Pat Patriot injured?

[E5 Yaz]

Michael DiRocco ESPN Staff Writer
Jets S Jamal Adams said Thursday afternoon that he was not trying to injure the Patriots mascot when he tackled him during the NFL Pro Bowl Skills Challenge on Wednesday. Adams said he was told the person inside the mascot costume was hospitalized on Thursday morning, but the NFL has not yet confirmed that information. Adams said the NFL is not happy with him because of the incident. "He [the mascot] was running around and everybody was booing him, so I said, ‘You know what? Let me go tackle him,' Adams said. "I didn't hit him that hard, man. All jokes aside, I didn't hit him that hard. I don't know what's really going on, but they did tell me he's in the hospital. My intention was never to hurt him. it was all about just a joke but I definitely want to check on him and make sure everything is good. At the end of the day we were out here just having fun and it wasn't nothing intentionally to try to hurt the guy."

 

[InstaFace]

Here's video:


NBC Sports says Pat Patriot "later got his revenge", but there's no specifying how, and I rather doubt it was the same guy who got sent to the hospital from the above shit.

Absurd. If a fan came up to a mascot he didn't like and broke a beer bottle over the guy's head, they'd arrest him, maybe press charges, and the mascot guy might sue him as well.

What's the difference between that and a person injuring a mascot by tackling him, when they're not both participating in a football game? "I was just playing, my intentions were good" doesn't seem like a solid affirmative defense. Unless it had all been discussed beforehand and agreed-to, I hope some personal injury attorney takes him to the cleaners.

 

[Mystic Merlin]

Sounds like he forgot he’s like a 220 pound brick shithouse.

I can relate to be sure.

 

[NickEsasky]

He fucking blindsided the guy.

 

[SMU_Sox]

Here's video:


What's the difference between that and a person injuring a mascot by tackling him, when they're not both participating in a football game? "I was just playing, my intentions were good" doesn't seem like a solid affirmative defense. Unless it had all been discussed beforehand and agreed-to, I hope some personal injury attorney takes him to the cleaners.

I thought it was funny but also mean-spirited. The guy in the mascot suit makes a lot less than Adams (that's being charitable). The mascot person also is not a football player. If this were a Washington player tackling Rowdy (Cowboys mascot) I would say the same thing. You are dishing out some pain to someone who makes maybe, MAYBE, 1/30th of what you make and who is most likely not an athlete. I think it's a dick move but get why the sports audience would love it. Admittedly I laughed at first too. Now if they planned it it's a different story. That's fine. But to level someone if they don't know it's coming? Nah that's not right.

 

[Dick Drago]

If it wasn’t pre-planned w the mascot, he should be arrested.

 

[The Social Chair]

That was bullying and assault.

 

[djbayko]

And he posted it. It definitely looks like a joke and not all that hard...but you can’t go around tackling unsuspecting people not hard. Really bad things can happen. Jesus.

 

[Red Averages]

It was basically a jump hug (he slowed down before it) into someone with a padded suit on. He clearly wasn't doing it maliciously and in his statement he said "My intention was never to hurt him. it was all about just a joke but I definitely want to check on him and make sure everything is good. At the end of the day we were out here just having fun and it wasn't nothing intentionally to try to hurt the guy."

Given the mascot is most likely fine, I think people are blowing this way out of proportion ("arrested"!!!!!)

 

[Over Guapo Grande]

He fucking blindsided the guy.

It wasn't a blindside... he wasn't moving parallel to the line of scrimmage when the hit occurred. The mascot had a chance to avoid it.

 

[PedroKsBambino]

Pat Patriot is going to the Super Bowl.

Jamal Adams gets to watch on TV.

Next....

 

[DJnVa]

If it wasn’t pre-planned w the mascot, he should be arrested.

Calm down Dick.

 

[InstaFace]

"all about just a joke", indeed. I hope you tell that to the guy who probably has internal bleeding from you crunching into his chest at full sprint and then driving him to the ground and landing on him with your 213lbs of muscle.

 

[Royal Reader]

And he posted it. It definitely looks like a joke and not all that hard...but you can’t go around tackling unsuspecting people not hard. Really bad things can happen. Jesus.

Still less when you're an NFL athlete and they're, y'know, not.

 

[DJnVa]

"all about just a joke", indeed. I hope you tell that to the guy who probably has internal bleeding from you crunching into his chest at full sprint and then driving him to the ground and landing on him with your 213lbs of muscle.

I don't really think it was full speed at all.

What's funny is that if he hit a QB like that it would be roughing the passer for landing on him with his body weight.

 

[NickEsasky]

It wasn't a blindside... he wasn't moving parallel to the line of scrimmage when the hit occurred. The mascot had a chance to avoid it.

The mascot turned at the last second as he was just about to get creamed. I am not saying Adams should be arrested or anything here, but getting hit by an NFL safety when you have no idea it's coming and can't brace yourself can definitely lead to an injury.

 

[drbretto]

I can't find it all of a sudden, but there was another angle showing the mascot tackling him back shortly afterwards, so it's not like the mascot is lying there with collapsed lungs or anything like it looks like when the clip ends there.

 

[djbayko]

Of course it wasn’t full speed. But it could easily be a head injury, a spine injury, a busted ankle. Who knows?

 

[BigSoxFan]

I was expecting like a modest bump and he full on landed on the guy. Jamal Adams is built like a tank and the mascot had no way of bracing himself. Clearly wasn't malicious and wasn't running full speed but, man, that looked like it hurt.

 

[kelpapa]

Here is the video of Adams getting pinned by the mascot. It could have been a different person in the suit.

 

[Mystic Merlin]

I was expecting like a modest bump and he full on landed on the guy. Jamal Adams is built like a tank and the mascot had no way of bracing himself. Clearly wasn't malicious and wasn't running full speed but, man, that looked like it hurt.

Yeah I think Adams forgets what it’s like to miss a step on the stairs you didn’t know was there. Your body can’t brace itself in time, plus he’s huge, strong, and moves faster than he realizes in the moment.

 

[Over Guapo Grande]

The mascot turned at the last second as he was just about to get creamed. I am not saying Adams should be arrested or anything here, but getting hit by an NFL safety when you have no idea it's coming and can't brace yourself can definitely lead to an injury.

sorry - I was riffing off of the discussion post Chief's game of what a blindside hit entailed... carry on.

 

[Red Averages]

Here is the video of Adams getting pinned by the mascot. It could have been a different person in the suit.

Arrest him!!!

 

[Ralphwiggum]

Professional football players built like trucks who get paid to tackle other very large human beings for a living probably should not, even in jest and at half speed, tackle a normal sized human being who is not expecting it. It’s crazy that he thought that doing that could be construed as a joke and never considered that the guy might get hurt.

 

[Red Averages]

Professional football players built like trucks who get paid to tackle other very large human beings for a living probably should not, even in jest and at half speed, tackle a normal sized human being who is not expecting it. It’s crazy that he thought that doing that could be construed as a joke and never considered that the guy might get hurt.

He didn't get hurt and seemed to have fun with it. See the other thread - the mascot got up and returned the favor later. Can we move on?

Surprised Harbaugh got a 4 year extension. Why do the Ravens continue to think he's a top coach?

 

[DJnVa]

Do you have link for him not being hurt? Because per PFT Adams said he had to go to hospital.

 

[Ralphwiggum]

He didn't get hurt and seemed to have fun with it. See the other thread - the mascot got up and returned the favor later. Can we move on?

I don’t think it matters whether he got hurt or not. It’s not a huge deal and yes we can move on, but I’m going to stand by my opinion that NFL safeties should shy away from tackling unsuspecting normal sized humans, even at half speed and in jest.

 

[Red Averages]

Do you have link for him not being hurt? Because per PFT Adams said he had to go to hospital.

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/sb53-buildup-pats-vs-rams.26046/page-5#post-3253771

 

[DourDoerr]

That's such an absurdist comedy - really a miracle of economy. A mascot with a single cartoon expression fixed on its face gets crushed (Adams jogs up to him but then appears to land on him with his weight), and that smile might be literally masking some real pain. Pat then turns over onto his stomach and stays like that. A theatrical gesture to comically convey pain or a reaction of real pain? To be fair, I can't tell if Adams asks the mascot if he's all right. At the same time as Pats' planting, another mascot turns to watch. This mascot also has a somewhat happy fixed expression which might be masking real horror - and/or the fear of being "next." I can't tell though if that same mascot then goes over to Pat to put on a show, playing up the comedy and validating the roars of approval. Finally, a woman in sunglasses comes over to take a picture of the fallen mascot while it's all high fives behind her.

It's such a curious video and incredibly rich for its brevity. Fellini and Bunuel would be proud.

-Edited for clarity

 

[Reggie's Racquet]

The Jets clearly think the Pro Bowl is wide open.

 

[DJnVa]

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/sb53-buildup-pats-vs-rams.26046/page-5#post-3253771

Doesn’t say if it’s different guy or he still had to go to hospital because of what happened.

 

[kelpapa]

Doesn’t say if it’s different guy or he still had to go to hospital because of what happened.

I think it was a joke:

 

[InstaFace]

Adams said. "I didn't hit him that hard, man. All jokes aside, I didn't hit him that hard. I don't know what's really going on, but they did tell me he's in the hospital. My intention was never to hurt him. it was all about just a joke but I definitely want to check on him and make sure everything is good.

Yeah, you know, all in good fun. If you're Alex from A Clockwork Orange.

If that's you paid to be Pat Patriot at fun fan-signing events and then someone puts you in the hospital "in good fun", and suddenly your back hurts all the time and you may or may not have internal bleeding and you have to take off from your main job, maybe for weeks, and since you can't pick up your kids from school they have to have a lot of things cancelled and/or stay home, and that vacation you have planned has to be cancelled, and you have lingering problems down the road... I'm sure you'd be amused by people mocking the notion that the guy who put you in the hospital should be arrested.

 

[Jimbodandy]

Where's the guy who's always interpreting the rules here for us? Pretty sure he would say that the mascot was not defenseless and that the contact was not initiated with the crown of the helmet.

 

[NickEsasky]

sorry - I was riffing off of the discussion post Chief's game of what a blindside hit entailed... carry on.

Ooops my bad.

 

[joe dokes]

Yeah, you know, all in good fun. If you're Alex from A Clockwork Orange.

If that's you paid to be Pat Patriot at fun fan-signing events and then someone puts you in the hospital "in good fun", and suddenly your back hurts all the time and you may or may not have internal bleeding and you have to take off from your main job, maybe for weeks, and since you can't pick up your kids from school they have to have a lot of things cancelled and/or stay home, and that vacation you have planned has to be cancelled, and you have lingering problems down the road... I'm sure you'd be amused by people mocking the notion that the guy who put you in the hospital should be arrested.

On the bright side, there might be a temporary job opening for a furloughed fed. What better gig for a patriot?

 

[mauf]

Broke two discussions of the same subject out of unrelated threads and combined those discussions in this thread.

 

[YTF]

On the bright side, there might be a temporary job opening for a furloughed fed. What better gig for a great,great patriot?

FTFY. I can't help but wonder how good one's peripheral vision is in one of those mascot suits.

 

[lexrageorge]

It was a bush league move that went beyond just having fun. There's no need to send a guy to the hospital, and I don't understand why some people think it's funny that the mascot ended up in the hospital.

 

[jacklamabe65]

That's assault, pure and simple.

 

[Harry Hooper]

For all we know, he may have crushed the person's windpipe or something. The mascot's head and the person's head are not necessarily in the same spot.

 

[kelpapa]

Yeah, you know, all in good fun. If you're Alex from A Clockwork Orange.

If that's you paid to be Pat Patriot at fun fan-signing events and then someone puts you in the hospital "in good fun", and suddenly your back hurts all the time and you may or may not have internal bleeding and you have to take off from your main job, maybe for weeks, and since you can't pick up your kids from school they have to have a lot of things cancelled and/or stay home, and that vacation you have planned has to be cancelled, and you have lingering problems down the road... I'm sure you'd be amused by people mocking the notion that the guy who put you in the hospital should be arrested.

I was referring to the fact that I have only seen Adams say he was in the hospital, and Adams looks like he was joking in that video. Has it been reported by anyone else?

 

[InstaFace]

This Pats fan site seems to think Adams was exaggerating for effect about the hospital thing. Who the hell knows at this point, doesn't appear to be any official statement about it.

 

[Marciano490]

That's assault, pure and simple.

 

[luckiestman]

 

[YTF]

This Pats fan site seems to think Adams was exaggerating for effect about the hospital thing. Who the hell knows at this point, doesn't appear to be any official statement about it.

I'll go out on a limb and say that head doesn't weigh 30 lbs.

 

[reggiecleveland]

YEars ago in a rival high school basketball game the the mascots got onto play fighting. One team had a girl in the costume and the other team a guy. The guy went too far and won every play fight even hold the other mascot down, put it in a head lock etc to big cheers from his team. It is pretty possible he didn't know it was a girl. Anyway the same two teams met in the city final and the school replaced the girl with the 190lb wrestling champ and things went much differently.

 

[DJnVa]

I'll go out on a limb and say that head doesn't weigh 30 lbs.

Yeah, the entire get up for mascots might weigh that, but outside of the head, the one for Pat Patriot does appear too involved. I think he did some googling and got it wrong.

 

[JokersWildJIMED]

Adams attitude and empathy reminds me of Tommy after shooting Spider.

 

[Van Everyman]

YEars ago in a rival high school basketball game the the mascots got onto play fighting. One team had a girl in the costume and the other team a guy. The guy went too far and won every play fight even hold the other mascot down, put it in a head lock etc to big cheers from his team. It is pretty possible he didn't know it was a girl. Anyway the same two teams met in the city final and the school replaced the girl with the 190lb wrestling champ and things went much differently.

So what you’re saying is that the Patriots need to put James Devlin in that suit.