Pacquiao vs. Mayweather 5/2: Better late than never!
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Marciano490 said:
As a semi-boxing fan, why do you say this? I've watched enough boxing over the last 10-15 years, I generally don't buy pay per views (mostly because they end up sucking) but watch a lot of the "free" HBO / Showtime / NBC (lately) fights. The sport is extremely inaccessible. You need to buy a premium channel or pay for PPV in order to watch most of the fights. There's a huge lack of stars and the boxers and their promoters can arrange who they fight and when.
Unless the boxing bodies unify, remove the power from the promoters and force rankings and matchups, I just don't see how boxing makes it. It's on the ropes (get it?) as it is, but the fact the Mayweather can avoid him for 5 years, then fight him for $500 million is everything that's wrong with the sport.
Imagine if the Patriots won the AFC and the Seahawks won the NFC and the Pats said, nah we'd rather not, we'll face the Bucs instead. As a huge NFL fan, i wouldn't pay $100 to watch the Super Bowl most years unless there was a real draw, nevermind a fight. I struggle paying the $100 a year for Redzone.
In spirit of earlier posts, id' rather watch this round on youtube repeatedly than watch the fight from Saturday once:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71tRlcy5Nbo
For starters, boxing is now on NBC with very good cards. For the past year-plus there have been very good match ups at least once a month. Prov-Maidana was a very good fight last month. Canelo-Kirkland has fight of the year potential this weekend. We've had two entertaining heavyweight title fights in the last 5 months. The systemic problems remain, but as long as good fights are being made, I'm happy.
Apparently Manny checked NO when asked on a prefight questionnaire if he had any injuries.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/boxing/32594782
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/boxing/32594782
Just saw on CBS (AKA The corporate owner of Showtime) that Floyd is open to waiting on Manny to rehab his shoulder and have a rematch. Since he doesn't have a great potential final match-up pending, and the delay would allow the fight to take place in the new MGM Arena, I'd say a rematch has potential.
Fight #2 ends the same way fight #1 ends.
No way it draws anywhere near as much interest or money.
No way it draws anywhere near as much interest or money.
Kenny F'ing Powers said:
Yeah - Manny would need to go knock the hell out of a top fighter in the interim to get interest up again. He hasn't had power at this weight and didn't show himself capable of landing successive punches on Floyd. He landed a couple clean shots and if his argument is that he had to pull his punches due to shoulder pain, I'd maybe buy that if I see him put someone a little tougher than Algieri on the canvas. Otherwise, if the shoulder was limiting his punch input, he should've postponed the fight; there was no way he could win throwing fewer punches and he and Roach are smart enough to know that.
Marciano490 said:
He wanted the $80+ million and there's no way to know if Mayweather would have agreed to postpone.
Perhaps...the Mayweather camp knew about the shoulder, and in order for Pacquiao not to back out so they'd both get paid, Mayweather agreed to talk rematch.
DrewDawg said:
I saw an article yesterday saying Mayweather had a "mole" in Pacquiao's camp, which wouldn't be surprising. Manny doesn't close down his sparring sessions like Floyd does and apparently even Filipino journalists were speculating about an injury due to Manny's sparring or lack thereof.
Clearly, a rematch would not top the gross of the original due to the aesthetic dud that fight was; but we could have said the same thing when Mayweather-Oscar II was agreed on. That Floyd doesn't anyone as marketable to fight between 147-154 as Manny gives a rematch a chance. That said, I can't imagine it being any better.
So I know nothing about boxing but heard something about 2 guys who went to the fight who are suing Manny because of the injury thing. So my ignorant question is what about the people who bought it on ppv? Is there a theoretical lawsuit for them? I mean I guess there's a theoretical lawsuit about anything. but is there a snowball's chance of it going anywhere? And could this wind up being a big mess?
Manny Pacquiao Is Facing a $5 Million Class-Action Lawsuit.
The lawsuit, filed by Stephane Vanel and Kami Rahbaran, “on behalf of all persons who purchased tickets; purchased the pay per view event or who wagered money on the event,” claims damages for those who “were victimized by [the] Defendants’ failure to disclose and to cover up the injuries of Defendant Pacquiao.”
The lawsuit, filed by Stephane Vanel and Kami Rahbaran, “on behalf of all persons who purchased tickets; purchased the pay per view event or who wagered money on the event,” claims damages for those who “were victimized by [the] Defendants’ failure to disclose and to cover up the injuries of Defendant Pacquiao.”
If you pay money for a sporting event involving two men in their late 30s and expect them to be 100% - or any athlete that age to compete at 100% - then you deserve to lose your cash.
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My question is, if Pacquiao had withdrawn from or postponed the fight due to his injuries, how many more people would have sued him?
DrewDawg said:
Have we actually seen what the injury was? Like medical records, or is it him just still saying he tore an RC? Because I promise you anyone who ever boxed or bench pressed has a 'torn' RC.
In news that will surprise nobody who has followed Mayweather even a little bit.....
he now says no rematch.
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12843122/floyd-mayweather-changes-mind-says-not-grant-manny-pacquiao-rematch
he now says no rematch.
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12843122/floyd-mayweather-changes-mind-says-not-grant-manny-pacquiao-rematch
There's no way Floyd doesn't go for 50-0. We'll see what happens. There are some younger fighters around 147 that could probably take him down in a year or two, so I think he'd want out before Crawford, Thurman or Andrade ripen.
It's CYA.Cellar-Door said:
The rematch talk indicated he knew he wasn't full strength and was willing to give him another "fair" shot.
The no rematch talk implies Floyd thinks Manny was fine and the injury stuff pre-fight was BS.
He didn't change his tune until lawsuits were filed.
Saw the rematch last night. Floyd looks great and made Pac look like an average fighter who couldn't muster any offense. That straight right musta tasted awful.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2514595-floyd-mayweather-likely-to-be-stripped-of-wbo-147-pound-title-belt
Talk of stripping Mayweather of his title...Shouldn't this stuff be sorted out and established prior to the fight? Any money owed should be done up front or come from the purse or wherever and not his checkbook. And how is it his decision to keep the title?
Talk of stripping Mayweather of his title...Shouldn't this stuff be sorted out and established prior to the fight? Any money owed should be done up front or come from the purse or wherever and not his checkbook. And how is it his decision to keep the title?