his name correctly.
 

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I'd agree but I recall Miles Bryant Sucks being a consistent winner in game thread bingo.
Absolutely. He’s an ok player who gets housed now and then by much better players etc.

Also he’s not good enough at football and I’m not good enough at spelling to get Myles/Miles right
 

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Absolutely. He’s an ok player who gets housed now and then by much better players etc.

Also he’s not good enough at football and I’m not good enough at spelling to get Myles/Miles right
No, he's fucking terrible, and like another guy with Y as a second letter in his name (Cyrus Jones, 5 fucking fumbles, are you fucking kidding me), I'm almost convinced he has compromising photos of BB somewhere on his phone.

In 2021, Isaiah McKenzie had 20 catches for 178 yards and 1 td. He had 55% of those catches, 70% of his yards and 100% of his touchdowns against the Pats in week 15, when Myles Bryant was chasing him all over the field. It's the same game where Myles Bryant had a career high 9 tackles. Those things are not a coincidence.

I hate Myles Bryant.
 

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No, he's fucking terrible, and like another guy with Y as a second letter in his name (Cyrus Jones, 5 fucking fumbles, are you fucking kidding me), I'm almost convinced he has compromising photos of BB somewhere on his phone.

In 2021, Isaiah McKenzie had 20 catches for 178 yards and 1 td. He had 55% of those catches, 70% of his yards and 100% of his touchdowns against the Pats in week 15, when Myles Bryant was chasing him all over the field. It's the same game where Myles Bryant had a career high 9 tackles. Those things are not a coincidence.

I hate Myles Bryant.
UNLESS ... you look at this as Bill's secret plan to convince the Bills to use McKenzie as their permanent slot guy, where he was so mediocre they had to bring back Undead Cole Beasley.

Point: Bill
 

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I feel like the best pure FA signings in his 20+ years have been linebackers. Might we see a Lavonte David? A high-level off-ball LB would help this D immensely, and per PFF "David's 88.5 coverage grade this season ranked second among off-ball linebackers, and his elite 93.0 mark over the past four seasons is the top mark at the position."
 

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FA legal tampering opened yesterday. The new league year hasn't technically started.

Let's see what happens.
 

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No, he's fucking terrible, and like another guy with Y as a second letter in his name (Cyrus Jones, 5 fucking fumbles, are you fucking kidding me), I'm almost convinced he has compromising photos of BB somewhere on his phone.

In 2021, Isaiah McKenzie had 20 catches for 178 yards and 1 td. He had 55% of those catches, 70% of his yards and 100% of his touchdowns against the Pats in week 15, when Myles Bryant was chasing him all over the field. It's the same game where Myles Bryant had a career high 9 tackles. Those things are not a coincidence.

I hate Myles Bryant.
Myles Bryant sucked in 2021. Myles Bryant wasn't bad at all last year to my eyes. Maybe the numbers guys can weigh in.

I encourage the harboring of grudges though.
 

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They needed a number one receiver. Now they need a number one receiver and a slot receiver. I don't know why people are pegging Meyers as the number one guy and talking about directly upgrading as if his absence doesn't mean another hole you have to cover. There's no one player they can get to make this offense functional now, Bourne isn't the type of slot guy their system demands.
 

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They needed a number one receiver. Now they need a number one receiver and a slot receiver. I don't know why people are pegging Meyers as the number one guy and talking about directly upgrading as if his absence doesn't mean another hole you have to cover. There's no one player they can get to make this offense functional now, Bourne isn't the type of slot guy their system demands.
There is one player that will make the offense at least functional but you can't talk to him until tomorrow because he self-represents, just saying. Think I'm ready to join the Lamar express at this point.
 

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They needed a number one receiver. Now they need a number one receiver and a slot receiver. I don't know why people are pegging Meyers as the number one guy and talking about directly upgrading as if his absence doesn't mean another hole you have to cover. There's no one player they can get to make this offense functional now, Bourne isn't the type of slot guy their system demands.
Do they really need a new slot? I think Bourne is the slot unless they somehow add JSN.
What they need is a guy to push down Parker/Thornton/Agholor the DC on the outside.
 

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If they sign a “functional” slot guy WEEI personalities will say, the other teams are all upgrading and the Patriots countered with THIS??

Not that their opinion matters. They can trade for Hopkins and draft Flowers.

Battaboombattabing.
 

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If they sign a “functional” slot guy WEEI personalities will say, the other teams are all upgrading and the Patriots countered with THIS??

Not that their opinion matters. They can trade for Hopkins and draft Flowers.

Battaboombattabing.
I mean, those WEEI personalities will be 100% in the right if they let Meyers go to sign Braxton Berrios or Parris Campbell.
 

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Why is it relevant what WEEI personalities say?


Would not be surprised if they had interest in Campbell.
 

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Why is it relevant what WEEI personalities say?


Would not be surprised if they had interest in Campbell.
yeah he seems like the type of guy they kick the tires on... highly drafted, lost a ton of time to injuries, still has some real skill and entering prime years.

last year was his first healthy season out of 4, so he'll likely be cheap, and he showed some stuff in a terrible offense. If he comes cheap he's a nice addition.
 

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I mean, those WEEI personalities will be 100% in the right if they let Meyers go to sign Braxton Berrios or Parris Campbell.
The other day when the Pats expressed interest in Dorsett and it looked like Rodgers was going to the Jets, one EEI guy was like… the Jets get Rodgers and the Pats counter with Dorsett?

As if that’s what happened…. BB is sitting there watching the Jets go after Rodgers and then says, oh yeah? Watch what WE do!
 

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The other day when the Pats expressed interest in Dorsett and it looked like Rodgers was going to the Jets, one EEI guy was like… the Jets get Rodgers and the Pats counter with Dorsett?
There's a guy in Central Square with half a bottle of Robitussin in him arguing with a telephone pole. We shouldn't worry what he thinks about the Pats offseason either.
 

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Why do I have a growing feeling the Patriots are indeed targeting Hopkins and are currently in the midst of trying to get him to rework his contract prior to a trade?

I think I prefer a combo of Jeudy ($2.6 million in ‘24, $13 million in ‘25) and drafting JSN, but the Broncos have to play for that to happen and JSN would seemingly have to fall a bit in the draft.

Hopkins w/a restructure likely means less draft capital, which seems more likely for a team with so many needs.
 

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Feels like this might be the type of offseason where we go bargain shopping for short-money deals. If so, any love for Hayden Hurst? I doubt he'd sign another one-year deal, but maybe 2 years and $12-14 million? He's a chain mover, and it would be nice to have a vet around after next season when Hunter Henry's contract is up.