Patriots trade for DeVante Parker
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Parker's a good WR. Not great. But good. Over the last 5 seasons per 17 games, he's 51 catches, 700 yards and 5 TDs per year.
I like that Rapsheet takes a shot at the Dolphins as if Parker hasn’t been able to stay on the field because of Miami’s coaching staff.
Trading him to a division rival should tell you just about everything, but I do fear the inevitable 200 yard Parker revenge game.
Trading him to a division rival should tell you just about everything, but I do fear the inevitable 200 yard Parker revenge game.
Good #3 receiver. Hopefully he can regain that 2019 success.
Wonder if Harry's days are numbered, although Parker is slightly smaller and doesn't block as well. He's a much better receiver and YACer than Harry.
Edit: Ugggh, hate giving up a 3rd. That;s not a late rounder.
I'd rather just trade a 5th/6th and not get anything back.
Wonder if Harry's days are numbered, although Parker is slightly smaller and doesn't block as well. He's a much better receiver and YACer than Harry.
Edit: Ugggh, hate giving up a 3rd. That;s not a late rounder.
I'd rather just trade a 5th/6th and not get anything back.
He's an okay WR coming to complement a stable of okay WRs. I guess Parker has the kind of body type and skillset they lack at the position, but it doesn't really move the needle for me. The compensation is low enough to make it a good move, I guess.
Yup, 100%. I've had him in a fantasy league since his rookie year so I've watched him pretty closely.
Pats get a 5th back, the third is a year out, and Parker is signed cheap next this year and next. What’s not to like?
Pats will still need picks in 2023. When you try and sign up for a 20 year run of success, you need picks every year.
If you have a replacement, I guess. Certainly, given the contract, that’s a pretty easy decision for the Pats to make. Unless you’re over the cap or have depth, I don’t understand the move, especially given the go for it now trade just made for Hill. Unless he asked out.
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If it's the JCJ comp I don't have problem. But I suspect that the Patriots own third-rounder in 2023 will be a much better pick than their usual draft slot
Ignoring the time value of the Pats 3rd being in 2023, the difference between Miami’s 5th and a mid-round 3rd (I’m using 80) is equivalent of pick 189 on the Rich Hill chart. Downgrade the value of the Pats 3rd rounder for being a year out and it’s pretty minimal comp.
Edit: sorry, that’s on the Johnson chart, not Rich Hill chart.
Edit: sorry, that’s on the Johnson chart, not Rich Hill chart.
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We get a solid receiver and draft capital THIS year in what is widely considered a deep draft. You discount the future pick by a round, typically, so this is Parker and a 5th for a 4th. You do that deal all day.
Yes, very obvious trade for the Pats. He’ll cost around 6 mil per year this year and next.
So they trade it and draft late in round like they're comfortable with.
I mean, basically this trade (if we count the JCJ pick as a free pick which it really aint, because we'd get to use it if we didn't deal it) is Parker and a 5th for moving back 15 slots or whatever in the 3rd round next year. I can live with that.
Cedric Wilson is replacing Parker. He was not only Miami’s WR4, he was also no longer a scheme fit.
Miami’s offense is going to be built around YAC, and the next yard after catch Parker gains will be his first.
The JCJ comp pick doesn’t exist yet, so definitely not that one. Still, see my above post. Unless you think the Pats are awful this year, it’s giving up the equivalent of about an early 6th rounder.
I'm anticipating what we would call an "awful" year for the Patriots, so that third rounder would have more value.
I don't believe in the discounting the future draft pick analysis on general principle. When the 2023 draft rolls around, and they don't have a third, I'll gain little solace from thinking that it was considered a fourth a year earlier.
This is a great trade for the Pats. Really excited to see what Parker can do in this offense and the risk is very small.
This is how I feel. It's not an overpay, given the terms of the deal. The 3rd rounder in 2023 is akin to a 4th this year. Parker is a good fit in this offense and cost-controlled.
It's a win-win deal for everyone.
And Miami will have 2 firsts, a second, and two thirds next year now. Unreal how much draft capital they have even after the Tyreke trade. Thanks a lot, SF and HOU…
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This was my reaction to it. Parker is a much better fit as an X than Agholor for this offense. However having both those guys let’s you unlock some route combinations because you have two vertical guys. Remember that double post (Dino) concept they ran week 2 against the Jets where Bourne beat his man initially but the corner was able to recover in time to defend the pass? That doesn’t happen with Parker - just need to make sure you don’t under throw it.
If they wanted to trade Agholor I think the Bucs and the Chiefs would be interested.
This was my reaction to it. Parker is a much better fit as an X than Agholor for this offense. However having both those guys let’s you unlock some route combinations because you have two vertical guys. Remember that double post (Dino) concept they ran week 2 against the Jets where Bourne beat his man initially but the corner was able to recover in time to defend the pass? That doesn’t happen with Parker - just need to make sure you don’t under throw it.
If they wanted to trade Agholor I think the Bucs and the Chiefs would be interested.
Assuming they keep Agholor they don’t have that WR1 but they’d have 4 guys who can all be average to quality starters.
I am also wondering if this means more 11. Parker, Meyers, Bourne/Agholor, and Henry is a nice foursome. Really solid. No one special at the top but your worst guy is still a completely viable option.
I am also wondering if this means more 11. Parker, Meyers, Bourne/Agholor, and Henry is a nice foursome. Really solid. No one special at the top but your worst guy is still a completely viable option.
What’s Parker’s with Odell if they (as rumors suggest) want to go that way? I would think that definitely would make Agholor redundant.
Parker is a nice addition to the WR corps. I don’t think for a second it alleviates the need for a WR1 in some fashion, but def helps the starting WR corps
Does it matter? Miami is a tire fire. They have played in 2 playoff games in the last 20 years. They lost both. Yes, you read that right, this team hasn't won a playoff game since the 2020 calendar year. The Patriots have won 6 super bowls since then. Nobody is worse, except for the Detroit Lions. They are the least successful team other than the Lions in the NFL.
The team has bad management and bad ownership and that results in a bad team.
All the draft capital doesn't matter when the team is run by morons, idiots, and buffoons.
I like the deal — I think it is pretty fair value for both teams. Parker on a cheap 2-year deal is a good get for the Pats and getting a future 3rd and only giving up a 5th is a nice get for Miami.
I have always liked his game — but have always felt like he was injury prone (looks like he has only missed 20 games in 7 seasons). Hopefully the QBs throwing to him have impacted his lack of a “leap”. Either way, he is definitely an upgrade for this WR corps and some really good added depth on the outside and in the red zone. I would think they plan to hang on to Agholor, have Bourne/Meyers be their inside guys, move Agholor around a bit, and have Parker be the pure outside threat — but others here would know better than I.
I have always liked his game — but have always felt like he was injury prone (looks like he has only missed 20 games in 7 seasons). Hopefully the QBs throwing to him have impacted his lack of a “leap”. Either way, he is definitely an upgrade for this WR corps and some really good added depth on the outside and in the red zone. I would think they plan to hang on to Agholor, have Bourne/Meyers be their inside guys, move Agholor around a bit, and have Parker be the pure outside threat — but others here would know better than I.
My view is definitely skewed from the last game of 2019 where Parker put up over 100 yards on Gilmore to send Brady to the Wild Card round, as such this seems worth kicking the tires on. Especially with Bill's record drafting WR and a reasonable contract in this FA Market
Parker is great. He's not some flash in the pan like Aghlahor. He's not a bust like Harry. He's got great hands and can win contested catches. He's legitimately talented. He's also been stuck on an awful team for years. This is a win for the Pats.
And the fact that Parker is off the Dolphins, who exchanged him for Hill, is a long term net negative for Miami. Hill is going to despise Miami and it's going to cause problems for the team. This is going to be fun.
The Cowboys have a couple of playoff wins in that span. The Cowboys suck too. They are failures. But Miami is a legitimate joke. They don't make the playoffs. If they randomly do, they lose. They pass up Justin Herbert and draft a terrible Tua instead. The owner offers the coach money for losses.
It is somehow a hidden secret that the Dolphins are absolutely miserable. They are a joke, they are the Lions.