Patriots select WR Tyquan Thornton

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No writeup on him from PFF. Any chance somebody can convince me he isn't a modern Chad Jackson or Bethel Johnson?
 

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View: https://twitter.com/FO_ASchatz/status/1520199516808429574

When we wrote up Playmaker Score, Tyquan Thornton had an estimated draft position of "UDFA."
View: https://twitter.com/MarkDanielsPJ/status/1520202800650723329

In @BobMcGinn's draft scout series, this is what a scout said about Tyquan Thornton: “He’s a big-play threat waiting to happen. He’s a better version of Darius Slayton or Will Fuller. What (Henry) Ruggs was. He’s got that caliber impact. But this guy can actually run routes.”
 

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If the pick had been Skyy Moore or Pickens, people would be thrilled and praising the Pats. I feel like it's pretty useless to complain - they could have had one of them and valued Thornton the most. The track record isn't spotless, but it's not horrible either and it feels foolish to me to think they don't know what they're doing.
 

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View: https://twitter.com/FO_ASchatz/status/1520199516808429574

When we wrote up Playmaker Score, Tyquan Thornton had an estimated draft position of "UDFA."
View: https://twitter.com/MarkDanielsPJ/status/1520202800650723329

In @BobMcGinn's draft scout series, this is what a scout said about Tyquan Thornton: “He’s a big-play threat waiting to happen. He’s a better version of Darius Slayton or Will Fuller. What (Henry) Ruggs was. He’s got that caliber impact. But this guy can actually run routes.”
I like that second tweet better.
 

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WR in the second round scares me since it's probably the one position I don't really trust BB on.

All the tweets seem solid, so why was he mocked later in the draft? What is be bad at, is he just thin?
 

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WR in the second round scares me since it's probably the one position I don't really trust BB on.

All the tweets seem solid, so why was he mocked later in the draft? What is be bad at, is he just thin?
I know there have been a number of analyses of this, but if memory serves one of the reasons the Steelers are known as great WR drafters is because they draft a lot of them. I also think a coach/GM with the wisdom to draft Givens and Edelman in the 7th round has to be at least somewhat competent.

Anyway, just by law of averages if the Pats draft enough 2nd round caliber WRs one of them is bound to be good. Here’s hoping it’s this guy!
 

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If anything they may be able to use a ton of play action with him especially when teams are stacking the box.
 

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I'm asking here, not criticizing. Everything I am seeing is good stuff. Burner, take the top off the defense. Good ball tracking, good at catching the ball in traffic. Good blocking. What am I missing that this guy wasn't on peoples boards? Is he only capable of going straight? Can he not run anything other than a go route? Is he too light for his frame? There has to be something that suppressed his value given his combine speed. Was he hanging out with Tyreek Hill on the wrong night or something?

Help me out here folks...
 

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WR in the second round scares me since it's probably the one position I don't really trust BB on.

All the tweets seem solid, so why was he mocked later in the draft? What is be bad at, is he just thin?
He mostly just doesn't draft them. Last 2nd rounder they drafted was 2013, Dobson, who was the 6th WR taken, he was depending how you grade it better as a rookie than either 3 or 4 of the 5 guys ahead of him...... then his leg fell off.
 

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I'm asking here, not criticizing. Everything I am seeing is good stuff. Burner, take the top off the defense. Good ball tracking, good at catching the ball in traffic. Good blocking. What am I missing that this guy wasn't on peoples boards? Is he only capable of going straight? Can he not run anything other than a go route? Is he too light for his frame? There has to be something that suppressed his value given his combine speed. Was he hanging out with Tyreek Hill on the wrong night or something?

Help me out here folks...
My very limited understanding is that there are questions on his route trees, minimal experience with good QB play, and very small hands. I dunno, I’m excited. Can’t teach speed and we saw what that can do to a team.
 

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I'm asking here, not criticizing. Everything I am seeing is good stuff. Burner, take the top off the defense. Good ball tracking, good at catching the ball in traffic. Good blocking. What am I missing that this guy wasn't on peoples boards? Is he only capable of going straight? Can he not run anything other than a go route? Is he too light for his frame? There has to be something that suppressed his value given his combine speed. Was he hanging out with Tyreek Hill on the wrong night or something?

Help me out here folks...
Very slim frame, small hands, some people worry about his ability to take hits and/or make contested catches.

On the other side Kyed among others says he's heard that multiple teams had him in the 2nd, and it's possible the Patriots snagged him from one of the teams that took WRs right after them:
View: https://twitter.com/DougKyed/status/1520202608232779777?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
 

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I'm asking here, not criticizing. Everything I am seeing is good stuff. Burner, take the top off the defense. Good ball tracking, good at catching the ball in traffic. Good blocking. What am I missing that this guy wasn't on peoples boards? Is he only capable of going straight? Can he not run anything other than a go route? Is he too light for his frame? There has to be something that suppressed his value given his combine speed. Was he hanging out with Tyreek Hill on the wrong night or something?

Help me out here folks...
Im just speculating but the combination of being hurt almost all 2020 and then being on a kind of crappy passing offense in 2021 might have caused him to fly under the radar a bit among draftniks.
 

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This is the stuff of nightmares for the entire NE fan base:

View: https://twitter.com/PP_Rich_Hill/status/1520221451160371202


"Rooting for Thornton, but dang getting mini-Harry over Brown/Deebo vibes.

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So the Patriots set off a run of WRs.

50th overall: Tyquan Thornton (Patriots)
52: George Pickens (Steelers)
53: Alex Pierce (Colts)
54: Skyy Moore (Chiefs)

You can bet that will make for regular comparisons for years to come."
 

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Will Fuller is probably his best comp. The list of WRs over 6'0 and under 190 lbs is incredibly small. I think I'd like the pick better if he was 5'10". That lean a frame seems like a recipe for injury prone career.
 

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Will Fuller is probably his best comp. The list of WRs over 6'0 and under 190 lbs is incredibly small. I think I'd like the pick better if he was 5'10". That lean a frame seems like a recipe for injury prone career.
Can it carry more weight?
 

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This is the stuff of nightmares for the entire NE fan base:

View: https://twitter.com/PP_Rich_Hill/status/1520221451160371202


"Rooting for Thornton, but dang getting mini-Harry over Brown/Deebo vibes.

@McKennAnalysis
· 1h
So the Patriots set off a run of WRs.

50th overall: Tyquan Thornton (Patriots)
52: George Pickens (Steelers)
53: Alex Pierce (Colts)
54: Skyy Moore (Chiefs)

You can bet that will make for regular comparisons for years to come."
This is like how in the grocery store there’s usually a faster line than yours. Sure, there will be comparisons, but no matter which of those four the Pats picked, the odds are he wouldn’t end up the best. Anyway I’m just happy they picked a guy who made me remember Tiquan Underwood.
 

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This is the stuff of nightmares for the entire NE fan base:

View: https://twitter.com/PP_Rich_Hill/status/1520221451160371202


"Rooting for Thornton, but dang getting mini-Harry over Brown/Deebo vibes.

@McKennAnalysis
· 1h
So the Patriots set off a run of WRs.

50th overall: Tyquan Thornton (Patriots)
52: George Pickens (Steelers)
53: Alex Pierce (Colts)
54: Skyy Moore (Chiefs)

You can bet that will make for regular comparisons for years to come."
He may ultimately be right but this is some lazy ass tweeting bullshit on Rich’s part. You could literally put those names in any order and say the same thing.
 

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He may ultimately be right but this is some lazy ass tweeting bullshit on Rich’s part. You could literally put those names in any order and say the same thing.
His whole feed is full of straight garbage, just "I'm mad Bill didn't take my binkie" tweets left and right.
 

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I preferred Pickens (out of the available guys) but you can’t teach 4.28

hopefullyhe’ll be a lot better than Bethel Johnson and Tony Simmons
 

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If the pick had been Skyy Moore or Pickens, people would be thrilled and praising the Pats. I feel like it's pretty useless to complain - they could have had one of them and valued Thornton the most. The track record isn't spotless, but it's not horrible either and it feels foolish to me to think they don't know what they're doing.
To be fair, the Pats' wide receiver track record is pretty damn shitty. But yes, none of us know anything. On that I agree.
 

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This is yet another example to me of them using a high pick to draft a receiver with a profile that's completely different from the type of guys who usually have success in their offense. Now, he presents a dimension their current WR corps lacks and I'm not going to pretend to be well versed enough in the player to say if he's better or worse than the guys who went immediately after him.
 

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This is like how in the grocery store there’s usually a faster line than yours. Sure, there will be comparisons, but no matter which of those four the Pats picked, the odds are he wouldn’t end up the best. Anyway I’m just happy they picked a guy who made me remember Tiquan Underwood.
Isn't the goal to find the best guy, though?

If the bar is, "Well, what can you do, you'll never get the best," then maybe that's why the Pats drafting of WR is always off.